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The Maestro
4/7/2008, 05:53 PM
It certainly seems stupid, but T. Boone's coin is no laughing matter. Tripling your salary to go back to your alma mater with a six million dollar signing bonus is nothing to not consider. I just wonder if Kansas loses tonight if Bonnie Bernstein is gonna go ask the Kansas coach about the OSU job and watch him bust out with "$hit!" on CBS. Kidding...I know Self would never do that.

But I am starting to think that the offer is too good to pass up. We'd all do it to triple our salaries and you can win at OSU. Self wins everywhere.

yermom
4/7/2008, 06:03 PM
is that officially on the table?

i mean i could see him going for a dumptruck full of money if he's got ties there anyway

redpurple
4/7/2008, 06:10 PM
no

skycat
4/7/2008, 06:16 PM
is that officially on the table?

i mean i could see him going for a dumptruck full of money if he's got ties there anyway

There have been absolutely ridiculous numbers reported on ESPN and elsewhere, although nothing official is going to be stated until after the tourney.

I would expect an enormous offer with a large amount of upfront cash to be coming though.

Self to OSU is a very real possibility at this point.

The Maestro
4/7/2008, 06:17 PM
Could be a rumor, but if THESE numbers are real...well???

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/ncaa

SoonerMom2
4/7/2008, 07:58 PM
Self is good friends with the Athletic Director at Kansas and would say there would not be enough money on the table to make him leave an established program to go to OSU and be under the thumb of Holder and Pickens. How many times does he have to tell them to look elsewhere? He said there is a gentlemen's agreement to sit down after the season and work out a new contract. Unlike the folks at OSU, some people like Bill Self would have too much class to cut and run from a top program to a much lesser program. That would be dumb because money does not buy prestige of a top four program.

Oh wait, this is the Championship of the NCAA so we must write about how a coach in going elsewhere. Remember how the media had Stoops going to Ohio State while we were in the Orange Bowl.

shaun4411
4/7/2008, 08:08 PM
ive been on their boards. it went from 2mil if kansas had lost to davidson to 4 mil. and now the rumor is 6mil.

the funny thing is that we'll probably see him have a press conference a few days after he's done fellating the national championship trophy seeing him respectfully decline a 3M/year offer.

Zbird
4/7/2008, 08:17 PM
Let's see....... leave a top 5 basketball powerhouse, Home of BB creation, protection of the Phog, home to coaches like Larry Brown and Roy Williams, players like Chamberlin .........or the cesspool stench of East Barnyard U and the legacy of drunk Eddie and poor whipped Sean and players like Doug "got mine" Gottlieb or Jamesonahigh Curry or some nameless child molester. Which one would I choose???? Answer - ain't enough money Booney.

PhiDeltBeers
4/7/2008, 08:27 PM
Let's see....... leave a top 5 basketball powerhouse, Home of BB creation, protection of the Phog, home to coaches like Larry Brown and Roy Williams, players like Chamberlin .........or the cesspool stench of East Barnyard U and the legacy of drunk Eddie and poor whipped Sean and players like Doug "got mine" Gottlieb or Jamesonahigh Curry or some nameless child molester. Which one would I choose???? Answer - ain't enough money Booney.


I knew Dougie G. in college and Curry had nothing on him in the "high" department.

I spoke with the founder of High School Sports the Magazine on Saturday and he seems to have some insight that it might already be a done deal and Self is going to Deadwater.

KaiserSooner
4/7/2008, 11:04 PM
no

tommieharris91
4/7/2008, 11:09 PM
I'm surprised to think that people think there is no talent there right now, because there is. Any decent coach can walk into that program right now and get that team to the NCAAs next season.

I think they'll get a good coach. I don't know who, but I don't see Bill Self going there.

yermom
4/7/2008, 11:11 PM
yeah, not now, especially

olevetonahill
4/7/2008, 11:14 PM
******* that I am . I wanted to Hear him say
STFU Boone

tommieharris91
4/7/2008, 11:20 PM
You know what we could do is pay Self in Canadian money and it wouldn't cost so much.

It's funny because as weak as the dollar is, it would cost them a little more!

RacerX
4/7/2008, 11:21 PM
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/Kijinnmaru-inconceivable.jpg

sooner518
4/7/2008, 11:25 PM
my friend swears he has a friend at the OSU athletic department who says Self's wife closed on a house in Stoolwater on Saturday. Hearing him tell me that was like parody coming to life.

tralfazSooner
4/7/2008, 11:30 PM
How about Self going to the NBA? Maybe taking Carlisimo's place?

sooner2b09
4/7/2008, 11:33 PM
Today on PTI they were talking about this and Wilbon went on to say "Wait isn't OSU a football school?" I just about fell out of my chair laughing, seems to me everyone has forgotten about those 1940's NIT Championships.

OKC-SLC
4/7/2008, 11:35 PM
I just simply cannot imagine leaving KU for osu.

Rock Hard Corn Frog
4/7/2008, 11:43 PM
I'm not denying that Self is a real good coach but I do get a kick out of the Aggy logic that Self winning a NC at Kansas with the talent that KU gets will equal titles coming to OSU.

Hey, remember:mack: has a title at Texas. Does that mean if he got a fat contract to go coach TT or TCU that he would be winning titles there too? Not knocking the coaching of Self but KU did have some serious talent.

I don't think Self goes because KU doesn't have to match OSU's offer. They just have to be in the same ballpark then it makes no sense for him to leave.

Big Red Ron
4/7/2008, 11:51 PM
It seems to me, they have two things working for them though. 1) The pity card (only you can save our once proud program) 2) A seemingly bottomless pit of money.

Individually, both can be powerful arguments, together there's no telling. It may not seem like the logical choice to stay at Kansas but dang he just accomplished his highest career goal and now his alma mater is offering him the biggest contract EVER in CBB.

He has to seriously consider it.

Mixer!
4/7/2008, 11:55 PM
I liked the analyst at halftime saying no way Self leaves, and that they'd go after Gillespie instead.

Yes, please - by all means, go sign the guy with 3 DUI's already. It can only add to the hilarity.
:eddie:

SoonerShark
4/8/2008, 12:06 AM
No way will he go to OSU. At some point you don't need more money. Unless, of course, Self has a gambling habit and needs big bucks for his Indian casino jones.

Big Red Ron
4/8/2008, 12:19 AM
No way will he go to OSU. At some point you don't need more money. Unless, of course, Self has a gambling habit and needs big bucks for his Indian casino jones.
6 Mil up front and 4 mil per year for 10 years would be hard for anyone to turn down. Kansas couldn't offer him anything close to that.

stoopified
4/8/2008, 12:31 AM
No.That would be like Stoops or Brown coming to TBS to coach football just for a big payday.It won't happen.Why does everyone assume KU can't muster a suitable compensation package to ward off T.Boone and the Orange Horde?Basketball is their athletic identity after all.

olevetonahill
4/8/2008, 12:44 AM
6 Mil up front and 4 mil per year for 10 years would be hard for anyone to turn down. Kansas couldn't offer him anything close to that.

That Argument I dont understand .
Really, If I got 10 MIL, In the Bank , Love what Im doing , Love where I am .
Greed Is the Only thing that Could make Me Go .
How Much More does a Person Need to Be happy ?
?

Fraggle145
4/8/2008, 12:59 AM
http://files.colonies.com/userdata/3245069/blogphotos/ThisThreadSucks.jpg

Havent got to use this one in a while...

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
4/8/2008, 01:07 AM
Today on PTI they were talking about this and Wilbon went on to say "Wait isn't OSU a football school?" I just about fell out of my chair laughing, seems to me everyone has forgotten about those 1940's NIT Championships.YESSS!

ouflak
4/8/2008, 02:20 AM
He should get a nice raise out of this result.

wishbonesooner
4/8/2008, 07:36 AM
If you're coaching at Kansas and you just won a NC, and you even entertain the thought of moving to STILLWATER OKLAHOMA, you are an idiot and Boone Pickens and Mike Holder would make perfect playmates.

BillyBall
4/8/2008, 08:40 AM
He should get a nice raise out of this result.


Yup, either way he is gonna get a big pay day soon

stoopified
4/8/2008, 09:04 AM
Yup, either way he is gonna get a big pay day soonExactly.Just watched M&M In The Morning.They had Self on their and he sais that he would tell oSU to look elsewhere(again).He just wanted to sit down with KU officials and work something out.He DID go on to say IF something couldn't be worked out,then you never know.The tone and demeanor of his voice to me was he did not think THAT(KU not working out would happen).

cheezyq
4/8/2008, 09:27 AM
That Argument I dont understand .
Really, If I got 10 MIL, In the Bank , Love what Im doing , Love where I am .
Greed Is the Only thing that Could make Me Go .
How Much More does a Person Need to Be happy ?
?

This is exactly what I'm thinking. Self is going to get a very nice contract offer from KU. Maybe it's not $46mil, but it will be nice enough to be set for the rest of his life. And I don't buy this "going home to family" BS, either. Stooly is only 4-5 hrs from Lawrence anyway. It's not like 15-20 hrs like it is from Lawrence to Raleigh when Roy left.

The ONLY reason to leave KU is purely greed. And if he's that greedy, he deserves HolderDown and SlimPickins.

NormanPride
4/8/2008, 09:56 AM
Self has said time and time again that he's not interested. That the only way is if Kansas gives him the shaft, and even then he'd just use it as a bargaining chip. But the damn DOK and OKC media are such horndogs about this issue that it just won't drop.

People outside of Oklahoma think it's a joke.

r5TPsooner
4/8/2008, 10:04 AM
Not a snowball's chance in hell!

TopDawg
4/8/2008, 10:26 AM
Let's see....... leave a top 5 basketball powerhouse, Home of BB creation, protection of the Phog, home to coaches like Larry Brown and Roy Williams, players like Chamberlin .........or the cesspool stench of East Barnyard U and the legacy of drunk Eddie and poor whipped Sean and players like Doug "got mine" Gottlieb or Jamesonahigh Curry or some nameless child molester. Which one would I choose???? Answer - ain't enough money Booney.

But then again, you didn't go to school at OSU and Self did. That's not to illustrate the allure of returning to your alma mater, but to illustrate that there's just not something right with him...so rational thinking ain't gonna get you inside his head.

Of course, there's sometime to be said about the expectations. Roy Williams left KU under some intense heat after TWO STRAIGHT Final Four appearances. Eddie Sutton had two Final Four appearances in his entire tenure at OSU and got the court named after him.

Alma mater + big time coin + less pressure, might = appealing

TopDawg
4/8/2008, 10:28 AM
Self has said time and time again that he's not interested.

Didn't Roy Williams say that too?

I'm hoping that KU's win will lead KU to do whatever it takes to keep Self there. That'll make their win a little easier to swallow.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
4/8/2008, 11:14 AM
I'm hoping that KU's win will lead KU to do whatever it takes to keep Self there. That'll make their win a little easier to swallow.A bonus is that KU, even with a championship, deep in the back of their minds, know that their coach is AGGY!

OklahomaRed
4/8/2008, 11:44 AM
Exactly.Just watched M&M In The Morning.They had Self on their and he sais that he would tell oSU to look elsewhere(again).He just wanted to sit down with KU officials and work something out.He DID go on to say IF something couldn't be worked out,then you never know.The tone and demeanor of his voice to me was he did not think THAT(KU not working out would happen).

Ditto. Heard the same clip on ESPN Radio this morning. He basically sounded like he was staying at KU unless they failed to coming up with something that was acceptable after winning the national title.

I would seriously lose a lot of respect for the man if he was willing to work for a snake like Pickens just for the money.

SleestakSooner
4/8/2008, 11:55 AM
I think it is abysmal that a public university is so easily controlled by one demented individual.

Look at the general perception of the Dallas Cowboys for instance. Most people would NEVER go work as their head coach becuse they would be forced to kowtow to Jerry Jones. At least in their case, he IS the owner and has the right to demand certain things and be involved.

T. Boone Pickens does not own OSU. He can never own OSU. OSU is a state run public university and needs to start acting like one. Please Pokes... stop embarrassing the state of Oklahoma and tell Pickens thanks for the money, now get along little doggie!

Collier11
4/8/2008, 11:59 AM
By Mike Strain, World Sports Editor
4/1/2008 6:50 PM


Kansas basketball coach Bill Self said Tuesday he won't be the next coach at Oklahoma State.

"I'm not a candidate," Self told the Lawrence (Kan.) Journal World.

SoonerMom2
4/8/2008, 12:06 PM
Not a snowball's chance in hell!

Exactly! He has already stated that he has a great relationship with the Athletic Director and they would work out a long term arrangement after the Final 4. No way is he leaving KU.

As for the crappy sports media except for a few, they are out of touch on reality of what OSU is really like. Who would want to live in Stillwater? Far from everything not to mention Bill Self is not going to go to Pickens U and have to answer to Pickens and Holder. Not going to happen!

Could not believe the front page of the sports section in The Oklahoman and Rhode's column which overshadowed the win of KU. I am tired of OSU and hope they go .500 next year in every sport they have. They talk about bias of the sports media -- that's for sure -- in favor of them. All you have to do is read the ridiculous articles put out about their storied program but then when you look at the facts before the fired Kentucky coach came aboard they were pitiful. I am ready to go back to those days and didn't even live here then.

SoonerMom2
4/8/2008, 12:07 PM
By Mike Strain, World Sports Editor
4/1/2008 6:50 PM


Kansas basketball coach Bill Self said Tuesday he won't be the next coach at Oklahoma State.

"I'm not a candidate," Self told the Lawrence (Kan.) Journal World.

Tulsa World does a better job of reporting the facts then the OKC side of the state with their fawning over Pickens/Holder and saying money will buy them any coach. Self has just proven that loyalty to a program cannot be bought! Way to go Bill Self!

Collier11
4/8/2008, 12:08 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3335480&sportCat=ncb

The great thing about osu throwing their name out there is that everyone in the national media is making fun of them. Everyone knows osu is not kansas, osu isnt even OU when it comes to bball even though the osu fans dont seem to realize it!

TopDawg
4/8/2008, 12:17 PM
It seems to me, they have two things working for them though. 1) The pity card (only you can save our once proud program) 2) A seemingly bottomless pit of money.

Individually, both can be powerful arguments, together there's no telling. It may not seem like the logical choice to stay at Kansas but dang he just accomplished his highest career goal and now his alma mater is offering him the biggest contract EVER in CBB.

He has to seriously consider it.

Exactly.

And although OSU doesn't have the allure that OSU fans would like to think it does, it's also not as unattractive as many OU fans would like to think it is.

Location: geographically, there probably aren't many schools which have a huge draw based SIMPLY on their location. When you live and breathe your sport (which by most accounts is what D-1 coaches do), the place you live probably doesn't affect you too much. Especially if you've got huge amounts of coin that will let you travel whenever and where ever you want and to build a place that will help you forget where you live if it actually is a hell-hole.

Tradition/Status of the Program: The tradition is nowhere near as great as OSU fans pretend, but the status of the program is also not as bad as the last two years would suggest. They're only 4 years removed from a Final Four, so it's not like he's going into a place that's in shambles. You can win at OSU. And, I think most of us would agree, they drastically underachieved this year. What does that mean? They had (and have) the talent to be much better.

Money: :texan: :texan: :texan: :texan: :texan: :texan:

Alma Mater: This is the wild card. This makes everything above look even better. He's got ties to this university that none of us can understand. Every coach will tell you that there is something special about coaching at your alma mater.

I hope like hell that he doesn't go and I expect him to stay at KU. I hope the national title game convinces KU to make sure he stays in Lawrence, because I don't think OSU can lure in another established winner (because, as far as I know, there's not another establish winner that's an alum). They might get someone great, but I'd rather them have to take a bigger risk. But to say that there's no chance he'll go and that the only reasons he would go are: (1) stupidity or (2) greed, seems a bit short-sided.

The Maestro
4/8/2008, 12:31 PM
Bottom line, if KU is offering two million and OSU four million with a six million dollar bonus...I mean, who doesn't go to their alma mater to double their salary regardless of the circumstances??? That is a big IF...but IF!

If it happens, hey Kansas...quit hiring coaches that are graduates of other D1 schools that can afford to pay them more than you can!

SoonerShark
4/8/2008, 12:43 PM
6 Mil up front and 4 mil per year for 10 years would be hard for anyone to turn down. Kansas couldn't offer him anything close to that.

Money does not mean as much once you reach a certain level. You could buy Payne County for $1.9 million. Of course, I would rather spend my money on Lincoln County for $1.2 million and take in all of that Turner Turnpike speeding ticket money.

SoonerShark
4/8/2008, 12:46 PM
I am tired of OSU and hope they go .500 next year in every sport they have.

I am less gracious and will grant them a good batting average, .333.

Mixer!
4/8/2008, 01:01 PM
Let's not forget one more thing: the media fawns all over Boone State because they serve them "some high class grub". I've yet to run across a media member who didn't love them some free food. :pop:

SoonerShark
4/8/2008, 01:01 PM
Didn't Roy Williams say that too?

I'm hoping that KU's win will lead KU to do whatever it takes to keep Self there. That'll make their win a little easier to swallow.

Of course, Roy stayed at KU 15 years. Billy Tubbs was here for 14 years and is now loved in Norman. Kelvin was here 12 years. None of the three was fired, but sometimes it's just time to ease on down the road. Of course, Roy still had momentum and Billy and Kelvin were in cruise control after having won in their middle periods here. After Self has been at KU ten years, which is only five years away, who knows?

TopDawg
4/8/2008, 02:00 PM
Good points. But I just used the Roy Williams example because it was a recent example of that happening at KU. There is an extremely long list of coaches who said they weren't going anywhere who then, in fact, went somewhere. It's not the most reliable gauge of a coach's intent.

tommieharris91
4/8/2008, 04:43 PM
Good points. But I just used the Roy Williams example because it was a recent example of that happening at KU. There is an extremely long list of coaches who said they weren't going anywhere who then, in fact, went somewhere. It's not the most reliable gauge of a coach's intent.

My mom is still mad at Bill Self for doing this to Tulsa.

SleestakSooner
4/8/2008, 07:21 PM
So tell me honestly, do you guys think Sean Sutton would have gotten canned if OSU had not been swept by the Sooners this season? I wager that even if they finished with the same exact record and tournament loss, but along the way swept OU instead he would still have his jorb.

Such is the aggot desire to simply beat them danged gooners.

Mixer!
4/8/2008, 07:27 PM
I think that's a big part of it. They should change their name from Cowboys to Myopics.

birddog
4/8/2008, 08:41 PM
http://www.orangepower.com/showthread.php?t=51639

here's a thread about the gooners on self.

tommieharris91
4/8/2008, 09:46 PM
And the first post of the thread about, well... this thread.


Here are some gooners thoughts on the Self to OSU subject. Looks like to me one or two people on there have enough teeth in there heads to be realistic.

Well, if he's going to attack our intelligences, he should learn the difference between there, their, and they're. I learned this in 3rd grade.

SleestakSooner
4/8/2008, 09:49 PM
http://www.orangepower.com/showthread.php?t=51639

here's a thread about the gooners on self.


Thanks for that waste of time. They really can't see that we are about equal in basketball and will never admit how badly they trail in football.:rolleyes:

It is obvious that crimson shaded glasses enable you to read facts and understand them much better than gloss orange shaded glasses.

sooner2b09
4/8/2008, 10:19 PM
Thanks for that waste of time. They really can't see that we are about equal in basketball and will never admit how badly they trail in football.:rolleyes:

It is obvious that crimson shaded glasses enable you to read facts and understand them much better than gloss orange shaded glasses.

I should have listened to you, I think my IQ just went down 50 pts. Maybe I qualify for their board now! :D

Ash
4/8/2008, 10:19 PM
Well, you've got to hand it to Boone and Pokie Lite for getting some undeserved publicity. If they didn't have Boone, nobody would take the Self rumors seriously and nobody would care who they hired.

Ash
4/8/2008, 10:20 PM
I should have listened to you, I think my IQ just went down 50 pts. Maybe I qualify for their board now! :D

That's giving them a lot of credit.

Mixer!
4/8/2008, 10:45 PM
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9079/aggiepz6.jpg

soonerfan28
4/9/2008, 08:49 AM
I am still shocked that Self made less then Mangino, but I'm sure that some of that was bonus incentives when he made it to the Orange Bowl. Still, how do you pay the basketball coach at Kansas less then you do the football coach? Who could be mad at him for leaving.

sooner2b09
4/9/2008, 09:57 PM
I just heard Gotleib on ESPN Radio saying that he doesnt think Self will go

sooner518
4/10/2008, 06:04 AM
op.com is buzzing that Self is supposedly in Stillwater now. FWIW, my friend who says he has a friend in the OSU athletic department says Self is meeting with Holder now. Take that with a huge boulder of salt.

SoonerMom2
4/10/2008, 09:13 AM
Lawrence newspaper reporting Self calls press conference for 4:30 p.m. today

Jayhawks basketball coach Bil Self will meet with the media at 4:30 p.m. today. More details to come.


Guess that blows the report he is in Stillwater talking to Holder.

SoonerMom2
4/10/2008, 09:16 AM
KU Athletics schedules 4:30 p.m. press conference
J-W Staff Reports

Thursday, April 10, 2008

The Kansas University athletics department just announced that it will hold a 4:30 p.m. press conference regarding its men's basketball program.

The press conference will address the future of coach Bill Self. Three microphones have been set up at the table in the auditorium.

Self met with athletic director Lew Perkins earlier this afternoon, and is known to still be in the building.

For more on this story as it develops, including live updates, audio and video from the press conference, stay tuned to KUSports.com.

Ash
4/10/2008, 09:21 AM
Bill Self has not left the building.


Heh.

Collier11
4/10/2008, 09:22 AM
Maybe the aggots will pull their heads out now and realize that they arent that highly regarded of a bball program and no one is going to leave KU for puke st

SoonerMom2
4/10/2008, 09:26 AM
The original time of 4:00 was changed to 4:30 so it is the same press conference and KUsports.com is reporting there are three microphones set up.

tommieharris91
4/10/2008, 09:30 AM
Probably to announce which players are staying/leaving as well.

Collier11
4/10/2008, 09:33 AM
It is really funny reading all the puke fans, this is what I saw in the 5 minutes I could stand being on their board

Self would be dumb not to go to stilly
Why would Self say he would talk if the phone rang if he wasnt serious
I heard he is flying in this morning(which caused hilarious excitement)
Why does everyone on the radio and tv talk bad about Stillwater, it is better than Norman
Why is ESPN making us out to be nothing but a fat pay check and nothing more
We are a football school, oh well,

blah blah blah...They are entitled to love their school and be confident but Damn, they are really unrealistic over there! I feel sorry for them sometimes not really

John Kochtoston
4/10/2008, 09:43 AM
http://www.orangepower.com/showthread.php?t=51639

here's a thread about the gooners on self.

I think the guy who is both an ag and a Cubs fan should just go ahead and off himself now.

I also love that the bulk of the thread was dedicated to a debate as to whether OU is just a little bit better, or a lot better than OSU in basketball. ON AN AG BOARD!

SoonerMom2
4/10/2008, 09:56 AM
Which one of you posted on the KU message board? This is my favorite post especially the last two words:

Now Billy Gillespie can say NO to OSU. I'm still fan rooting against "T. Boone Pickens U" for life for the distraction they caused during Final Four Week.


BOOMER SOONER

cheezyq
4/10/2008, 12:43 PM
Which one of you posted on the KU message board? This is my favorite post especially the last two words:

Now Billy Gillespie can say NO to OSU. I'm still fan rooting against "T. Boone Pickens U" for life for the distraction they caused during Final Four Week.


BOOMER SOONER

Here's what's funny about them uso fans:

1. Reality about OSU basketball - http://www.orangepower.com/showthread.php?t=51763

That thread thanks the Suttons for what they brought to uso...decent basketball. They basically admit that basketball was dead for 5 decades before the Suttons came along....and that's a GOOD thing, to them.

2. Here's who they think they'll get instead of Self:

A. Calipari, Memphis - Really? He turned down OU and would rather go to Stoolwater? Riiiiiight. At Memphis, he's virtually guaranteed to win the C-USA every year and make it to the NCAA. And he's established a nice recruiting base.
B. Larry Brown - Who knows what this guy is thinking, but his last college job was a top 5 program, which uso is not. Perhaps the only thing that would draw him there is Boone's money, but I can't imagine a guy like Brown living under the thumb of Holder/Boone.
C. Bruce Pearl, Tennessee - From one mediocre orange team to another?
D. Billy Gillespie, Kentucky - Already paid well at a top 5 team, and only 1 year into his contract? The only thing that fits here is his DUI history.
E. Jamie Dixon, Pitt - Again, Pitt = Aggie. The programs are the same, with the exception that Pitt has been successful lately.
F. Mark Few, Gonzaga - Yeah they're a mid-major, but they're very successful of late and don't have any of the recruiting issues to worry about anymore.
G. Sean Miller, Xavier - Again, Xavier = Aggie. No reason to move other than money.

There's more, but you get the idea.

OP.com fans are under this weird delusion that people are falling all over themselves to coach at Stalewater. In reality their only options are going to be an up-and-comer at some 4th- or 5th-tier school (like we got with Capel), or (like Tubby Smith to Minnesota last year, or Eddie Sutton previously) a coach that burned out at some other major college.

But we can't count on any realism coming out of those guys anyway.

:stunned: "Dang cheetin gooners probbly payd Bill Self to staiy at KU" :stunned:

Mixer!
4/10/2008, 03:48 PM
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4651/howsmarttoday8dk1lgja7.jpg

heh.