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Curly Bill
5/8/2008, 02:23 PM
Period in history 1378-1417 when there were two Popes of the Catholic Church; one residing in Rome, the traditional seat of the Church, and the other in Avignon, France.

frankensooner
5/8/2008, 02:29 PM
Oh, I thought you were talking about something else.


:D

Curly Bill
5/8/2008, 02:37 PM
Consider this the history lesson of the day...

...not that I'm trying to steal Homey's thunder. ;)

SoonerProphet
5/8/2008, 02:52 PM
What about the Latin Christendom and Greek Christendom schism?

stoopified
5/8/2008, 04:07 PM
I thought we were talking OU/UT.

Curly Bill
5/9/2008, 01:09 AM
What about the Latin Christendom and Greek Christendom schism?

When the Bishop/Pope of Rome claimed supremacy over the entire Church because of St. Peter's founding of the Church there, and the Bishop/Patriarch of Constantinople kindly disagreed...so the Eastern and Western Churches pretty much went their own way, and do so to this day.

This too is called the Great Schism, just as the dual Papacy is.

SoonerJack
5/9/2008, 07:56 AM
so one might say there was a Schism Schism.

TexasLidig8r
5/9/2008, 08:18 AM
Didn't Pope Clement V, in fact, move the papacy to Avignon? Under the auspices of the then King of France, Phillip IV, he authorized the suppression arrest, and torture of the Knights Templar in October 1307.

Okla-homey
5/9/2008, 08:23 AM
don't forget the Baptist and Methodist schisms.

They occurred in the 1850's in the US when the Baptist denomination split over the issue of human chattel slavery. Northern Baptists were abolition-friendly which the southern members of the denomination found reprehensible.

Today's Southern Baptist Convention resulted from the pro-slavery folks jumping ship and setting up their own branch.

Same dealio with Methodists. The Southern Methodist (a/k/a Methodist Episcopal Church, South) denomination resulted precisely the same way.

SoonerProphet
5/9/2008, 08:38 AM
Didn't Pope Clement V, in fact, move the papacy to Avignon? Under the auspices of the then King of France, Phillip IV, he authorized the suppression arrest, and torture of the Knights Templar in October 1307.

The Babylonian Captivity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avignon_Papacy

LoyalFan
5/10/2008, 12:39 AM
So, with this thread, we've set out on the Old Schism Trail.

GottaHavePride
5/10/2008, 12:45 AM
So, with this thread, we've set out on the Old Schism Trail.

OLEVET has died of dysentery.




Lol ;)