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John Kochtoston
4/9/2008, 07:10 PM
Despite playing like crispy crap for most of the game, the Rangers have found themselves up 1-0 early in the second. This series is going to be a war.

GrapevineSooner
4/9/2008, 07:23 PM
I think that series and the Calgary-San Jose series, and the Stars-Ducks have the best potential of going the full 7.

BTW, I'd like to thank Sportsradio 1310 The Ticket for providing me some sweet Platinum Level seats to Game 3 of the Ducks-Stars series. :D

John Kochtoston
4/9/2008, 07:27 PM
1-1 now. The Rangers had a few minutes of excellence, but a ****-poor PK changed all of that.

I think all of the East series are roughly 6-5 and pick 'em. I can honestly make an argument for and against every team in that bracket. I agree on Stars-Ducks, but I think SJ should handle Calgary.

John Kochtoston
4/9/2008, 09:20 PM
Nice stretch in the mid-3d by the good guys to get a big win. Pretty even game, all told, but the Rangers got the breaks when Jersey didn't.

mynameisjoe
4/9/2008, 09:22 PM
Since my team didn't make the playoffs (for the 3rd effing year in a row:( ) I'm jumping on the Stars bandwagon.

GrapevineSooner
4/9/2008, 09:49 PM
Since my team didn't make the playoffs (for the 3rd effing year in a row:( ) I'm jumping on the Stars bandwagon.

St. Louis?

mynameisjoe
4/10/2008, 03:22 PM
St. Louis?

Nope, the Leafs. Btw, nice profile pic YNWA

GrapevineSooner
4/10/2008, 05:14 PM
My condolences. ;)

But welcome aboard the Stars bandwagon. :D

colleyvillesooner
4/11/2008, 06:00 AM
Yes, welcome.

Great win last night.

Avatar will be put up Monday after the Masters.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1719/thmarsavviejr6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Scott D
4/11/2008, 01:14 PM
the avatar thing really didn't work out well for you last year, you sure you want to do this to yourself again? ;)

colleyvillesooner
4/11/2008, 02:26 PM
naw, see, it's a different avatar.

prolly won't now though. dick :mad:

:D

r5TPsooner
4/11/2008, 03:14 PM
Should be a good playoff year for the NHL.

GrapevineSooner
4/11/2008, 05:21 PM
Well, I think I say one thing's for certain in this series.

If it becomes a special teams battle, give me the Stars in 5 or even a sweep. Though it's hard to imagine the Ducks playing any dumber than they did last night.

colleyvillesooner
4/15/2008, 08:46 PM
Well, they don't need my avatar to start sucking balls.

4-0 Ducks with 13:00 remaining in 2nd.

Prediction? 6-1 Ducks.

Ugh.

GrapevineSooner
4/16/2008, 04:12 PM
I'll take the blame for last night's loss. :D :(

The last 9 times I've attended a Rangers or Stars game, this is the record for each team:

Rangers: 0-7
Stars: 0-2

Not to mention, I've been to three Stars playoff games in my life after last night.

They've lost every one of them.

Fortunately, I have no plans to attend any more Stars games. :D

colleyvillesooner
4/16/2008, 04:28 PM
Hmmm...I think I can help.

****ING STOP GOING TO THE ****ING GAMES!!!!!!!

mfosterftw
4/16/2008, 05:21 PM
Playoffs? PLAYOFFS?!???

[/Mora]

Unfortunately for me (or maybe not), the team I'm following these days is waiting for the arrival of Stamkos. While Stamkos is solid, I'd rather have next year's #1 pick.

GrapevineSooner
4/16/2008, 11:24 PM
Rags push the Devils to the brink of elimination, Detroit's going through their annual first round fight after Nashville won, and the Pens are moving onto the second round after dispatching the Sens in a sweep.

colleyvillesooner
4/17/2008, 09:46 PM
Now that's a better game Marty.

3-1 Stars. Score and series.

Frozen Sooner
4/17/2008, 10:03 PM
Despite playing like crispy crap for most of the game, the Rangers have found themselves up 1-0 early in the second. This series is going to be a war.

If by "war" you mean "Scottie Gomez ****ing **** up" then I agree.

SoonerStormchaser
4/17/2008, 10:21 PM
GO BRUINS!!!

5-1 OVER THOSE GODDAMN MOTHER****ING HABS!!!!!

SoonerStormchaser
4/19/2008, 08:05 PM
Game 6 of Bruins vs. POS Habs

The zebras are definitely NOT helping the Bruins...4 non-calls and counting after 2.

bri
4/19/2008, 11:15 PM
Now that's a better game Marty.

3-1 Stars. Score and series.

I really want to get excited about the Stars, but I know better than to count on the playoff fortitude of Marty Turco. :D

GrapevineSooner
4/19/2008, 11:50 PM
If he shuts 'em out tomorrow, will you jump on the bandwagon? ;)

Seriously, Turco's the least of my worries after posting three shutouts last season, one this season, with another in spirit (giving up a goal with 7.8 seconds left in Game 4). I have a feeling he'll be coming up big tomorrow night, the Stars power play will finally get back on track, and the Ducks will be setting tee times for late Monday after they fly back home.

bri
4/20/2008, 12:16 AM
You shut your whore mouth with that "bandwagon" crap. Yeah, I bandwagoned into rooting for the Mavs, but I suffered through all the crappy "oh, so close" seasons before the Stars finally won the Cup. :D

colleyvillesooner
4/20/2008, 09:51 AM
well, 2 more tries at the series.

SoonerStormchaser
4/20/2008, 12:20 PM
BOSTON FORCED GAME 7 WITH THOSE ****ERS FROM MONTREAL!!!

(p.s. GO STARS!!!)

colleyvillesooner
4/20/2008, 12:25 PM
Love me some game 7 playoff hockey. Nothing like it...

Well, except overtime game 7 playoff hockey.

SoonerStormchaser
4/20/2008, 08:29 PM
Stars/Ducks game 6 is on right now.
It's DUCK SEASON! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=bqEsfL-gaEs)

SoonerStormchaser
4/20/2008, 10:37 PM
STARS WIN!!!!!!!!!

GrapevineSooner
4/20/2008, 11:42 PM
Stephane Robidas is the Timex Man.

Takes a lickin' but keeps on tickin'

mynameisjoe
4/21/2008, 12:30 AM
I was at Game 6 tonight, and man was that fun! Paid 35 bucks for a nosebleed seat, but it was well worth it. And out of habit I yelled at this poor woman wearing a Montreal jersey.

Scott D
4/21/2008, 05:18 AM
heh I'm sure Bertuzzi and Schneider are enjoying their overpriced contracts to start golfing after one round, while the team that doesn't need them anymore is moving on.

colleyvillesooner
4/21/2008, 09:13 AM
Awesome win.

John Kochtoston
4/21/2008, 03:31 PM
If by "war" you mean "Scottie Gomez ****ing **** up" then I agree.

Between that and the Devils deciding that, instead of the winning the final two games of the series, they just wanted to cheap-shot Sean Avery for 120 minutes, yeah, not the seven-gamer I anticipated. Which is fine by me. :D

SoonerStormchaser
4/21/2008, 06:29 PM
I swear to God...Montreal fans are the WORST in the NHL.
-Every time an opposing player has the puck, a loud "Boo" erupts from the crowd.
-Every time an opposing player is seriously hurt...they cheer like they've just won the Cup.

Kinda fitting though that this board is situated right behind their goal:
https://www.pfizerpro.com/images/viagra_logo.jpg

Impotent Canucks!

Frozen Sooner
4/21/2008, 06:33 PM
Between that and the Devils deciding that, instead of the winning the final two games of the series, they just wanted to cheap-shot Sean Avery for 120 minutes, yeah, not the seven-gamer I anticipated. Which is fine by me. :D

I truly think that New Jersey letting Gomez go may be one of the dumbest free agency moves of all time.

You've got a young charismatic player who instantly makes everyone on his line better by ten-fifteen goals a year and you let him go across the Hudson?

I like Scott, by the way. The couple of times I've met him he's been extremely nice. In fact, he bought the entire bar a round because a guy there was having his bachelor party and he wanted to congratulate him.

Big Red Ron
4/21/2008, 10:00 PM
Should be a good playoff year for the NHL.Yeah, I hope both of you enjoy it. ;)

John Kochtoston
4/21/2008, 10:11 PM
I truly think that New Jersey letting Gomez go may be one of the dumbest free agency moves of all time.

You've got a young charismatic player who instantly makes everyone on his line better by ten-fifteen goals a year and you let him go across the Hudson?

I like Scott, by the way. The couple of times I've met him he's been extremely nice. In fact, he bought the entire bar a round because a guy there was having his bachelor party and he wanted to congratulate him.

Yeah, I think Lamorillo forgot about the salary cap and realized the Rangers can't just throw money at players any more (which has made them infinitely better.) The Devils could and should have found room to resign him, unless they're admitting their run is over, and their saving room to sign rookies.

mynameisjoe
4/22/2008, 04:05 PM
I swear to God...Montreal fans are the WORST in the NHL.
-Every time an opposing player has the puck, a loud "Boo" erupts from the crowd.
-Every time an opposing player is seriously hurt...they cheer like they've just won the Cup.

Kinda fitting though that this board is situated right behind their goal:
https://www.pfizerpro.com/images/viagra_logo.jpg

Impotent Quebecois!

Funny story about Montreal fans. I went to a Leafs-Canadiens game at the old Montreal Forum and had beer poured on me because I was wearing a Leafs jersey. This wouldn't be all that terrible, except I was 8 at the time.

PS: Fixed the last part of your post for ya. :)

Scott D
4/22/2008, 05:58 PM
Yeah, I think Lamorillo forgot about the salary cap and realized the Rangers can't just throw money at players any more (which has made them infinitely better.) The Devils could and should have found room to resign him, unless they're admitting their run is over, and their saving room to sign rookies.

the devils problem was they signed silly contracts for guys like Alex Mogilny and Patrice Brisboise in the couple of years before the cap was in place. Not to mention the money they needed to keep Elias and Langenbrunner around. The end result is losing out on both Scott Gomez to the Rangers and Brian Rafalski to the Red Wings. Both of those players are moving on, and the devils have continued to slide backwards ever since the retirement of Scott Stevens.

Basically the rest of the NHL has been forced to play the way that Lou has for years, and he hasn't been able to adjust so far to keep up.

GrapevineSooner
4/29/2008, 03:23 PM
There has to be more interest in the Stanley Cup Playoffs than this. ;)

I mean, whatwith the Stars giving us something to believe. :D

colleyvillesooner
4/29/2008, 03:26 PM
I was able to catch most of Game 2 in Chicago. Looks great coming back home. Really having to hold back from getting really worked up about this team. If we go up 3-0....

colleyvillesooner
4/29/2008, 10:08 PM
BOOM!!!

3-0 lead headed to game four tomorrow night. Finish it up boys!

bri
4/29/2008, 10:11 PM
I'm starting to allow myself brief flashes of excitement over the Stars, but I'm tempering it by constantly reminding myself what happened the last time a Dallas team I was pulling for had an "insurmountable" series lead. :D

colleyvillesooner
4/29/2008, 10:19 PM
Di. tto.

SteelCitySooner
5/1/2008, 09:51 AM
It's been a real lopsided round so far all around. All series 3-0 or 3-1 as it stands right now. I'd love to see a Pens sweep tonight against the Rags but it's going to be tough.

colleyvillesooner
5/1/2008, 10:52 AM
Just a twinge of worry...

Scott D
5/1/2008, 11:56 AM
ironic that they lose after you start to pay attention to them in more than a cursory manner ;)

GrapevineSooner
5/1/2008, 12:21 PM
Set Stars to ignore, CVS, and they'll be fine. :D

colleyvillesooner
5/1/2008, 02:08 PM
Nah, I've watched intently every game since the playoffs started. I do have the most posts in this thread you know. ;)

Scott D
5/1/2008, 02:15 PM
Well in that case, I'll enjoy seeing you in the next round. Unless you guys decide to go all 75 Penguins ;)

colleyvillesooner
5/1/2008, 11:00 PM
Dear teams in elimination games,

This is how you mail it in.

Sincerely,

Colorado Avalanche


7-1 Det after 2. For ****s sake...at home no less.

Scott D
5/1/2008, 11:03 PM
Dear teams in elimination games,

This is how you mail it in.

Sincerely,

Colorado Avalanche


7-1 Det after 2. For ****s sake...

nah, this is how you pwn a team coached by the worst coach to ever coach teams with talent...one Joel Quenville. He'd find a way to lose a 7 game series with the roster from the 1987 Canada team from the Canada Cup (now the World Cup)

colleyvillesooner
5/1/2008, 11:06 PM
I was hoping we would have drawn them this round.

Hopefully we'll play as good tommorrow in San Jose as we have in the past.

Scott D
5/1/2008, 11:08 PM
God I wish we'd hang another 5 goals in the last 14 minutes of this game

colleyvillesooner
5/1/2008, 11:20 PM
Aww, look at their cute little fans going crazy cause they cut it to 8-2.

6 more and we tie this bad boy up!

Scott D
5/1/2008, 11:26 PM
I'll give em credit, their cute little fans aren't as clueless or dumb as hell like nashville fans.

nashville fan would be doing their little <goalie name, goalie name> YOU SUCK! chant after scoring to be down 8-2.

GrapevineSooner
5/2/2008, 08:49 AM
I'll give em credit, their cute little fans aren't as clueless or dumb as hell like nashville fans.

nashville fan would be doing their little <goalie name, goalie name> YOU SUCK! chant after scoring to be down 8-2.

All 20 of them? ;)

SteelCitySooner
5/2/2008, 09:33 AM
Unfortunately the Pens lost, but giving credit, Lundqvist played a brilliant game last night. Fluery played very well for the Pens also. Crosby looked lackluster..Not sure what was up with him last night. Malkin's penatly shot was just ugly.

But good news, I got tickets to the 5th game on Sunday! w00t! Hopefully we close the series out then.

Fugue
5/2/2008, 11:15 AM
Zetterberg had one of the coolest goals I've seen in a long time. That backhanded dealio was impressive.

r5TPsooner
5/2/2008, 11:58 AM
Go Flyers

SoonerStormchaser
5/2/2008, 11:37 PM
Once again, the refs SCREW Dallas out of another game. Someone tell them to review just what constitutes "distinct kicking motion." ****ers!

colleyvillesooner
5/2/2008, 11:49 PM
Yeah, that was a tough one to swallow. Not feeling good about this OT...

SoonerStormchaser
5/2/2008, 11:50 PM
MOTHER ****ING SHARKS!!! DIE!!!!

colleyvillesooner
5/2/2008, 11:50 PM
See...

Mother ****er...another Dallas team choking the ****ing lead away.

I need to ****ing move...

SoonerStormchaser
5/2/2008, 11:52 PM
Seriously...the refs have been PATHETIC this entire series. Dallas is taking penalties at a 2-1 margin vs. the Sharks...and San Jose is just as guilty. This ****ing "kicking motion" no goal was abysmal!

colleyvillesooner
5/2/2008, 11:58 PM
there Is no way that was a "distinct kicking motion".

NO. WAY.

SoonerStormchaser
5/3/2008, 12:00 AM
I just reviewed the no-goal footage...they got that so wrong, even the Oregon refs would've called it a goal!
I hope Tippet places a few calls to Toronto.

colleyvillesooner
5/3/2008, 12:10 AM
NHL has egg on their face after that reversal call. Dude in the booth smiling during the reversal ****ed me of a little.

Still should have won up 2 with 15 to go.

Oh well, onto Game 6.

GrapevineSooner
5/3/2008, 12:12 AM
The Stars had a 2-0 third period lead and ****ed it away. As such, I'm not even going to begin to blame the loss on the overturned goal.

That having been said, Morrow got "Oregoned" on that goal it's not even funny. There's absolutely no justification for the NHL to overturn that call.

None.

And whichever idiot overturned it in Toronto needs to be shown the door on Monday morning.

After the Stars end this series on Sunday night.

colleyvillesooner
5/3/2008, 12:19 AM
Ditto. Not why we lost, but an unbelievably bad call.

colleyvillesooner
5/3/2008, 12:40 AM
ESPN just did the highlights of the game and not one mention of the reversed goal.

Scott D
5/3/2008, 12:42 AM
Honestly, it was a call that could have gone either way. But, I guess in terms of being screwed, I'm sure Buffalo fan looks at it as karma in regards to Hull's goal in 99 ;)

colleyvillesooner
5/3/2008, 01:00 AM
wow, that wasn't a predictable response. ;)

Scott D
5/3/2008, 08:47 AM
eh, personally I thought it could have gone either way and both arguments were valid. To me it was a goal, but since I'm not in the 'war room' in To-ron-to it isn't my call. Personally I think the end result of that game sucks, because I'd rather not have more than 5 or so days off. :P

colleyvillesooner
5/3/2008, 09:21 AM
I bet your hockey team of choice is just fine with it. :)

SteelCitySooner
5/3/2008, 12:59 PM
Although the no goal was BS, Stars need to pick it up. Not to jump too far ahead but I want to see a Pens vs. Stars Stanley Cup match.

Scott D
5/3/2008, 01:21 PM
I bet your hockey team of choice is just fine with it. :)

ironically they'd rather start the next round in the next couple of days. It's not like there are a lot of injuries that they need to heal up from :)

colleyvillesooner
5/3/2008, 04:26 PM
Aww, the rust factor.

GrapevineSooner
5/3/2008, 10:58 PM
Honestly, it was a call that could have gone either way. But, I guess in terms of being screwed, I'm sure Buffalo fan looks at it as karma in regards to Hull's goal in 99 ;)

Don't get me started. :D

That's because Buffalo fan can't read a rulebook. Specifically, the section that relates to puck possession and how back then, you could enter the crease ahead of the puck IF you established possession first.

Which Hull did.

Twice.

First, when he deflected Jere Lehtinen's shot from the half boards that Hasek never could get a handle on.

And for good measure, I think kicking the puck to your stick to put in a better shooting position also qualifies as establishing possession.

Anyway...

Time to take the Sharks out tomorrow.

bri
5/4/2008, 12:28 AM
I'm starting to allow myself brief flashes of excitement over the Stars, but I'm tempering it by constantly reminding myself what happened the last time a Dallas team I was pulling for had an "insurmountable" series lead. :D

Gah.

I WAS JUST KIDDING, FOR F*CK'S SAKE! STOP CHOKING!!

Also, why the hell would anyone root for Buffalo in anything? I mean, besides the obvious savings from never having to buy championship t-shirts and caps? :D

Scott D
5/4/2008, 09:44 AM
Don't get me started. :D

That's because Buffalo fan can't read a rulebook. Specifically, the section that relates to puck possession and how back then, you could enter the crease ahead of the puck IF you established possession first.

Which Hull did.

Twice.

First, when he deflected Jere Lehtinen's shot from the half boards that Hasek never could get a handle on.

And for good measure, I think kicking the puck to your stick to put in a better shooting position also qualifies as establishing possession.

Anyway...

Time to take the Sharks out tomorrow.

heh my thoughts when Hull scored were "Thank god this is over" :) And I think honestly, Buffalo fan's anger was like Raider fan's anger over the 'tuck rule' in regards to that play. It was one of those obscure instances that you never see and it comes out in a rare time that can be considered to cost their team the game. It was more a definition of the NHL poorly explaining the crease rule beforehand, and because of that they took a massive PR hit on it.

Ironically, in the time the two spent together here, Hull and Hasek never discussed that game or that goal.

Scott D
5/4/2008, 09:45 AM
Gah.

I WAS JUST KIDDING, FOR F*CK'S SAKE! STOP CHOKING!!

Also, why the hell would anyone root for Buffalo in anything? I mean, besides the obvious savings from never having to buy championship t-shirts and caps? :D

even New York State needs their version of an Aggy ;)

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 10:25 AM
heh

bri
5/4/2008, 10:57 AM
even New York State needs their version of an Aggy ;)

That's why they have the Mets. Buffalo is more like Waco, only with way fewer sensational deaths. :D

mynameisjoe
5/4/2008, 11:23 AM
Stars need to come out tonight firing on all cylinders. Perhaps the disallowed goals will **** them off enough to motivate them. If they lose, I don't see them winning Game 7.

tulsaoilerfan
5/4/2008, 03:05 PM
Don't get me started. :D

That's because Buffalo fan can't read a rulebook. Specifically, the section that relates to puck possession and how back then, you could enter the crease ahead of the puck IF you established possession first.

Which Hull did.

Twice.

First, when he deflected Jere Lehtinen's shot from the half boards that Hasek never could get a handle on.

And for good measure, I think kicking the puck to your stick to put in a better shooting position also qualifies as establishing possession.

Anyway...

Time to take the Sharks out tomorrow.

If Hasek hadn't been flopping on the ice like he always does, he might have stopped Hull from scoring and that game could still be going on.

bri
5/4/2008, 07:12 PM
Hasek looked like he was trying to make epileptic ice babies with the rink.

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 08:37 PM
Some serious hitting going on in this first period.

San Jose had the best penalty of the series saving a easy tap in goal by Dallas.

0-0 5:44 1st

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 09:00 PM
w00000t!! Pens moving on to the Eastern Conf. Finals!!

Now just need Stars to wrap this one up.

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 09:19 PM
Nice. Miettinen scores to make it 1-0 Stars.

nice to see something than a gigantic "Meh" from him.

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 09:22 PM
Man more giant hits and Turco is standing on his head so far...

1-0 Stars
8:27 2nd

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 09:40 PM
good period. hold the lead for 20 more minutes!

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 09:41 PM
Yep.

2-0
end of 2nd

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 09:45 PM
Yep.

2-0
end of 2nd


2-0? what game you watching?

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 10:02 PM
1-0 sorry

Now 1-1. 3rd period woes continue

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 10:08 PM
;) It should have been 2-0

Still got a lot left. Playing at home helps..

Do you know if Stars win tonight, does the NHL start round 3 early or do they pretty much stick with the schedule as if it the games all went 7?

Scott D
5/4/2008, 10:19 PM
That's why they have the Mets. Buffalo is more like Waco, only with way fewer sensational deaths. :D

but unlike an Aggy, or Buffalo team the Mets have actually WON something....twice ;)

Scott D
5/4/2008, 10:20 PM
1-0 sorry

Now 1-1. 3rd period woes continue

I swear, it's like the concept of winning 4 games in this series is a 'hot potato'. In the end the papers are just going to talk about which team managed to choke the series away ;)

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 10:33 PM
Wow what a hit! looks like a major concussion..

Second game today going into overtime. Hopefully that hit woke up Dallas.

bri
5/4/2008, 10:33 PM
but unlike an Aggy, or Buffalo team the Mets have actually WON something....twice ;)

Hey, aggy got them two basketball titles back in aught-eight or whenever. :D

Ash
5/4/2008, 10:35 PM
Wow what a hit! looks like a major concussion..

Second game today going into overtime. Hopefully that hit woke up Dallas.

Completely clean hit, but it rocked Michalek. He had to be carried off the ice.

Could be a factor in OT.

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 10:36 PM
Wow what a hit! looks like a major concussion..

Second game today going into overtime. Hopefully that hit woke up Dallas.

Yep, Morrow and Turco have showed up for this one.

Need need to get a bounce here in overtime.

Could be a short OT. Guys on the radio after the last Overtime game said they didn't think a OT game had gone over 5-6 minutes yet in these playoffs.

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 10:51 PM
HO. LEE. CRAP.

What a save. Remember that save...could be a momentum changer that swings the series.

2 inches farther back on that save and I'm going to bed right now. Wow.

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 10:52 PM
AMAZING save

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 10:53 PM
Stay classy Stars fans, quit throwing **** onto the ice...not a goal.

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 11:07 PM
So the refs are just gonna let everything go it seems...

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 11:07 PM
Holy cow.. breath

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 11:09 PM
no kidding. I love the way the Stars came out for this OT. Hopefully it pays off for them here.

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 11:11 PM
Huge save by Turco!!!

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 11:12 PM
both goalies are standing on their heads!

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 11:13 PM
Neither team/goalie deserves to lose this game.

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 11:18 PM
Gotta love the intesity! So much for a quick overtime.

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 11:18 PM
No kidding.

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 11:22 PM
holy carp.

Clean ice for Reibero and the game is over. Just lost it. Then a few seconds later hits the crossbar. I may have to get another beer...

Stars announcers calling it the best OT they've seen in a decade. I haven't bee na big hockey fan for too long but that was exciting.

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 11:22 PM
Lundqvist's brother Henrich played incredible today. I'm glad we knocked them off..

The goaltending in this game has been unreal.

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 11:23 PM
It's way past my bedtime but no way I'm leaving this!

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 11:24 PM
ditto

Ash
5/4/2008, 11:38 PM
this is the kind of game that makes the Stanley Cup great!

Holy ****! Turn over but can't convert.

SteelCitySooner
5/4/2008, 11:53 PM
woah..you get hot girls with shovels? We get old farts with shovels in Pgh..

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 11:54 PM
Ice girls. One of them took a pane of glass to the face in the first period.

colleyvillesooner
5/4/2008, 11:56 PM
Red Wings are loving the length of this Game 6.

SteelCitySooner
5/5/2008, 12:07 AM
What a game. Ref's aren't calling anything. This could get ugly..

colleyvillesooner
5/5/2008, 12:13 AM
GET? Did you miss the stick to Morrow's cheek??

colleyvillesooner
5/5/2008, 12:28 AM
Now they call a penalty...not good for Dallas.

been way worse things than that have happened

colleyvillesooner
5/5/2008, 12:31 AM
Hell of a penalty kill...maybe we'll get a power play in this OT too.

colleyvillesooner
5/5/2008, 12:33 AM
101 total shots, 2 goals...

colleyvillesooner
5/5/2008, 01:24 AM
Stars get their chance at a power play... AND THEY SCORE!!!!!!!!!!

GrapevineSooner
5/5/2008, 03:35 AM
You forgot to mention WHO got the winner in Quadruple OT. ;)

Which would be one Brenden Morrow, rather fittingly.

Thank God the Western Conference Finals doesn't start until Thursday.

SoonerStormchaser
5/5/2008, 06:13 AM
I turned it off and went to bed after 2 OT's...I had completely lost faith that the karma gods would let Dallas win this one. I war wrong.

tulsaoilerfan
5/5/2008, 07:54 AM
You forgot to mention WHO got the winner in Quadruple OT. ;)

Which would be one Brenden Morrow, rather fittingly.

Thank God the Western Conference Finals doesn't start until Thursday.

Amen to that

SteelCitySooner
5/5/2008, 08:00 AM
Great win for the Stars and good luck to ya'll against Detroit. That team looks scary, but you can take 'em. I'll be pulling for you until you face the Pens for the final.

colleyvillesooner
5/5/2008, 08:09 AM
You forgot to mention WHO got the winner in Quadruple OT. ;)

Which would be one Brenden Morrow, rather fittingly.

Thank God the Western Conference Finals doesn't start until Thursday.

heh, I went to bed so fast your head would spin. Just happened to be typing the power play post when he slammed it through.

colleyvillesooner
5/8/2008, 06:49 PM
Hey Stars, quit turning it over.

BS call makes it a 5 on 3 and the Red Wings score.

1-0 Red wings 14:00 1st

colleyvillesooner
5/8/2008, 06:59 PM
Man I love Power plays with 0 shots. :mad:

Scott D
5/8/2008, 07:09 PM
at least you get to see the game. I went from a hotel that HAS versus to a more expensive hotel that has like 15 tv channels...WTF. :mad:

colleyvillesooner
5/8/2008, 07:09 PM
Man they are calling it tight. Stars probably aren't used to that after the anything goes Game 6 they played.

2 power play goals for Det.

2-0 Det 4:00 1st

colleyvillesooner
5/8/2008, 07:10 PM
at least you get to see the game. I went from a hotel that HAS versus to a more expensive hotel that has like 15 tv channels...WTF. :mad:

Well, your team looks crisp, and we look like just played 4 OT's. ;)

colleyvillesooner
5/8/2008, 07:15 PM
another penalty on Dallas. Unbelievable sloppy play by Dallas. Just not there so far tonight.

colleyvillesooner
5/8/2008, 08:52 PM
ugh, just dumb playing by the Stars. They look alot slower that Det. Gonna be a tough series if we don't turn it around quickly.

tulsaoilerfan
5/8/2008, 10:11 PM
Kinda expected this tonight after Detroit had a cakewalk with the Avs and Dallas basically finished a 7 game series against the Sharks; I didn't see the first period, but it sounded like even the announcers thought the 5 on 3 goal was set up by a pretty weak penalty on Dallas

GrapevineSooner
5/8/2008, 10:41 PM
Detroit could have named their score tonight to be sure and made the Stars look like boys out there.

As for the officiating, the 5-on-3 call might have been harsh, but you have to play through it.

What bothers me about the officiating is Holmstrom being allowed to park his butt in front of Turco. That has to be called because how else are you going to prevent it? Knock him down?

Well, then you draw yourself another call to put your team down 5-on-3. It's not quite to the level of Sean Avery tactics, but it's pretty close. And the NHL needs to immediately step in, send out a memo, whatever they have to do to preven Holmstrom from basically setting up camp in the crease.

tulsaoilerfan
5/9/2008, 07:26 AM
Detroit could have named their score tonight to be sure and made the Stars look like boys out there.

As for the officiating, the 5-on-3 call might have been harsh, but you have to play through it.

What bothers me about the officiating is Holmstrom being allowed to park his butt in front of Turco. That has to be called because how else are you going to prevent it? Knock him down?

Well, then you draw yourself another call to put your team down 5-on-3. It's not quite to the level of Sean Avery tactics, but it's pretty close. And the NHL needs to immediately step in, send out a memo, whatever they have to do to preven Holmstrom from basically setting up camp in the crease.


I agree; officials need to either call a penalty or dis-allow any goals that he's in the crease; on that 3rd goal he was bumped up right against Marty; however, if it's not going to be called, then Dallas needs to do the same damn thing when they are on the power play and set up right in front of Osgood; let's see how quickly they would stop that from happening

tulsaoilerfan
5/9/2008, 07:27 AM
Holmstrom does this all the time and it's never called; if the leagues going to allow him to park his butt in the crease, then they need to allow the defensemen around the league to slash and cross check him all they want

GrapevineSooner
5/9/2008, 07:30 AM
For the record, I don't have a problem with him parking himself just outside of the crease. When it comes to screening goaltenders, I'd submit that he's probably the best in the NHL at it.

Just don't let him park in the crease. Or if you do, allow the goaltenders to give him the Ed Belfour treatment. :D

mfosterftw
5/9/2008, 12:46 PM
Holmstrom is a powerplay specialist and has been for years. Over his career, half the goals scored when he is on the ice come on the powerplay, which is why his career +/- after 11 seasons in Detroit is only +20. He never kills penalties, he was on shorthanded lines not even four whole minutes this season, and I'll bet that was when he'd come on right before the Wings went to full strength.

The rest of the Cup will be fun to watch, but I'm waiting for the draft next month.

StuMondo
5/9/2008, 03:03 PM
I'm all for letting them play. I'm against a lot of these new penalties i.e. obstruction, new interference rules and stricter enforcement of hooking, etc.) I'm a "let them play" type of a guy.

But I am a former NCAA tender, so my point of view may be a bit biased towards the goalies. What Holmstrom did the other night was goaltender interference. I knew it. Turco knew it. The annoucers knew it. Y'all knew it. As soon as you saw it you knew it. Then when you saw the replay you thought it was even more.

Turco was ****ed and right so. But there comes a point though as a goalie where you gotta say, if the refs aren't going to do something about this, then I am. At that point you have to make it "uncomfortable" for Holmstrom for being in there. And I don't fault Holmstrom for doing it, if they let you get away with it, I'd do it too!

But it's just BS how they let him get away with it. It 2 minutes in the box. F-ing call it!

Scott D
5/9/2008, 04:47 PM
The amount of times he does it are vastly outnumbered by the times he doesn't. Not saying it's the case in last night, but I'd say easily 80% of the time that he ends up inside the crease it's because of the defenseman that is trying to cover him.
On the converse side of your argument, he's been called for goalie interference on occasions when he was a good 4-5" outside of the crease and the goalie moved up into him to try and draw a call, so with Homer it goes both ways.

colleyvillesooner
5/9/2008, 04:48 PM
Whatever, dude. ;)

JohnnyMack
5/9/2008, 09:42 PM
Evgeni Malkin is better than you.

FYI.

SteelCitySooner
5/9/2008, 11:11 PM
Pens sweep the Philthy Flyers? Got tickets to the game on Sunday.. w00t!!

Malkin has been on fire. I was at the game last Sunday when we wrapped it up against the Rags...Seeing that dude fly on the ice live gives you a whole new appreciation that you just can't get on TV. He's doesn't have the charisma as Sid the Kid, but damn that dude may be just as amazing.

Edit: I am told that Martin Biron loosely translates in Russian as "Malkin's B*tc5. ;)

SteelCitySooner
5/10/2008, 06:52 PM
Stars look a lot better today..

tulsaoilerfan
5/10/2008, 07:06 PM
Except for Marty;he's got to stop at least one of those shots he let go in, probably both of them

tulsaoilerfan
5/10/2008, 07:07 PM
It would also help if the Stars could hit the net or the goalie once in a while when they are wide open from about 5 ft :(

tulsaoilerfan
5/10/2008, 07:08 PM
Tippett also needs to get Lundqvist and his worthless *** off the second line and put Hagman or Miettinen there; Brad Richards' talents are being wasted with the crap wingers he has

SteelCitySooner
5/10/2008, 07:25 PM
****. 5 on 3

SteelCitySooner
5/10/2008, 08:06 PM
Turco has shut them down since the 2nd. Keep it up..

SoonerBorn68
5/10/2008, 08:25 PM
Let's go Red Wings! <clap clap, clap clap clap>

tulsaoilerfan
5/10/2008, 08:38 PM
Dumb, dumb, play by Ribeiro after the game, although on the replays it looked like Osgood got the first hit in with the butt end of the stick; if Ribeiro is suspended, then Osgood should be also

tulsaoilerfan
5/10/2008, 08:39 PM
Again, can Tippett please put anyone else with Brad Richards? Lundqvist hasn't done a thing since the Anaheim series; hell i would rather see Winchester on that line than him

tulsaoilerfan
5/10/2008, 08:42 PM
Dallas has got to get some shots on net; 18 shots will not get it done against a team like Detroit; lots of wasted chances in this game cause they can't even hit the net; how the hell do you not get a shot on goal on a 4 on 1

SteelCitySooner
5/10/2008, 08:52 PM
Dumb, dumb, play by Ribeiro after the game, although on the replays it looked like Osgood got the first hit in with the butt end of the stick; if Ribeiro is suspended, then Osgood should be also

I thought so too.. But on replay's, he definitely got butted to the face by Osgood.

SoonerStormchaser
5/10/2008, 09:30 PM
Ribero is gonna get ko'd for the rest of the series AT LEAST! Ozzie will come out clean, but you're right, he should get nailed at least a game or two.

SteelCitySooner
5/10/2008, 10:57 PM
I don't think so. Osgood started it with a butt to the face. Ribeiro's retaliation hit was to the pads. I don't think anything happens to either one.

SoonerStormchaser
5/10/2008, 11:18 PM
Trust me, Rib's getting suspended for a few games.

GrapevineSooner
5/11/2008, 12:14 AM
Trust me, Rib's getting suspended for a few games.

His slash was stupid, but the Osgood butt-end will be seen as a mitigating circumstance and as such, no suspension.

Bottom line: Mountain out of a molehill

Not that I think this series is going to swing on whether or not Ribs gets suspended.

The score was 2-1, but at any point in the third did anyone think Detroit was in any real danger of losing this one?

tulsaoilerfan
5/11/2008, 02:19 AM
His slash was stupid, but the Osgood butt-end will be seen as a mitigating circumstance and as such, no suspension.

Bottom line: Mountain out of a molehill

Not that I think this series is going to swing on whether or not Ribs gets suspended.

The score was 2-1, but at any point in the third did anyone think Detroit was in any real danger of losing this one?

Nope; Dallas seems to be unable to mount any serious scoring threats, and Tippett seems unwilling to do anything to change up his lines; i hate to say it, but this looks like a sweep barring something miraculous(especially if Lehtinen is out the rest of the series)

Scott D
5/11/2008, 08:20 AM
Trust me, Rib's getting suspended for a few games.

Hell even I don't think Ribiero is going to get suspended, mainly because the league can see clearly on video what caused the scene. What I think Stars fans should be concerned about is that their team is getting closer to being individuals instead of a team out of frustration and agitation.


Nope; Dallas seems to be unable to mount any serious scoring threats, and Tippett seems unwilling to do anything to change up his lines; i hate to say it, but this looks like a sweep barring something miraculous(especially if Lehtinen is out the rest of the series)

Dallas is going to throw everything they have in game 3. Tipper is going to have to change his lines if Lehtinen is out. Also, from what I've seen Ott has been just as BAD this series as he was GOOD against San Jose. I don't think his style of play is suited to a series like this. Dallas seems caught between two different styles of play. Part of the team is capable of skating and playing the style that the Wings prefer, the other half of the team plays like a San Jose/Anaslime style and unless you're gifted with goal scoring from those big bodies it's not a style conducive to winning.

Also Dallas fans, if the hype is true congrats on signing Fabian Brunnstrom. After Vancouver fired Nonis we were allegedly the front runners but we wouldn't guarantee him a NHL roster spot right away. Ken Holland told him he'd have to earn it the same as any other rookie.

Oh, and lucky for you guys I guess...Franzen is likely going to miss at least one more game this series with the concussion-like symptoms that he's apparently been experiencing since game 3 against the Avs.

tulsaoilerfan
5/11/2008, 11:24 AM
Hell even I don't think Ribiero is going to get suspended, mainly because the league can see clearly on video what caused the scene. What I think Stars fans should be concerned about is that their team is getting closer to being individuals instead of a team out of frustration and agitation.



Dallas is going to throw everything they have in game 3. Tipper is going to have to change his lines if Lehtinen is out. Also, from what I've seen Ott has been just as BAD this series as he was GOOD against San Jose. I don't think his style of play is suited to a series like this. Dallas seems caught between two different styles of play. Part of the team is capable of skating and playing the style that the Wings prefer, the other half of the team plays like a San Jose/Anaslime style and unless you're gifted with goal scoring from those big bodies it's not a style conducive to winning.

Also Dallas fans, if the hype is true congrats on signing Fabian Brunnstrom. After Vancouver fired Nonis we were allegedly the front runners but we wouldn't guarantee him a NHL roster spot right away. Ken Holland told him he'd have to earn it the same as any other rookie.

Oh, and lucky for you guys I guess...Franzen is likely going to miss at least one more game this series with the concussion-like symptoms that he's apparently been experiencing since game 3 against the Avs.

The big problem with Dallas is the wingers; they don't have enough consistent scorers to put together 2 scoring lines, and if Lehtinen is out that makes it even harder;i'm also still puzzled as to why Hagman is only getting 3rd line minutes in the playoffs when he scored more than Eriksson and Lundqvist combined during the season; hell at this point i'm not so sure i wouldn't play Modano and Richards together to see if that would get them both going in this series as they both have been invisible in the first 2 games.

Scott D
5/11/2008, 12:09 PM
Modano's had a career of being invisible in the postseason. He hasn't had a legitimate scoring threat on his wing since Brett Hull left to come north.

tulsaoilerfan
5/11/2008, 03:43 PM
Modano's had a career of being invisible in the postseason. He hasn't had a legitimate scoring threat on his wing since Brett Hull left to come north.

Other than Hull i'm not sure he's ever had a legitimate scorer on his wing, and most of the years in Dallas he's been the only scoring line they could put out there in the playoffs; in spite of that,his playoff scoring average is pretty close to his regular season points average so i wouldn't say he's invisible in the playoffs but just without alot of help during his peak years

r5TPsooner
5/11/2008, 06:30 PM
All I know is that if the Flyers play sissy hockey again tonite, they'll be down 2-0.

Scott D
5/11/2008, 06:40 PM
Other than Hull i'm not sure he's ever had a legitimate scorer on his wing, and most of the years in Dallas he's been the only scoring line they could put out there in the playoffs; in spite of that,his playoff scoring average is pretty close to his regular season points average so i wouldn't say he's invisible in the playoffs but just without alot of help during his peak years

well I should say that by 'invisible' I am referring more to it being easier for teams to make him more of a non-factor in games.

Regardless of what happens this year, if the hype is to be believed you guys got yourselves a scoring winger/center that is blossoming into a potential superstar in Fabien Brunnstrom.

tulsaoilerfan
5/11/2008, 06:46 PM
well I should say that by 'invisible' I am referring more to it being easier for teams to make him more of a non-factor in games.

Regardless of what happens this year, if the hype is to be believed you guys got yourselves a scoring winger/center that is blossoming into a potential superstar in Fabien Brunnstrom.

I hope you are correct; has he actually signed with the Stars yet? I read he had picked Dallas but don't know when he's going to be officialy their property; hell i wish he would be in uniform tomorrow night. :D

Scott D
5/11/2008, 09:39 PM
he signed an entry level contract 2 days ago. However, because of NHL rules he can't suit up for them until training camp next year. I think if I was a Stars fan I'd be cautiously optimistic about the guy. He went from being an undrafted nobody to Sidney Crosby comparisons by some almost overnight.

GrapevineSooner
5/12/2008, 09:25 AM
Hell even I don't think Ribiero is going to get suspended, mainly because the league can see clearly on video what caused the scene. What I think Stars fans should be concerned about is that their team is getting closer to being individuals instead of a team out of frustration and agitation.

Trust me, the drying up of the offensive well isn't lost on me.

In their last 6 games, the Stars have scored the following number of goals in each game (one of which was a 4OT affair).

2,1,2,2,1,1


Dallas is going to throw everything they have in game 3. Tipper is going to have to change his lines if Lehtinen is out. Also, from what I've seen Ott has been just as BAD this series as he was GOOD against San Jose. I don't think his style of play is suited to a series like this. Dallas seems caught between two different styles of play. Part of the team is capable of skating and playing the style that the Wings prefer, the other half of the team plays like a San Jose/Anaslime style and unless you're gifted with goal scoring from those big bodies it's not a style conducive to winning.

Well, I get the feeling that Detroit's just a bad matchup for Dallas.

Granted, Detroit causes matchup problems with just about every other team in the league as well, so there'd be no shame in losing to them.


Also Dallas fans, if the hype is true congrats on signing Fabian Brunnstrom. After Vancouver fired Nonis we were allegedly the front runners but we wouldn't guarantee him a NHL roster spot right away. Ken Holland told him he'd have to earn it the same as any other rookie.

Well, we'll see if the hype is deserved.

SteelCitySooner
5/12/2008, 10:28 AM
No suspensions....Rib and Osgood are getting fined.

My opinion, what Osgood did was more reprehensible and cheap than Rib.

GrapevineSooner
5/12/2008, 01:10 PM
In some respects, that discussion falls under the category of minutia.

To me, they both fall under the category of reckless acts.

Just as you could argue that Osgood could have taken Ribeiro's eye out, so to could you argue that Ribeiro could have seriously injured Osgood if he had struck him in the act.

Thankfully, Osgood's act simply left Ribeiro with a strawberry while Ribeiro's slash initiated one of the worst acting scenes in hockey history. ;)

Scott D
5/12/2008, 04:08 PM
In some respects, that discussion falls under the category of minutia.

To me, they both fall under the category of reckless acts.

Just as you could argue that Osgood could have taken Ribeiro's eye out, so to could you argue that Ribeiro could have seriously injured Osgood if he had struck him in the act.

Thankfully, Osgood's act simply left Ribeiro with a strawberry while Ribeiro's slash initiated one of the worst acting scenes in hockey history. ;)

Thankfully we still have Patty Roy's antics, Esa Tikkanen's antics, and Tiger Williams' career ahead of Osgood's bad acting job as worst acting scenes in hockey history ;)

but like Grape said, both acts could have been worse than they were, and thankfully neither one was.


Well, I get the feeling that Detroit's just a bad matchup for Dallas.

Granted, Detroit causes matchup problems with just about every other team in the league as well, so there'd be no shame in losing to them.

True enough, I honestly felt that the team that was the worst teams for the Wings to go up against in the postseason were Anaheim and Nashville in that order. Thankfully you guys got rid of Anaslime, and we took care of Nashville who ended up looking better than they were because their goalie coach happened to be Dom's goalie coach for most of his career in Buffalo.


Well, we'll see if the hype is deserved.

Agreed, and it looks like we picked up Ville Leino in response to the Brunnstrom signing by you. Although at this point I'd be more worried about what happens if his expectations aren't met by the Stars. Basically his sticking point with Detroit was that we weren't going to guarantee him immediate ice time as a top two line forward.

JohnnyMack
5/12/2008, 04:18 PM
Esa Tikkanen spek!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2329/2093916591_9e3422e32a.jpg

Scott D
5/12/2008, 04:27 PM
Angelfirowned :)

colleyvillesooner
5/12/2008, 05:47 PM
I just want to win tonight. Please.

colleyvillesooner
5/12/2008, 07:42 PM
Perfect example of how this series has gone.

Dallas works their *** off in the corner for a whole minute, Morrow lays on a defensman's stick, then they score. Hard earned goal to tie it at 1-1.

37 seconds later Detroit scores on an easy tap in to beat Turco.

20 seconds later, Hagman gets nailed, so he punches the guy in the back of the head, and gets a penalty.

This should make it 3-1 if it goes like it has.

colleyvillesooner
5/12/2008, 07:44 PM
Well, good kill by the stars.

SteelCitySooner
5/12/2008, 07:55 PM
Great start by the Stars. They can win this game....got to finish on those opportunities though.

SteelCitySooner
5/12/2008, 08:06 PM
wide open net!

colleyvillesooner
5/12/2008, 08:08 PM
Three more good chances for a goal wasted...

Oh goodie, a turnover that leads to a shorthanded 2 on 1

colleyvillesooner
5/12/2008, 08:11 PM
GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SteelCitySooner
5/12/2008, 08:12 PM
Good goal! Just felt that coming. Star's had them on their heels since the start of the period.

colleyvillesooner
5/12/2008, 08:12 PM
Pretty goal.

Stars are still doing some dumb things, but they are playing aggressive. Best 1st half of a game this series, by FAR.

StuMondo
5/12/2008, 08:27 PM
unacceptable goal to give up Marty. This is the playoffs dude.

SteelCitySooner
5/12/2008, 08:27 PM
Breakaway goal for Wings. Dallas got sloppy on the change...can't do that against this team.

SteelCitySooner
5/12/2008, 08:41 PM
Great period. Even though Stars are down by one, you got this sense they are very much in this game and it's theirs to lose. Stop the sloppy mistakes..Wings will kill you on those everytime.

tulsaoilerfan
5/12/2008, 08:48 PM
I think Dallas could score 10 goals in this game and Marty would give up 11; he plays like a world beater against other teams, but can't stick his thumb up his *** against Detroit

tulsaoilerfan
5/12/2008, 08:49 PM
Great period. Even though Stars are down by one, you got this sense they are very much in this game and it's theirs to lose. Stop the sloppy mistakes..Wings will kill you on those everytime.

Difference in this series is when the Wings make a sloppy mistake, Dallas either misses the net or Ozzy makes the save; Marty has got to step up his play and quit allowing the softies

SteelCitySooner
5/12/2008, 09:01 PM
Well chit. Shorthanded goal.

SteelCitySooner
5/12/2008, 09:03 PM
Difference in this series is when the Wings make a sloppy mistake, Dallas either misses the net or Ozzy makes the save; Marty has got to step up his play and quit allowing the softies

Yeah I expected a lot better play from Truco based on what I've seen in previous series. This is the first time I've really watched this series..but he definitely seems off his game.

SoonerStormchaser
5/12/2008, 09:06 PM
As much as I love the Stars, they'd be better off forfeiting Game 4...they look completely disorganized and pathetic right now against Detroit.

colleyvillesooner
5/12/2008, 09:18 PM
I wouldn't say pathetic. Detroit is just 2 goals better than Dallas.

Ugly looking fall for Morrow there. Arm seemed to bend the wrong way. Eww.

tulsaoilerfan
5/12/2008, 09:38 PM
Wow, 5 goals on only 21 shots? I know they weren't all on Marty, but he's not bailing out the defense when he needs to; i don't think Dallas will ever get by the Wings with Turco as their number 1 goalie

SteelCitySooner
5/12/2008, 09:39 PM
Well, barring a miracle...looks like the Wings are going to the finals. I just don't see ya'll beating them on their ice, assuming you take them Wednesday....which doesn't look very optimistic either. Wings are tough.. Maybe their fans will actually show up and fill the seats during the finals.

Lets Go Pens!

tulsaoilerfan
5/12/2008, 09:39 PM
Yeah I expected a lot better play from Truco based on what I've seen in previous series. This is the first time I've really watched this series..but he definitely seems off his game.

Marty is now 2-13-5 overall against the Wings

tulsaoilerfan
5/12/2008, 09:40 PM
Well, barring a miracle...looks like the Wings are going to the finals. I just don't see ya'll beating them on their ice, assuming you take them Wednesday....which doesn't look very optimistic either. Wings are tough.. Maybe their fans will actually show up and fill the seats during the finals.

Lets Go Pens!

It would take a miracle for Dallas to win Wednesday

tulsaoilerfan
5/12/2008, 09:41 PM
Dallas' youngsters on the blue line just aren't ready for a team like Detroit yet; maybe in 2-3 more years

SoonerStormchaser
5/12/2008, 09:42 PM
Let's see:
Detroit- disciplined puck handling
Dallas- let's dump the puck in and see what happens


Any question why Detroit OWNS Dallas?

Scott D
5/12/2008, 10:20 PM
Let's see:
Detroit- disciplined puck handling
Dallas- let's dump the puck in and see what happens


Any question why Detroit OWNS Dallas?

Detroit has been playing this style since the mid 90s, clearly there have been teams that found ways to dump and chase against them. I think teams get caught more in that whole "Detroit being an old team" mindset, when truth is you take away Chelios and Hasek, we're toward the younger end of teams.

Apparently rumor coming from Modano's parents saying that next season is going to be it for Mike.

GrapevineSooner
5/12/2008, 10:44 PM
They'll never admit it.

But I think allowing the Sharks to extend the series by the equivalent of three games started to take a toll on them. Mind you, I think Detroit would have won this series, anyway.

But Dallas just looks gassed out there. And when you're gassed, you make mental mistakes, such as the ones that were made on Detroit's 2nd and 3rd goals of the night.

The line change that led to Hudler's breakaway was just brutal.

GrapevineSooner
5/12/2008, 10:49 PM
Let's see:
Detroit- disciplined puck handling
Dallas- let's dump the puck in and see what happens


Any question why Detroit OWNS Dallas?

How else are they going to beat Detroit?

Carry it in?

Not so much. The Wings D-men are so disciplined with their gap control that that's not possible. And they have the foot speed to allow them to go back, grab the puck, and move it to their forwards about as quickly as you can dump it in.

Dallas just doesn't quite have the horses necessary to assert their will on the Wings. And I hope like hell that Hull and Jackson don't do something outside of this team's identity as to try and build a team just to beat Detroit.

They've got a nice corps of young players that need to continue to grow and they're getting Bruunstrom in the fold next season. See if you can land a legit sniper in free agency and just build from there.

GrapevineSooner
5/12/2008, 10:51 PM
Detroit has been playing this style since the mid 90s, clearly there have been teams that found ways to dump and chase against them. I think teams get caught more in that whole "Detroit being an old team" mindset, when truth is you take away Chelios and Hasek, we're toward the younger end of teams.

Apparently rumor coming from Modano's parents saying that next season is going to be it for Mike.

The Red Wings have done such an excellent job of scouting and drafting to help fill their holes, it's ridiculous.

And that rumor about Mo doesn't surprise me in the least.

He's got the US goal scoring and point scoring record and he has a Cup. Not a whole lot more for him to accomplish.

SoonerStormchaser
5/13/2008, 06:41 AM
How else are they going to beat Detroit?

Carry it in?

Not so much. The Wings D-men are so disciplined with their gap control that that's not possible. And they have the foot speed to allow them to go back, grab the puck, and move it to their forwards about as quickly as you can dump it in.

Dallas just doesn't quite have the horses necessary to assert their will on the Wings. And I hope like hell that Hull and Jackson don't do something outside of this team's identity as to try and build a team just to beat Detroit.

They've got a nice corps of young players that need to continue to grow and they're getting Bruunstrom in the fold next season. See if you can land a legit sniper in free agency and just build from there.

I agree Grapevine. While Dallas's style of play might continuously win against the likes of San Jose and Anaheim (both teams against whom Dallas had a lopsided edge over this past season), Detroit is the one team in the NHL whose entire style of play is based on finesse and pure puck control. Dallas vs. Detroit right now is a lot like OU vs. Texass earlier this decade...complete and utter mental ownership. The Wings are in the Stars' collective heads every time they hit center ice. Until Dallas gets another triggerman (cause Modano is getting old, and Richards can't carry the team like Modano did for a long time), they won't get past the massive hump that is the Detroit Red Wings.

Detroit vs. Pittsburgh is gonna be one hell of a finals...I hope it's a 7-gamer.

Scott D
5/13/2008, 07:36 AM
The Red Wings have done such an excellent job of scouting and drafting to help fill their holes, it's ridiculous.

And that rumor about Mo doesn't surprise me in the least.

He's got the US goal scoring and point scoring record and he has a Cup. Not a whole lot more for him to accomplish.

Well to be fair, the braintrust in charge of the organization for the last 2 decades basically played a part in building the great Islander teams of the late 70s early 80s, the Montreal teams of that same era, and the Pittsburgh teams of the early 90s. Ken Holland learned his job from some of the best, and if nothing, the move to the salary cap has benefitted this franchise a lot more than the rest of the league wants to admit.

A year ago or so, I was hoping we'd convince Mo to come 'home' for his swan song. But realistically it's far better off for him to play his entire career with the same franchise. In this era, there are so few great players who are able to do that anymore. Hell, Scotty Bowman almost traded Steve Yzerman to Ottawa back around 92 or 93. He's glad as hell he didn't do that though.

Scott D
5/13/2008, 07:43 AM
I agree Grapevine. While Dallas's style of play might continuously win against the likes of San Jose and Anaheim (both teams against whom Dallas had a lopsided edge over this past season), Detroit is the one team in the NHL whose entire style of play is based on finesse and pure puck control. Dallas vs. Detroit right now is a lot like OU vs. Texass earlier this decade...complete and utter mental ownership. The Wings are in the Stars' collective heads every time they hit center ice. Until Dallas gets another triggerman (cause Modano is getting old, and Richards can't carry the team like Modano did for a long time), they won't get past the massive hump that is the Detroit Red Wings.

Detroit vs. Pittsburgh is gonna be one hell of a finals...I hope it's a 7-gamer.

Detroit will bang with you if you want to play that way, they'll also get you to take bad penalties in the process. There are other teams that skate and play puck possession. Ottawa comes to mind, Pittsburgh, Buffalo (well before they started getting rid of their top talent). The biggest thing with puck possession is having the experience in the defense to not get rattled when you know forwards are coming in on the forecheck to pound you. That's why you see very few rookies getting ice time in the playoffs for us. That's also why during the worst stretch of the season for Detroit the defense was Lebda, Lilja, and 4 rookies.

Pittsburgh definitely presents a different challenge. And Gary Bettman is salivating at the prospect of this finals. I bet he wishes he'd given ESPN a free contract for the NHL since they'd be promoting the hell out of it.

GrapevineSooner
5/13/2008, 08:47 AM
Hell, Scotty Bowman almost traded Steve Yzerman to Ottawa back around 92 or 93. He's glad as hell he didn't do that though.

So that wasn't just some random off-the-wall Keith Gave rumor? ;)

Scott D
5/13/2008, 05:35 PM
So that wasn't just some random off-the-wall Keith Gave rumor? ;)

As terrible a writer as Keith Gave is, nope. Bowman referred to it during Yzerman's jersey retirement ceremony. From what I remember, Mike Illitch was huge in blocking that trade from happening. God everyone hated Keith Gave lol, people here were glad when he went to Dallas to write. Now I see that mlive.com keeps him away from sports as much as possible. I had the year wrong, apparently Bowman gave serious consideration to trading Yzerman for Alexei Yashin back between the 94 and 95 seasons.

SteelCitySooner
5/13/2008, 08:22 PM
Pens up 2 to 1 going into the third. Hang on for just 20 more minutes!

SteelCitySooner
5/13/2008, 09:16 PM
Great win for the Pens. The defense is amazing and playing on a level nobody ever thought they could. It wasn't very long ago when Therrien rightully said they were the worst defensive team in the league... One more win for the sweep! It coulnd't happen against a better team. The Flyers are the filth of the NHL.

GrapevineSooner
5/13/2008, 09:19 PM
As terrible a writer as Keith Gave is, nope. Bowman referred to it during Yzerman's jersey retirement ceremony. From what I remember, Mike Illitch was huge in blocking that trade from happening. God everyone hated Keith Gave lol, people here were glad when he went to Dallas to write. Now I see that mlive.com keeps him away from sports as much as possible. I had the year wrong, apparently Bowman gave serious consideration to trading Yzerman for Alexei Yashin back between the 94 and 95 seasons.

The blog Abel to Yzerman mentioned Gave the other day and that particular piece of journalism that I'm assuming got him run out of town.

Which brought back old memories of how he emailed me one day because I and a handful of other Stars fans blasted his work in the Morning News and for talking about during radio interviews about "off the record" conversations he had with Ken Holland after the Stars signed Brett Hull. ;)

Scott D
5/14/2008, 09:18 AM
The blog Abel to Yzerman mentioned Gave the other day and that particular piece of journalism that I'm assuming got him run out of town.

Which brought back old memories of how he emailed me one day because I and a handful of other Stars fans blasted his work in the Morning News and for talking about during radio interviews about "off the record" conversations he had with Ken Holland after the Stars signed Brett Hull. ;)

yeah, I saw that blog when I was googling Gave. The man is still a tool, thankfully he's no longer a 'sports writer'. I think he got ran out of town here just because everyone was tired of his shtick. I know he became persona-non-grata in the locker room at the Joe. Plus by that point the Freep and News had up and coming hockey writers. I think the one we had that I somewhat miss is Jason La Canfora who went from Wings writer to covering the Caps and Redskins for the Washington Post.

SteelCitySooner
5/14/2008, 07:09 PM
Here's hoping the Stars can pull one out at home. At least this game has decent announcers..Doc and Eddie O are both pretty knowleadable and fair. The other dillweeds broadcasting the Pens/Flyers game are jokes.

SteelCitySooner
5/14/2008, 09:05 PM
SCORE!!!

Dallas is making a game out of this!

2 to 1 in the 3rd

colleyvillesooner
5/14/2008, 09:21 PM
score again!!

3-1 Dallas! 5:00 3rd

Where has that hustle been?

SteelCitySooner
5/14/2008, 09:33 PM
Put your brooms away Detroit. No sweeping in Dallas tonight!

GrapevineSooner
5/14/2008, 09:35 PM
Well if I'm going to rant about the NHL allowing Homer to get away with goaltender interference, I have to acknowledge when the refs nail him with an absolute phantom call.

Anyway, I'll take 'em anyway I can get 'em. :D

JohnnyMack
5/14/2008, 10:02 PM
This is kinda like Hillary Clinton winning WV, eh?

<runs away>

colleyvillesooner
5/14/2008, 10:30 PM
This is kinda like Hillary Clinton winning WV, eh?

<runs away>

Yep. And if you really wanna feel like your boy Obama, jump on the Penguins bandwagon. That way you can experience getting to the big dance, just to get bent over in the real deal.

Oh wait, you're already a Sooner fan. :D

colleyvillesooner
5/14/2008, 10:49 PM
Well if I'm going to rant about the NHL allowing Homer to get away with goaltender interference, I have to acknowledge when the refs nail him with an absolute phantom call.

Anyway, I'll take 'em anyway I can get 'em. :D

Yep, crap call.

Scott D
5/14/2008, 10:50 PM
Well if I'm going to rant about the NHL allowing Homer to get away with goaltender interference, I have to acknowledge when the refs nail him with an absolute phantom call.

Anyway, I'll take 'em anyway I can get 'em. :D

Good win on the part of your boys. That call definitely changed the game, and the Stars capitalized on it. Hopefully we can put this series to bed on Saturday to avoid a return to that slush called a rink down there ;)

colleyvillesooner
5/14/2008, 10:52 PM
backhanded compliments, and rink smack. It's almost a series. ;)

Scott D
5/14/2008, 10:54 PM
backhanded compliments, and rink smack. It's almost a series. ;)

what can I say, I usually don't see ice that bad this early...I expect it in June, not early May ;)

colleyvillesooner
5/14/2008, 10:57 PM
:les:IT'S BEEN HUMID!!!

Scott D
5/14/2008, 11:04 PM
:les:IT'S BEEN HUMID!!!

oh and if you think this is bad, I ripped on Tampa the year they won the cup so much. That was like playing hockey on a pond..with a very very thin layer of ice under the water.

SteelCitySooner
5/15/2008, 07:12 AM
Yep. And if you really wanna feel like your boy Obama, jump on the Penguins bandwagon. That way you can experience getting to the big dance, just to get bent over in the real deal.

Oh wait, you're already a Sooner fan. :D

I know that wasn't directed to me, but I am not a bandwagon fan. I live in Pittsburgh, and have for ten years. Became a fan when i first moved here and went to my first live hockey game at the Igloo. Rooted for the Pens through our run in 2000-2001 going to the ecf with Jagr...And stuck wtih them through the past horrid years while we've rebuilt, acquired Crosby, Malkin, Staal, etc..

I don't want to get too much into analysis of the finals yet since this series isn't over, but I think the Pens match up pretty well against the Wings. I don't think its going to be the blow out everyone outside of Pittsburgh thinks it will be. Granted Detroit has a high power offense...the best Pens will have seen yet, but Pittsburgh has a soffocating defense (best in the playoffs) the likes that detroit hasn't yet seen either. Same on the flipside, Detroits D is awesome, but we got the offensive power (and snipers) to play any style of game. Our goalie (Fluery) is the best in the playoffs and we definitely have the advantage there.

What worries me a little, is that although Pens have been completely dominating with and 11-1 record, we've played a Ottawa team that really sucked and was on a downward spiral. An aging Ranger team that just couldn't keep up with our speed and young legs, and a Flyer team that can keep up, but just doesn't have the talent (and down their two top defensemen). We haven't played the talent and speed that a Detroit can bring yet.

I can envision Pittsburgh getting blown out in game 1 just due to shock... But then get settled in for a long 7 game series that could be a hell of a ride.

Scott D
5/15/2008, 08:40 AM
I know that wasn't directed to me, but I am not a bandwagon fan. I live in Pittsburgh, and have for ten years. Became a fan when i first moved here and went to my first live hockey game at the Igloo. Rooted for the Pens through our run in 2000-2001 going to the ecf with Jagr...And stuck wtih them through the past horrid years while we've rebuilt, acquired Crosby, Malkin, Staal, etc..

I don't want to get too much into analysis of the finals yet since this series isn't over, but I think the Pens match up pretty well against the Wings. I don't think its going to be the blow out everyone outside of Pittsburgh thinks it will be. Granted Detroit has a high power offense...the best Pens will have seen yet, but Pittsburgh has a soffocating defense (best in the playoffs) the likes that detroit hasn't yet seen either. Same on the flipside, Detroits D is awesome, but we got the offensive power (and snipers) to play any style of game. Our goalie (Fluery) is the best in the playoffs and we definitely have the advantage there.

What worries me a little, is that although Pens have been completely dominating with and 11-1 record, we've played a Ottawa team that really sucked and was on a downward spiral. An aging Ranger team that just couldn't keep up with our speed and young legs, and a Flyer team that can keep up, but just doesn't have the talent (and down their two top defensemen). We haven't played the talent and speed that a Detroit can bring yet.

I can envision Pittsburgh getting blown out in game 1 just due to shock... But then get settled in for a long 7 game series that could be a hell of a ride.

settle down bro. He's making fun of JohnnyMack the Devils fan :)

SteelCitySooner
5/15/2008, 08:56 AM
settle down bro. He's making fun of JohnnyMack the Devils fan :)

Yeah I know I didn't take any offense to that...which is why I said I knew it wasn't directed to me. But there has been a boatload of band-wagoners jumping on Penguin train lately because of the Crosby/Malkin hype. I guess there's equally been a lot of hate for the Pens because of the Crosby hype.

I don't think the finals are going to be as one sided as most people think it's going to be. Wings can be beat with a good D and some offense, as Dallas proved last night.

If anybody can beat them 4 games, it will be the Penguins. But..enough of that until we handle the Cryers tonight...I need to find that damn broom. ;)

JohnnyMack
5/15/2008, 09:09 AM
Colley can suck it.

I'm hoping for a Detroit/Pittsburgh finals as I think that will be the most interesting matchup.

As far as those teams go though, I really wouldn't care if an earthquake swallowed the arena during game 1.

If you need me, I'll be watching Scott Stevens videos on YouTube.

colleyvillesooner
5/15/2008, 09:22 AM
Anyone else see the comparison between Tim Duncan and Sidney Crosby? ;)

Time will tell, but both teams lucked into a franchise player that revives their team.

JohnnyMack
5/15/2008, 09:26 AM
Why do you hate Evgeni Malkin?

Scott D
5/15/2008, 09:44 AM
Yeah I know I didn't take any offense to that...which is why I said I knew it wasn't directed to me. But there has been a boatload of band-wagoners jumping on Penguin train lately because of the Crosby/Malkin hype. I guess there's equally been a lot of hate for the Pens because of the Crosby hype.

I don't think the finals are going to be as one sided as most people think it's going to be. Wings can be beat with a good D and some offense, as Dallas proved last night.

If anybody can beat them 4 games, it will be the Penguins. But..enough of that until we handle the Cryers tonight...I need to find that damn broom. ;)

no worries, we just tend to make fun of people who feel the need to defend themselves by saying they aren't bandwagon fans. ;)


Why do you hate Evgeni Malkin?

clearly he's a Don Cherry tool ;)

colleyvillesooner
5/15/2008, 09:46 AM
Double luckage.

SteelCitySooner
5/15/2008, 09:52 AM
Anyone else see the comparison between Tim Duncan and Sidney Crosby? ;)

Time will tell, but both teams lucked into a franchise player that revives their team.

Comparison in what way? I see some similarities but admittedly don't know a lot about Duncan... Both are on top of their game at a very young age, but not into the fame..being forced to be in the limelight. Both seem humble, unassuming..some might even say 'boring'. Crosby has the pressure though as the "face of the new NHL" whether he wants it or not. NHL couldn't ask for a better role model though, Crosby is about as wholesome, hardworking, dedicated to the sport, and professional as you can get.

Malkin on the other hand, totally opposite...drinks, smokes, parties, chases the chicks, but still show's up to play an amazing game. I actually think he knows more English than he lets on, but hates media interviews.. ;) He's a natural and with more maturity and weight, he's going to be a powerhouse in the NHL.

Lucking into franchise players is true to a point.. If you want to call it 'luck' being the worst team in the NHL to get those draft picks. Ray Shero, and previously Craig Patrick, has put together a pretty good cast of supporting characters. Jordan Staal, Fluery, Malone, Gonchar, Orpik, Roberts, now Hossa..

And the coaching. You got to admit, the defensive 'system' that has been implemented and bought into by the players has been pretty flawless so far. It's nothing extravagant, the players have just been executing it to perfection.

colleyvillesooner
5/15/2008, 09:55 AM
a simple ":mad:" would have been fine.

:D

SteelCitySooner
5/15/2008, 10:05 AM
Fine :mad:

Nah I just got time to kill. :cool:

Beef
5/15/2008, 11:08 AM
Double luckage.

I like that term. If I ever get with my roomie and one of her sisters, I will refer to it as that.

colleyvillesooner
5/15/2008, 11:20 AM
I like that term. If I ever get with my roomie and one of her sisters, I will refer to it as that.

You should just focus on single luckage for now. ;)

Beef
5/15/2008, 11:23 AM
You should just focus on single luckage for now. ;)
I thought that if you were going to have unrealistic dreams, that you should have really friggin unrealistc dreams. Did I mention that she has 3 sisters? All of them are legal now and all pretty hawt.

Scott D
5/15/2008, 11:25 AM
Comparison in what way? I see some similarities but admittedly don't know a lot about Duncan... Both are on top of their game at a very young age, but not into the fame..being forced to be in the limelight. Both seem humble, unassuming..some might even say 'boring'. Crosby has the pressure though as the "face of the new NHL" whether he wants it or not. NHL couldn't ask for a better role model though, Crosby is about as wholesome, hardworking, dedicated to the sport, and professional as you can get.

Malkin on the other hand, totally opposite...drinks, smokes, parties, chases the chicks, but still show's up to play an amazing game. I actually think he knows more English than he lets on, but hates media interviews.. ;) He's a natural and with more maturity and weight, he's going to be a powerhouse in the NHL.

Lucking into franchise players is true to a point.. If you want to call it 'luck' being the worst team in the NHL to get those draft picks. Ray Shero, and previously Craig Patrick, has put together a pretty good cast of supporting characters. Jordan Staal, Fluery, Malone, Gonchar, Orpik, Roberts, now Hossa..

And the coaching. You got to admit, the defensive 'system' that has been implemented and bought into by the players has been pretty flawless so far. It's nothing extravagant, the players have just been executing it to perfection.

The fun part for the Pens will become the offseason. They've got to find the money to re-sign Staal, Fleury, and especially Malkin. Hossa will likely be little more than a rental to win the cup this year for them.

Scott D
5/15/2008, 11:25 AM
I thought that if you were going to have unrealistic dreams, that you should have really friggin unrealistc dreams. Did I mention that she has 3 sisters? All of them are legal now and all pretty hawt.

you are going to give yourself another heart attack my friend :(

colleyvillesooner
5/15/2008, 11:34 AM
you are going to give yourself another heart attack my friend :(

It'd be worth it though. :D

GrapevineSooner
5/15/2008, 11:39 AM
Anyone else see the comparison between Tim Duncan and Sidney Crosby? ;)

Time will tell, but both teams lucked into many franchise players that revived their team.

Fixed ;)