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KC//CRIMSON
3/12/2008, 08:48 PM
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Will 'Top Chef' Top Itself?

The talent pool on 'Chef' runs deep in Chicago

We've had three seasons of Bravo's "Top Chef." Each one has gotten arguably better as the network wised up and chose a smattering of chefs with real skills to populate the program.

What will the fourth season bring?

Well, if the 16 contestants' resumes mean anything, this year (beginning 10 p.m. EST Wednesday) could be a dandy. Many of them have worked at some top-notch spots and appear to have real seasoning.

"I think this season is tougher ... because the talent pool is deeper," said Tom Colicchio, a well-known chef and judge on the show. "There are more contenders this year. These are good cooks without a doubt."

Colicchio said Bravo couldn't attract such talented people in the past because the show was taken lightly in culinary circles, and few with major cooking aspirations wanted to risk their reputation in a venue as derided as a back-stabbing reality show.

But that has changed.

"It has become respectable," Colicchio said. "A lot of the chefs who came in season four probably wouldn't have come out in season two. More and more talented chefs are coming out because the show is being taken seriously."

One of the reasons they're taking a chance on "Top Chef" rests with the guest judges. Last year, Eric Ripert, Daniel Boulud and Andre Soltner landed on the program, raising the stature of "Top Chef."

"I think that has really legitimized the show," said Colicchio, who owns the popular Craft steak houses.

Colicchio said contestants know they also have a shot at parlaying their fame into a restaurant like first-season winner Harold Dieterle. Colicchio doubts Dieterle could have opened Perilla in New York without the exposure he received by taking part in "Top Chef."

Colicchio, who helped vet the resumes, said he looked for pedigree. He found plenty.

Many of contestants have the credentials to go all the way, and in some cases, the egos to make for good television.

Richard Blais, Andrew D'Ambrosi, Dale Talde, Spike Mendelsohn and Manuel Trevino all seem to have the moxie and experience to take the title. Like their victorious predecessors, they've worked in some decent kitchens and withstood the pressure.

Trevino rose to sous chef at Mario Batali's Babbo, an Italian restaurant and one of New York's best. He's currently executive chef of a Mexican place named Dos Caminos. At Babbo, he worked with author Bill Buford for about a year.

Buford says Trevino, or Memo as he's known, "has got a crazy amount of talent, can't believe there are other chefs on the program who have more skills or (have) as much elegant lightness under pressure, and, probably most important, he has a genuine creative fire, a wildness that will result in his coming up with a dish so unexpected and brilliant that he will be a finalist, or else will result in some kind of equally unexpected flameout and make Memo just too damn hot to handle."

Buford, who penned the book "Heat" while slaving away at Babbo, added that Trevino gives the show "unexpected cred."

Like Trevino and Mendelsohn, D'Ambrosi is doing a stint at Le Cirque 2000, a legendary spot in Manhattan that recently revived its reputation after getting three stars in The New York Times (the paper took one away in 2006).

Talde is a sous chef at perennially packed Buddakan, a big operation that can turn out exceptional food when the kitchen is on its A game. He helped open restaurant Jean Georges Vong in Chicago, where the show takes place this season.

Mendelsohn works as the chef de cuisine at MAI-House. The Times named it one of the best restaurants in 2007. Mendelsohn could have some tricks up his sleeve after spending time at Les Crayeres in France, which has two Michelin stars, and Thomas Keller's Bouchon, a famous bistro in Napa Valley.

Blais' curriculum vitae is also impressive. According to Bravo, he "studied under luminaries such as Thomas Keller, Daniel Boulud and Ferran Adria." If he learned anything from those stints, the Atlantan could be formidable — though his knowledge of molecular gastronomy doesn't guarantee victory.

OK, so what about the women?

In three seasons, a woman has never won. A female chef has come close, landing in the finals on the first and third seasons.

This season, half the contestants are women. And there may be a dark horse among them like Lisa Fernandes. She cooked at the popular Public in lower Manhattan, and now is doing catering gigs while waiting for the "right opportunity."

"The female talent is huge," Fernandes said in an interview. "All I'm gonna say is that we started out with more women than any other season and walking in there and seeing that many women definitely got my hopes up."

But remember: The judges only care about one thing.

"I'm judging solely on who's making the best food," Colicchio said. "That's it."

This show is teh win and it starts tonight!:cool:

LilSooner
3/12/2008, 09:09 PM
so exciting I love this show.

OUAndy1807
3/12/2008, 10:49 PM
yeah, this years guys are exciting, but why did they have to start it off with that hack Rocko as a judge? I HATE him.

GottaHavePride
3/12/2008, 10:53 PM
I like the host chick lady. Hawt.

BigRedJed
3/12/2008, 10:54 PM
Bork Bork Bork!!

KC//CRIMSON
3/12/2008, 11:02 PM
Anthony Bourdain as a guest judge is comedy gold.

"Seriously, what were you thinking? You couldn't serve this in prison!"

KC//CRIMSON
3/28/2008, 01:33 PM
yeah, this years guys are exciting, but why did they have to start it off with that hack Rocko as a judge? I HATE him.

This group doesn't look as strong as it did in the first episode. I'd have to say at this point Richard is the front runner. And is it just me or is Spike and Andrew not the two most annoying contestants ever?

I keep waiting for Chef Colicchio to jump over the judges table and stick a pairing knife in their foreheads.

This is Top Chef not Top Wiggah!

stab! stab!

TUSooner
3/28/2008, 04:25 PM
I'm playing Fantasy Top Chef. Actually, it's my daughter's team against 2 colleagues from work.
Her chefs have won 2 of 3 elimination challenges, but she's still just in 2nd place. At least none of her 5 chefs have been eliminated yet, but I think her last pick - Ryan - is headed for the door soon.

KC//CRIMSON
3/28/2008, 08:53 PM
I'm playing Fantasy Top Chef. Actually, it's my daughter's team against 2 colleagues from work.
Her chefs have won 2 of 3 elimination challenges, but she's still just in 2nd place. At least none of her 5 chefs have been eliminated yet, but I think her last pick - Ryan - is headed for the door soon.

Fantasy Top Chef?

Man, you guys are hard core.

BigRedJed
3/28/2008, 08:56 PM
This thread turned out a hell of a lot better than your other one.

KC//CRIMSON
3/28/2008, 08:59 PM
This thread turned out a hell of a lot better than your other one.

* Bashing current players
* Whining about reputation
* Flamebaiting, including in signatures and avatars
* Posting inappropriate pictures (non-porn)
* Posting inappropriate pictures (porn)
* Personal attacks on members
* Hidden personal attacks via PM or reputation feature (spek comments)
* Stalking other posters
* Whining about mods/admins
* Posting drunk
* Erroneously reporting posts (post reporting is reserved for rules violations)
* Opposing team troll
* Spam


I'm gonna need you to red card yourself. Thanks.

BigRedJed
3/28/2008, 09:27 PM
Phhhhbt. You should get me for posting drunk.

:eddie:

SanJoaquinSooner
3/28/2008, 10:02 PM
What was he thinking? Corn dogs steaming for three hours?

He should have cut the dogs in bite sized pieces and made two or three fancy dipping sauces. Eff the little kids at the block party. you're fixing the sh!t for the judges.

KC//CRIMSON
3/28/2008, 10:28 PM
What was he thinking? Corn dogs steaming for three hours?

He should have cut the dogs in bite sized pieces and made two or three fancy dipping sauces. Eff the little kids at the block party. you're fixing the sh!t for the judges.

Bad idea.

He would have been better off serving Octopus hotdogs.

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KC//CRIMSON
4/14/2008, 08:55 PM
Good thing the lesbian couldn't cook, cause Richard was one salmon scale away from packing his knives.

Which would have sucked, because in my opinion he's one of the best chefs in the group. He just made a stupid mistake.

TUSooner
4/14/2008, 10:30 PM
Good thing the lesbian couldn't cook, cause Richard was one salmon scale away from packing his knives.

Which would have sucked, because in my opinion he's one of the best chefs in the group. He just made a stupid mistake.

I'm thinking he got a little slack based on past performances. I dunno. I'm also thinking he's still most likely to win it all.
Who's next to go?
I'm thinking Mark or Nikki or Spike, or maybe Antonia (who probably would have gotten cut if she hadn't won the quick fire). So far I have not lost a chef on my fantasy team, and my opponents are each down to 3. But I have Nikki, so my luck may run out this week.

soonerscuba
6/5/2008, 09:54 AM
Has there ever been anybody back door their way farther than Lisa? She is going to be crushed by Stephanie and Richard.

mdklatt
6/5/2008, 10:10 AM
Has there ever been anybody back door their way farther than Lisa? She is going to be crushed by Stephanie and Richard.

OMG, no kidding. At first I thought Casey didn't belong last year, but on reflection she actually did pretty well in the challenges (but she was still overmatched in the finale). Lisa, however, was on the chopping block more times than I could count. The finale should be Richard, Stephanie, and Dale.

Bone
6/5/2008, 12:55 PM
OMG, no kidding. At first I thought Casey didn't belong last year, but on reflection she actually did pretty well in the challenges (but she was still overmatched in the finale). Lisa, however, was on the chopping block more times than I could count. The finale should be Richard, Stephanie, and Dale.

Yes, Lisa should have been gone long ago. What was with all the lesbians this time anyway?