Operation Chaos

[85Sooner]

WEll, it appears that alot republicans turning out to vote for Hillary in the primaries is having as interesting side effect.

Turns out down here in texas at least two pubs who switched to Hillary for a day and caucused for her were actually selected to go to the State Democratic convention as delegates for her.

In Ohio they are trying to investigate Rush Limbaugh for voting fraud bt encourageing pubs to switch for a day to keep hillary in the race and create as much chaos as possible. Looks as if its working. Too funny.

[Okla-homey]

You gotta love politics, even if politcians aren't particularly lovable.

The way I see it, if they want to clamp down on this sort of thing, they should juts have closed primaries like we do here in Oklahoma.

Otherwise, "game on" mofo!

Further, I doubt anyone broke any law merely by "inciting" people to game the system. It ain't like Limbaugh actually facilitated the alleged fraud. He just encouraged people to use the kooky rules as a weapon against the donks to prolong the bloodletting between HRC and BHO.

[BigRedJed]

I know Oklahoma has had its share of political shadyness, but our voting/election system should be a model for the rest of the country, IMO. The balloting system is so straightforward, with paper backup PLUS electronic tabulating, and the primary system is closed.

WTF good comes from an open primary system? I've never understood it.

[StoopTroup]

Rush makes his living off of "Liberal Whackos", yet he uses his power and influence on the air to educate and insinuate that non-democrats should go to the polls and upset the DNC's current struggle to elect a candidate to run against McCain, a candidate who Rush will support....

Pretty dispicable IMO.

He must be back on the painkillers.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

I know Oklahoma has had its share of political shadyness, but our voting/election system should be a model for the rest of the country, IMO. The balloting system is so straightforward, with paper backup PLUS electronic tabulating, and the primary system is closed.

I have long thought the OK ballot system is excellent, less prone to fraud and from a Human Factors/Ergonomics standpoint is about perfect. You have a visual cue to show the intended action, there is little chance of error (either in a mis-mark or a mis-interpretation during audit), it is electronically read and tabulated, if mis-marked, the ballot is placed aside or destroyed, leaving an audit trail and is its own backup for manual tallies. Why this isn't the national standard, I don't know. Actually, I do, follow the money.

I do have to laugh at the repub texans going to the convention, one from Galveston. Were they not queried by the caucus goers? But then again, our 2-step caucus was so misrun and botched, I'm not surprised the whole thing wasn't cancelled. The old guard pols thought they would keep power and side-step the local vote, they sorely misjudged...

[NormanPride]

Here's an idea, everyone register as independent, and the political parties will die.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

If a person wants to mess up the opposition party more than to select the candidate in your own party, all you ever have to do is register with that opposition party. Simple enough. It's been done for many years. This year, a critical mass has been achieved, I do believe.

[Frozen Sooner]

WEll, it appears that alot republicans turning out to vote for Hillary in the primaries is having as interesting side effect.

Turns out down here in texas at least two pubs who switched to Hillary for a day and caucused for her were actually selected to go to the State Democratic convention as delegates for her.

In Ohio they are trying to investigate Rush Limbaugh for voting fraud bt encourageing pubs to switch for a day to keep hillary in the race and create as much chaos as possible. Looks as if its working. Too funny.

The issue is perjury, not voter fraud. The Ohio ballots include a sworn statement about your intentions.

And Homey, Ohio is a closed primary system. That's why only people who registered Democrat got Democratic ballots.

[sooner_born_1960]

And they let them register at the polling place?

[Frozen Sooner]

Yes. Both parties in Alaska have closed primaries and do the same.

[85Sooner]

The issue is perjury, not voter fraud. The Ohio ballots include a sworn statement about your intentions.

And Homey, Ohio is a closed primary system. That's why only people who registered Democrat got Democratic ballots.



Issueing loyalty oaths to register for the dem party.Hmmmm. Love to see how their going to enforce that one.

[sooner_born_1960]

Q. Do you support the Democratic party?
A. Yes.

I don't support any of the Democratic candidates in this in this particular election, but the party itself is fine by me.

[BigRedJed]

All of this is nothing a good strong third party wouldn't fix. I've always wanted to be a Whig. Who's in on helping me get that banner fired up again?

[Frozen Sooner]

Issueing loyalty oaths to register for the dem party.Hmmmm. Love to see how their going to enforce that one.

So far as I know, the language is the same for both parties (with minor changes) in Ohio.

Enforceable or not, perjury is perjury. It's not a matter of legality or illegality (though perjury is a crime)-it's a matter of being willing to lie under oath.

I guess that's only important when it's about a dress and a cigar.

[Scott D]

why a Whig? why not a Federalist?

[BigRedJed]

Well, for a few reasons:

Cooler name
Original party of Lincoln. I'm a fan, plus it's an opportunity to **** off SicEm.
I never agreed with the way the Federalists handled the Whiskey Rebellion.

[Scott D]

Well, for a few reasons:

Cooler name
Original party of Lincoln. I'm a fan, plus it's an opportunity to **** off SicEm.
I never agreed with the way the Federalists handled the Whiskey Rebellion.

I think you're in a secretive Tory plot myself...and therefore I cannot trust your judgement. :D

[85Sooner]

So far as I know, the language is the same for both parties (with minor changes) in Ohio.

Enforceable or not, perjury is perjury. It's not a matter of legality or illegality (though perjury is a crime)-it's a matter of being willing to lie under oath.

I guess that's only important when it's about a dress and a cigar, and sexual harassment and alleged rape and of course if your leader of the free world or a NY governor.:)

I have never been asked in any if the states that I have lived in.

[BigRedJed]

I think you're in a secretive Tory plot myself...and therefore I cannot trust your judgement. :D
Phhht. I'll cut a Redcoat.

[SleestakSooner]

Abe Lincoln, founder of the republican party, is rolling over in his grave... again.

[BigRedJed]

I had a great, great, great....uncle who was a prominent Federalist, but he was out of the loop by the time of the Whiskey Rebellion, so he would probably be OK with my Whig stance.

[BigRedJed]

Abe Lincoln, founder of the republican party, is rolling over in his grave... again.
Wrong. Abe started out as a Whig.

[BigRedJed]

Note I said "original" party of Lincoln.

[SleestakSooner]

and ran for the senate under the republican party

[BigRedJed]

If I were talking about the Republican Party, the word "party" in "party of Lincoln" would have been in caps. But just to be clear, the Republican Party, of which I'm a member, no longer resembles the Party of Lincoln. Which is a bad thing.

[BigRedJed]

and ran for the senate under the republican party
That's fine, but he started out as a Whig, like I said. So there's no "rolling around in the grave." Or, put differently, I was right -- NEENER NEENER NEENER!!!

:kelvin:

[SleestakSooner]

Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican President (1861-1865)

[BigRedJed]

And what exactly is your point? He switched parties. I'M STILL RIGHT -- NEENER NEENER NEENER!!!

:mack:

[SleestakSooner]

and my comment about lincoln had nothing to do with your comments, to be honest I hadn't even seen your post referring to him. So I was not challenging you. It's not all about you here Jed! ;)

[BigRedJed]

Au contraire.

[BigRedJed]

:eddie:

[SleestakSooner]

you think they will let Rush do his broadcasts from the big house?

[BigRedJed]

What does that have to do with Lincoln being a Whig? Or have to do with me? :confused:

[SleestakSooner]

Sorry, I wasn't aware that Operation Chaos was your code name for a revitalized whig party

[BigRedJed]

IT'S ALL ABOUT ME, DAMMIT!!!

[SleestakSooner]

so anyhow, my point was, I don't think "Honest Abe" would be very happy with how the republican party conducts itself these days.

Or as Dick Cheney says... "SO?"

[Pricetag]

If you are a Whig, do you have to wear a whig?

[BigRedJed]

so anyhow, my point was, I don't think "Honest Abe" would be very happy with how the republican party conducts itself these days.

Or as Dick Cheney says... "SO?"
I agree with everything you said there. Of course, I would have preferred that you find some way to make your post more about me and less about Honest Abe.

[BigRedJed]

If you are a Whig, do you have to wear a whig?
Are you volunteering to help me write the new charter?

[mdklatt]

Kristen Wiig (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1325419/) is hawt.

[SleestakSooner]

VOTE FOR JED IN 2012!

[BigRedJed]

Regarding the wig thing, I would vote for not making it compulsory, but I would encourage it. I would love to have a reason to wear my wigs somewhere other than around the house.

[BigRedJed]

This **** was comedy gold you ungrateful sonsofbitches. I'm gonna go get some beers and this thread better be rocking when I get back.

[Jerk]

I like Rush Limbaugh. I've been listening on and off since 1993.

But if what he does backfires and gets that socialist b*tch elected to President, I will be one mad mofo.

[85Sooner]

I like Rush Limbaugh. I've been listening on and off since 1993.

But if what he does backfires and gets that socialist b*tch elected to President, I will be one mad mofo.

I have been wondering that myself.

[BigRedJed]

Good job, people.

[Fraggle145]

Here's an idea, everyone register as independent, and the political parties will die.

One can only hope...

[SleestakSooner]

VOTE BRJ... HE'S NOT GHEY!

VOTE BigRedJed because he's not dead!

BRJ has something to say!

[BlondeSoonerGirl]

Like pouring gasoline on a fire...

[bri]

All of this is nothing a good strong third party wouldn't fix. I've always wanted to be a Whig. Who's in on helping me get that banner fired up again?

Can we be the Afghan Whigs? If so, I'm in.

[BigRedJed]

Absolutely. One more vote on my side. You two-party system losers are about to get pwnt.

as soon as i can convert 40 million or so more people.

[bri]

Sweet! Dibs on being Greg Dulli!