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Okla-homey
4/7/2008, 07:25 AM
first a completely fabricated tale of combat heroism in the face of snipers intent on killing HRC and her daughter, now a made-up tale of some lady who died because she didn't have 100 bucks based on a rumor passed on by a small town cop.

What next? A story about some guy drowning in a jillion gallon vat of Coca-Cola syrup because the evil corporation wouldn't drain the expensive liquid in order to save him? How about spiders in bouffant hairdos. And murderers with hooks instead of hands accosting teens parked out in the boonies making out:mad:


April 5, 2008
Ohio Hospital Contests a Story Clinton Tells By DEBORAH SONTAG

Over the last five weeks, Hillary Clinton has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured.

“We implore the Clinton campaign to immediately desist from repeating this story,” said Rick Castrop, chief executive officer of the O’Bleness Health System.

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February.

A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that.”

The sheriff’s deputy, Bryan Holman, had played host to Mrs. Clinton in his home before the Ohio primary. Deputy Holman said in a telephone interview that a conversation about health care led him to relate the story of Ms. Bachtel. He never mentioned the name of the hospital that supposedly turned her away because he did not know it, he said.

Deputy Holman knew Ms. Bachtel’s story only secondhand, having learned it from close relatives of the woman. Ms. Bachtel’s relatives did not return phone calls Friday.

As Deputy Holman understood it, Ms. Bachtel had died of complications from a stillbirth after being turned away by a local hospital for her failure to pay $100 upfront.

“I mentioned this story to Senator Clinton, and she apparently took to it and liked it,” Deputy Holman said, “and one of her aides said she’d be using it at some rallies.”

Indeed, saying that the story haunted her, Mrs. Clinton repeatedly offered it as a dire example of a broken health care system. At one March rally in Wyoming, for instance, she referred to Ms. Bachtel, a 35-year-old who managed a Pizza Hut, as a young, uninsured minimum-wage worker, saying, “It hurts me that in our country, as rich and good of a country as we are, this young woman and her baby died because she couldn’t come up with $100 to see the doctor.”

Mrs. Clinton does not name Ms. Bachtel or the hospital in her speeches. As she tells it, the woman was turned away twice by a local hospital when she was experiencing difficulty with her pregnancy. “The hospital said, ‘Well, you don’t have insurance.’ She said, ‘No, I don’t.’ They said, ‘Well, we can’t see you until you give $100.’ She said, ‘Where am I going to get $100?’

“The next time she came back to the hospital, she came in an ambulance,” Mrs. Clinton continued. “She was in distress. The doctors and the nurses worked on her and couldn’t save the baby.”

Since Ms. Bachtel’s baby died at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital, the story implicitly and inaccurately accuses that hospital of turning her away, said Ms. Weiss, the spokeswoman for O’Bleness Memorial said. Instead, the O’Bleness health care system treated her, both at the hospital and at the affiliated River Rose Obstetrics and Gynecology practice, Ms. Weiss said.

The hospital would not provide details about the woman’s case, citing privacy concerns; she died two weeks after the stillbirth at a medical center in Columbus.

“We reviewed the medical and patient account records of this patient,” said Mr. Castrop, the health system’s chief executive. Any implication that the system was “involved in denying care is definitely not true.”

Although Mrs. Clinton has told the story repeatedly, it first came to the attention of the hospital after The Washington Post cited it as a staple of her stump speeches on Thursday. That brought it to the attention of The Daily Sentinel in Pomeroy, Ohio, which published an article on Friday.

Neither paper named the hospital or challenged Mrs. Clinton’s account.

TUSooner
4/7/2008, 07:41 AM
I went to a Barack Obama rally, and the next thing I know, he stole my kidneys and left me in a bathtub full of ice!

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
4/7/2008, 11:29 AM
I'm thinking the only thing that can stop an Obama landslide in Nov08 is a Clinton comeback.There might well be an anti-Obama sentiment that is even stronger than the anti-Hillary sentiment.

StoopTroup
4/7/2008, 12:03 PM
I would think the girl's Family would be the ones wanting the Clinton Campaign to stop telling the story if it was untrue.

It sounds like there are some mis-stated facts...

I'm sure it looks like a lie if you want to see her fail in her run for the Presidency.

As far as the big picture that health care is great in this country...

I think it sucks.

One serious illness can wipe out a Families decades of hard work to make life comfortable.

Our Country can do better for it's citizens IMO.

r5TPsooner
4/7/2008, 12:29 PM
I would think the girl's Family would be the ones wanting the Clinton Campaign to stop telling the story if it was untrue.

It sounds like there are some mis-stated facts...

I'm sure it looks like a lie if you want to see her fail in her run for the Presidency.

As far as the big picture that health care is great in this country...

I think it sucks.

One serious illness can wipe out a Families decades of hard work to make life comfortable.

Our Country can do better for it's citizens IMO.

Unfortunately our government is more concerned about citizens from Israel and Iraq than it is with its own people.