View Full Version : Calling outdoor patio stone do-it-yourselfers
OU-HSV
3/20/2008, 06:25 PM
Here's my idea. My patio is relatively small. So here's what I'm thinking about doing instead of paying to have a larger slab poured.
I found some 16"x16" brick pavers/patio stones at Lowes.
Here's kind of what they look like:
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=100598429&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&PID=500871&cm_mmc=CJ-_-nextag-_-D28X-_-100598429&cpncode=12-44262961-2&URL=http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/BuildLinkToHomeDepot?linktype=product&id=100598429&cm_mmc=CJ-_-nextag-_-D28X-_-100598429&AID=10368321&cj=true&srccode=cii_9324560
I'm thinking about going about 2 rows out with those around my patio to enlarge the patio area. I bought one and laid it out there to see what it will look like. It looks nice.
So my question is have any of you ever done this at your homes? If so what's the best way to make it look nice but still keep from hitting my wallet too hard. I was thinking I'd dig the ground up a bit and make sure I level it out..then put weed mat down..then put a layer of sand on top of the weed mat, then lay the stones on top of that. Am I on the right path here with my idea??
Thanks to all for any help/tips.
OUHOMER
3/20/2008, 07:32 PM
when you put the sand down you will need to stamp it. My BIL did it a couple of years ago and his is standing up to heavy traffic. He used the actual brick type tho. he got it leveled thru down some sand and stamped it flat. he also misted the sand as he stamped it. After he got the pavers down he put sand on top of the bricks and used a push broom to spread the sand into the cracks.
But it sounds like your on the right track.
OU-HSV
3/20/2008, 07:42 PM
when you put the sand down you will need to stamp it. My BIL did it a couple of years ago and his is standing up to heavy traffic. He used the actual brick type tho. he got it leveled thru down some sand and stamped it flat. he also misted the sand as he stamped it. After he got the pavers down he put sand on top of the bricks and used a push broom to spread the sand into the cracks.
But it sounds like your on the right track.
Cool, thanks.
These stones I'm getting resemble brick material also and not rock. That's a good idea with the broom to fill the cracks in tight. So what did he use to stamp the sand down. Like a sheet of plywood or something?
Turd_Ferguson
3/20/2008, 07:59 PM
http://www.barcoproducts.com/images/upload/items/large/Pot-Hole-Patch-Tamper.jpg
OUHOMER
3/20/2008, 08:02 PM
I will have to ask him. Seems like it was a small stamp.. say 12" x 12" . but he just tamped the sand firm.
OUHOMER
3/20/2008, 08:03 PM
yep that looks right
olevetonahill
3/20/2008, 08:09 PM
Pic of your existing Patio slab and the Lawn around it .
we can help Ya better .
Also, is it 'tamp' or 'stamp'? This is important.
Tamp stamp?
OU-HSV
3/20/2008, 08:37 PM
haha tamp stamp. Nice.
KC//CRIMSON
3/20/2008, 08:38 PM
That's a lot of work. If people are going to be walking on it you better go down at least a foot.
OU-HSV
3/20/2008, 08:40 PM
Pic of your existing Patio slab and the Lawn around it .
we can help Ya better .
That would only be needed if there was a hot chick tanning back there or something...plus I'm too lazy to take a pic and download it on here,haha. Its like an 8 x 8 slab that butts up against my brick wall on the back of the house. The grass is pretty much level around the whole slab....at least level as far out as I'll go with the pavers.
OU-HSV
3/20/2008, 08:41 PM
That's a lot of work. If people are going to be walking on it you better go down at least a foot.
I'm thinking it's mainly going to be the area my grill and patio table will sit. Not a whole lot of heavy traffic
OU4LIFE
3/21/2008, 07:30 AM
That's a lot of work. If people are going to be walking on it you better go down at least a foot.
negative.
6 inches is plenty, it's how you use it.
Okla-homey
3/21/2008, 07:54 AM
I made a patio area for my M-I-L about 20 years ago using plain-old bricks, with sand underneath. No tamping, no stamping. The foot traffic after its built does that. Still looks good.
You can rent one of those paver stamping machines (not sure if this is the right term) from Home Depot to get it level. But that's probably only worth it if you're working with a large area.
OU4LIFE
3/21/2008, 10:32 AM
easily done by hand. all it takes is a little effort.
Taxman71
3/21/2008, 11:21 AM
Is the weed fabric to help contain the sand? About every landscaper I know detests weed fabric except for under stones and rock (to keep them in place). If you need weed control, you could use Preen.
fadada1
3/21/2008, 11:32 AM
negative.
6 inches is plenty, it's how you use it.
easily done by hand. all it takes is a little effort.
:D
OU4LIFE
3/21/2008, 11:37 AM
finally, I set that up so well too...I was wondering if ANYONE would notice. this place is slipping.
OU-HSV
3/21/2008, 04:57 PM
Is the weed fabric to help contain the sand? About every landscaper I know detests weed fabric except for under stones and rock (to keep them in place). If you need weed control, you could use Preen.
Yeah I just want to keep weeds from growing through the cracks. Preen? What's this you speak of? Like just visqueen?
Taxman71
3/24/2008, 09:09 AM
Basically, it is pre-emergent you can lay down on soil to prevent existing weeds. Alot of landscapers put in down, cover with mulch, then add another layers to kill existing weeds in the soil. Since you are coving the soil with sand, stone, etc., I doubt any weed seed that blows in would germinate and cause you much trouble. The main thing is to just kill everything that has already taking root in your soil.
Okay Olevet..you wanted to see pics...so you got 'em right here.
I started this project yesterday, and I hope to finish it today, but I'm not sure if I will.
I threw in the last photo that includes my energy drink. :D
Day 1 pics:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1024/patiowork001gk4.th.png (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=patiowork001gk4.png)
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1474/patiowork002gu8.th.png (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=patiowork002gu8.png)
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6582/patiowork005in5.th.png (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=patiowork005in5.png)
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4690/patiowork006hp4.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=patiowork006hp4.jpg)
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4782/patiowork007bj5.th.png (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=patiowork007bj5.png)
Edit:geeze these suckers changed to super small size. I'll bring the next batch of pics in a little larger. Looks like you can click them to see larger size anyways though.
King Crimson
4/6/2008, 08:21 AM
Looks like you can click them to see larger size anyways though.
you can. that's a nice feature.
i admire you doing. my pops laid a bunch of flagstone in his old backyard for a pretty good sized patio area....and said he would be more than happy to pay someone else to do it next time. it came out real nice, but he said it is was a lot of work to do it right once you got going.
you can. that's a nice feature.
i admire you doing. my pops laid a bunch of flagstone in his old backyard for a pretty good sized patio area....and said he would be more than happy to pay someone else to do it next time. it came out real nice, but he said it is was a lot of work to do it right once you got going.
It does feel like it's gonna be a lot of work..and I'm only doing an 8' x 8' area! I'm glad I didn't plan for a bigger area than that. I hate digging and wasn't really thinking about how much shoveling this was gonna take.
olevetonahill
4/6/2008, 11:11 AM
Should Hired Rus . I hear hes pretty good at Shovelin it !
soonerboomer93
4/6/2008, 12:48 PM
if you need to fill gaps, use cement, not sand, unless you don't mine tracking it in when it rains
if you need to fill gaps, use cement, not sand, unless you don't mine tracking it in when it rains
Too late I used sand. But I may end up going back and putting some cement in the cracks after a few rain showers.
So I finished the patio today. My body hurts from all the manual labor! :D
It turned out pretty good though. I dug too deep on accident, so I had to go back and buy more sand. And it slopes away from the house nicely..so hopefully the blocks don't settle too much.
Anyways, here's some more pics:
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1128/patiowork008wv2.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=patiowork008wv2.jpg)
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6599/patiowork009or9.th.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=patiowork009or9.jpg)
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9056/patiowork010lc9.th.jpg (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=patiowork010lc9.jpg)
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/4787/patiowork011tj9.th.jpg (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=patiowork011tj9.jpg)
Thanks to all of you for the tips and thoughts.
Soonrboy
4/6/2008, 10:12 PM
did you put the black weed blanket down? Nice job
OU4LIFE
4/7/2008, 07:45 AM
what, no smoker?
what kind of city-fied punk are you?
soonermix
4/7/2008, 02:21 PM
Here's my idea. My patio is relatively small. So here's what I'm thinking about doing instead of paying to have a larger slab poured.
I found some 16"x16" brick pavers/patio stones at Lowes.
Here's kind of what they look like:
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=100598429&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&PID=500871&cm_mmc=CJ-_-nextag-_-D28X-_-100598429&cpncode=12-44262961-2&URL=http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/BuildLinkToHomeDepot?linktype=product&id=100598429&cm_mmc=CJ-_-nextag-_-D28X-_-100598429&AID=10368321&cj=true&srccode=cii_9324560
I'm thinking about going about 2 rows out with those around my patio to enlarge the patio area. I bought one and laid it out there to see what it will look like. It looks nice.
So my question is have any of you ever done this at your homes? If so what's the best way to make it look nice but still keep from hitting my wallet too hard. I was thinking I'd dig the ground up a bit and make sure I level it out..then put weed mat down..then put a layer of sand on top of the weed mat, then lay the stones on top of that. Am I on the right path here with my idea??
Thanks to all for any help/tips.
if you need a supervisor i am there
(supervisor - read dude that sits and drinks beer while you work)
but for anybody else i am available to supervise any cook-outs or sporting events as well
OKLA21FAN
4/7/2008, 02:57 PM
Pic of your existing Patio slab and the Lawn around it .
we can help Ya better .
yeah, this thread is worthless without pics :pop:
olevetonahill
4/7/2008, 06:57 PM
yeah, this thread is worthless without pics :pop:
Ever think Of lookin at the Dates somethings posted ? :rolleyes:
StoopTroup
4/7/2008, 07:30 PM
It will look better the second time you do it.
did you put the black weed blanket down? Nice job
I used some thick brown weed blanket from Lowes
what, no smoker?
what kind of city-fied punk are you?
No smoker, I did buy a new stainless steel grill though. I'm exited about that.
It will look better the second time you do it.
Oh I don't see a second time of doing this project in my future.
OKC-SLC
4/8/2008, 12:28 AM
not bad for a homo.
olevetonahill
4/8/2008, 01:09 AM
No smoker, I did buy a new stainless steel grill though. I'm exited about that.
So you Left No Place fer the Plants ?
BudSooner
4/8/2008, 04:24 AM
I have nothing to add here.
not bad for a homo.
Post reported, I think that could be offensive to your boyfriend. :D ;)
I have nothing to add here.
Heh, so we got Olevet talking about "plants" and "bud"sooner chimes in by pleading the 5th.....
...wait a minute something's adding up here. Think we all just figured out the true meaning behind your name ;)
Anyways in regards to olevet's post...I may plant some flowers/plants around the edge of the patio to dress it up. That's gotta be easier than making another patio to place plants on. :D
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