Hansbrough = Weinke...

[Soonerus]

...I am just saying the guy flopped last night against KU....

[tommieharris91]

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[Soonerus]

Hansbrough got mauled by KU...I loved it...

[Ash]

boorish

[Soonerus]

boorish

duh...are you sure that is a word..duh...duh...

[badger]

I'm going to post here so that you have an excuse to post again in your thread, because that's obviously what you're waiting for - another post by another poster - so you can continue the discussion despite the fact that nobody else has made any comment whatsoever regarding the subject of this thread. Carry on, my wayward Soonerus...

[Curly Bill]

...I am just saying the guy flopped last night against KU....

I won't say he flopped, but I will say I've long thought him to be overrated, and Saturday night was no exception.

edit...actually he did flop a time or two if we're talking about drawing charging fouls. :D

[Civicus_Sooner]

Did he not have like 16 points and 10 boards? He wasn't their problem, their guards didn't show up to play.

[Collier11]

This thread is not backed up by fact or a valid opinion...I really dont like Hansbrough but to say he flopped is rediculous

[Ash]

duh...are you sure that is a word..duh...duh...

Not only am I sure it's a word, I also know it's meaning - unlike some others around here.

[soonerfan28]

Hansbrough can't play defense. He tried too hard to draw charges instead of blocking shots on guys 4 to 5 inches shorter then him. That's what killed them. They drove the lane all night.

[badger]

Ok, ok. I had my fun. Here's what the Dookies are saying about Tyler's flopping:
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper410/stills/gf1kgedo.jpg
They point out this particular play where Singler was doing a spin move or something, Hansbrough falls, Singler gets called for a travel and junk, whatever.

I think everyone who has played basketball with refs involved flops to some degree.

I wasn't watching the game, so this might have been the same play or a different one in the same game, I really don't know or care:
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/876/ncbapsingler412wc3.jpg

If this is true (and again, I didn't watch the game, NP insisted on watching Willy Wonka), it would be ironic considering that it is UNC that usually complains about the Dookies flopping. Here are some of my favorite flops:

Greg Paulus: http://youtube.com/watch?v=s0upQDkY-pg&feature=related
Nebbish @ Baylor: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_pVBtVdM9Ao&feature=related

And let's not forget these flops can happen on offense, especially if you're D-Wade:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aySGUzzxjGE&feature=related

It isn't a good thing to take a charge over and over. It's dangerous, for one, but also, it can put you in easy foul trouble because there's contact involved and it usually goes the offense's way, because after all, high scoring games = better ratings. You might think it's a gutsy thing to do, but really, when taking a charge just involves flailing your arms and falling back as far as possible no matter how hard you're hit, what's so gutsy about that.

And now, to demonstrate the dangers of basketball to a further degree, here are some dunk bloopers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=m43sRhRZUWI&feature=related

:D

[Statalyzer]

Hansbrough can't play defense. He tried too hard to draw charges instead of blocking shots on guys 4 to 5 inches shorter then him.

Defense isn't all blocks and steals. The biggest part of defense is getting inbetween the guy and the basket.


That's what killed them. They drove the lane all night.

He played defense to take away the driving lane rather than to block shots. Had he tried to block shots, KU would have been driving the lane even more effectively had Hansbrough been going for the swat instead of for positioning. If he were a good shotblocker it'd be one thing, but he's not, so gambling for rejections isn't going to pay off much.


I think everyone who has played basketball with refs involved flops to some degree.

Exactly. There is no point in trying to stay on your feet when run into by an offensive player who initiates contact. If you don't make sure you fall over the refs will never call a charge. Even if you do, a lot of refs still will call you for a foul for getting run into just like they'll bail out a guy with free throws for throwing his arms into the defender's and not even trying to shoot the ball into the hoop.

[Collier11]

. Here are some of my favorite flops:

Greg Paulus: http://youtube.com/watch?v=s0upQDkY-pg&feature=related

Horrible attempt by Paulus


Nebbish @ Baylor: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_pVBtVdM9Ao&feature=related

I dont see any problem in this being called a charge, it is a simple player control foul. It is on the offensive player to avoid the defender in that case



Most players attempt to flop, the responsibility falls on the refs to quit falling for all the BS! Many coaches would say that some of the best players can get fouls called on non-foul plays!

[skycat]

Defense isn't all blocks and steals. The biggest part of defense is getting inbetween the guy and the basket.



He played defense to take away the driving lane rather than to block shots. Had he tried to block shots, KU would have been driving the lane even more effectively had Hansbrough been going for the swat instead of for positioning. If he were a good shotblocker it'd be one thing, but he's not, so gambling for rejections isn't going to pay off much.



Exactly. There is no point in trying to stay on your feet when run into by an offensive player who initiates contact. If you don't make sure you fall over the refs will never call a charge. Even if you do, a lot of refs still will call you for a foul for getting run into just like they'll bail out a guy with free throws for throwing his arms into the defender's and not even trying to shoot the ball into the hoop.

KU made their runs by taking the ball right at Hansbrough, and the guy could do nothing to stop them. He was outfought for rebounds by Cole f'ing Aldrich.

He's a decent, but not great player, who hasn't had to face quality bigs in this year's ACC, who happens to play on a media darling.

[Collier11]

KU made their runs by taking the ball right at Hansbrough, and the guy could do nothing to stop them. He was outfought for rebounds by Cole f'ing Aldrich.

He's a decent, but not great player, who hasn't had to face quality bigs in this year's ACC, who happens to play on a media darling.

Yep, only decent players get named natl player of the year! :rolleyes:

[Zbird]

Hansbrough can't play defense. He tried too hard to draw charges instead of blocking shots on guys 4 to 5 inches shorter then him. That's what killed them. They drove the lane all night.

exactly, too one dimensional won't be a high pro pick

[Ash]

That game showed that Hansbrough is a decent athlete but not an elite athlete that will be an impact player at the next level. He's a brawler and outworks people. That can make him a decent role player in the NBA.

[skycat]

Yep, only decent players get named natl player of the year! :rolleyes:

Look at the bigs he played against this year. Paltry list.

He's not one of the 5-10 best players in college, this year. For that matter, there are probably 4 guys on the court tonight that are better than Psycho-T.

[Collier11]

Look at the bigs he played against this year. Paltry list.

He's not one of the 5-10 best players in college, this year. For that matter, there are probably 4 guys on the court tonight that are better than Psycho-T.

you can convince me that he isnt a great athlete or defender, but to say he isnt one of the 5-10 best players this year is rediculous! I dont even like the guy and I cant stand NC but you are way off base!

[Collier11]

exactly, too one dimensional won't be a high pro pick

Top 20 pick, that makes you alot of money last time I checked

http://nbadraft.net/index.asp?content=mock2009

[Collier11]

That game showed that Hansbrough is a decent athlete but not an elite athlete that will be an impact player at the next level. He's a brawler and outworks people. That can make him a decent role player in the NBA.

I agree about his NBA future, but he reminds me a bunch of Boozer who isnt a "Great" athlete whichbut still translates into a nice career