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Okla-homey
2/17/2008, 09:10 AM
Canada went and created a new province. They did so back in '99 and I was not consulted nor have I heard a word about it.:mad:

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Nunavut is the largest and newest territory of Canada; it was separated officially from the Northwest Territories on April 1, 1999 via the Nunavut Act and the Nunavut Land Claims Agreement Act, though the actual boundaries were established in 1993. The creation of Nunavut resulted in the first major change to Canada's map since the incorporation of the new province of Newfoundland and Labrador in 1949.

OU-HSV
2/17/2008, 09:14 AM
This is the first memo I've gotten. Oh well, what's this mean, another canadian hockey team or something? :D

Tailwind
2/17/2008, 09:38 AM
It's Canadia....who cares?

OCUDad
2/17/2008, 09:40 AM
I don't believe Nunavut. :rolleyes:

oklaclarinet
2/17/2008, 09:50 AM
I heard about it. I remember it being pretty big news back in the 90's. Plus, the Nunavut pieces were included in an update along with several other global boundary changes in the mid-90's for a magnetic globe I had back in junior high. (That, my friends, is the advantage of a magnetic globe. All you have to do is change a few pieces, and the globe is no longer out of date.)

sooner_born_1960
2/17/2008, 09:53 AM
I've got Jr. High kids, taking geography. I knew of Nunavut, but didn't realize there was anything new about it.

royalfan5
2/17/2008, 10:06 AM
I was aware of it.

reevie
2/17/2008, 10:08 AM
Wasn't it established to be an Inuit self-rule Province?

Jimminy Crimson
2/17/2008, 10:18 AM
I was aware of it.

Well, Nebraska is pretty much Canada light. ;)

OKC-SLC
2/17/2008, 10:44 AM
Looks like there's probably some oil there.

Let's get rolling.

SoonerStormchaser
2/17/2008, 11:00 AM
Wasn't it established to be an Inuit self-rule Province?

You are correct sir!

Harry Beanbag
2/17/2008, 11:04 AM
It's probably cold there.

KABOOKIE
2/17/2008, 11:42 AM
It's probably cold there.


NOT FOR LONG!!!!

Harry Beanbag
2/17/2008, 11:55 AM
NOT FOR LONG!!!!


Oh yeah, I forgot. http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/img/2006/ep25/gore03.jpg When the polar ice cap is completely melted in five years, Nunavut will be the size of Rhode Island. :)

OU-HSV
2/17/2008, 12:11 PM
Looks like there's probably some oil there.

Let's get rolling.
Word.
Job security for me.

SteelClip49
2/17/2008, 12:17 PM
Now it is its own province....but speaking of that, whart would you consider Wales? I know it's a region of England but I have talked with some who are familiar with the area and they almost recognize it as its own country. I know Cardiff is the main city (capital somewhat) but what exactly is it other than a region of England?

Also, I hate it when people say Greenland is a part of North America. Just because it's next to Canada and appears to be aligned with the rest of North America doesn't mean a damn thing. It's part of that little country known as Denmark. Sorry about that little rant; had a teacher in 6th grade that sent me to the principal's office for arguing with her saying it belonged to Denmark. She said it was under Canadian rule.

BTW, I love Geography.

BudSooner
2/17/2008, 12:22 PM
Damn! I was not consulted!!! I'll be right back, someone is gonna pay for leaving me out of the loop.

Vaevictis
2/17/2008, 12:54 PM
Now it is its own province....but speaking of that, whart would you consider Wales? I know it's a region of England but I have talked with some who are familiar with the area and they almost recognize it as its own country. I know Cardiff is the main city (capital somewhat) but what exactly is it other than a region of England?

Well, they call it the United Kingdom for a reason.

It's the United Kingdoms of England, Wales, Scotland and (kind of...) Northern Ireland.

EDIT: Wales is not a region of England. Basically, each of the Kingdoms is united under the English throne by right of conquest and primogeniture. But all were independent nations and separate peoples, with their own cultures and languages.

Jimminy Crimson
2/17/2008, 01:03 PM
Wales is not a region of England.

Correct.

They're an attraction at Sea World! :dolemite:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/LongJohn81/shamu-1a.jpg

SteelClip49
2/17/2008, 01:08 PM
You know, I never really did understand the exact UNITED KINGDOM label other than thinking it was just another name to say other than Great Britain, if that's correct. Now I know it's a region and now thinking about it, I have no idea why I labeled it a region....hell..The Great Plains, The Great Lakes are examples of region; Wales is well not a region. Edinburgh, Dublin, London are capitals but what would Cardiff be labeled as? BTW, thanks Vaevictis.

Vaevictis
2/17/2008, 01:11 PM
but what would Cardiff be labeled as?

Well, if you believe Wikipedia, it's the capital of Wales. :D

Vaevictis
2/17/2008, 01:19 PM
Canada went and created a new province. They did so back in '99 and I was not consulted nor have I heard a word about it.:mad:

And yeah, I got the memo. My wife has a friend who was in charge of disaster management in Nunavut directly after the new borders were installed. I heard all about it.

Canada gives a lot of benefits to their natives. This is just one more.

Jimminy Crimson
2/17/2008, 01:19 PM
Well, if you believe Wikipedia, it's the capital of Wales. :D

[citation needed] ;)

Whet
2/17/2008, 01:24 PM
I'll look for that e-mail memo I received, but it is on an old hard drive. So, it will take some time to find and convert it........

SteelClip49
2/17/2008, 01:25 PM
I was actually going off Wikipedia and was going to reference it in here but I know to some people, especially college professors, they curse the site. I have a huge National Georgraphic world atlas that I use a lot just to look at and draw my own maps but if I am really desperate for an answer my last resort is to use Wikipedia.

Jimminy Crimson
2/17/2008, 01:29 PM
I was actually going off Wikipedia and was going to reference it in here but I know to some people, especially college professors, they curse the site. I have a huge National Georgraphic world atlas that I use a lot just to look at and draw my own maps but if I am really desperate for an answer my last resort is to use Wikipedia.

Because it takes their place? :texan:

KaiserSooner
2/17/2008, 02:20 PM
Being anal retentive and a geography freak (it was my major) ;), here's my two cents:

1.) Nunavut is not a province. It's a territory, just like the Northwest Territories and Yukon Territory.

2.) Greenland, physically, is a part of the North American continent, but Denmark, politically, maintains suzerainty over it.

3.) Wales. This one is a little bit more complicated, but Cardiff is the "capital" of Wales, culturally, historically, and (since 1999) politically. When the Scottish voted to restore the Scottish parliament in 1998, the Welsh voted to establish an elected "assembly."

The "United Kingdom" historically refers to the political union of England, Scotland, and Ireland...this is why the Union Jack has three crosses on it, each representing these three entities: Cross of St. George, Cross of St. Andrew, and the Cross of St. Patrick.

The "UK" developed over, I think, several hundred years along three major milestones:

1.) the accession of the Scottish king (King James) to the English throne in the 17th century.

2.) the Union Acts of 1707. Though England and Scotland had the same monarch, both remained independent, sovereign states until 1707. This act created one state, the Kingdom of Great Britain.

3.) another Union Act around 1800. This is where the term "United Kingdom" is first used. It united the whole of Ireland to Great Britain (basically a forced union, after the Brits conquered Ireland), thus creating the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland."

Where Wales comes in all this? Well, they don't actually. Through all this union stuff, Wales was basically treated as a part of England, and that's because England conquered(?) or took control of(?) Wales way the hell before any of this....I'm guessing around the time of William the Conqueror, but I'm not sure exactly.

Mixer!
2/17/2008, 02:58 PM
I don't believe Nunavut. :rolleyes:
BOOOOOOOO!











:D

Rogue
2/17/2008, 05:08 PM
So, Great Britain is the island including England, Wales, and Scotland? Add in Ireland and NI and it's the UK? :confused:

As a license plate collector, I'm now going to have to look for a Nunavut plate. Probably make about 10 a year up there. Maybe I'll have better luck looking for a snowmobile plate. :cool:

Frozen Sooner
2/17/2008, 05:22 PM
Not surprisingly, yes, I was aware of Nunavut.

Scott D
2/17/2008, 05:32 PM
So, Great Britain is the island including England, Wales, and Scotland? Add in Ireland and NI and it's the UK? :confused:

As a license plate collector, I'm now going to have to look for a Nunavut plate. Probably make about 10 a year up there. Maybe I'll have better luck looking for a snowmobile plate. :cool:

Pretty sure it's not Ireland, just Northern Ireland in the UK. It could be the other way around though.

Scott D
2/17/2008, 05:34 PM
Being anal retentive and a geography freak (it was my major) ;), here's my two cents:

1.) Nunavut is not a province. It's a territory, just like the Northwest Territories and Yukon Territory.

2.) Greenland, physically, is a part of the North American continent, but Denmark, politically, maintains suzerainty over it.

3.) Wales. This one is a little bit more complicated, but Cardiff is the "capital" of Wales, culturally, historically, and (since 1999) politically. When the Scottish voted to restore the Scottish parliament in 1998, the Welsh voted to establish an elected "assembly."

The "United Kingdom" historically refers to the political union of England, Scotland, and Ireland...this is why the Union Jack has three crosses on it, each representing these three entities: Cross of St. George, Cross of St. Andrew, and the Cross of St. Patrick.

The "UK" developed over, I think, several hundred years along three major milestones:

1.) the accession of the Scottish king (King James) to the English throne in the 17th century.

2.) the Union Acts of 1707. Though England and Scotland had the same monarch, both remained independent, sovereign states until 1707. This act created one state, the Kingdom of Great Britain.

3.) another Union Act around 1800. This is where the term "United Kingdom" is first used. It united the whole of Ireland to Great Britain (basically a forced union, after the Brits conquered Ireland), thus creating the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland."

Where Wales comes in all this? Well, they don't actually. Through all this union stuff, Wales was basically treated as a part of England, and that's because England conquered(?) or took control of(?) Wales way the hell before any of this....I'm guessing around the time of William the Conqueror, but I'm not sure exactly.

The "conquering" of Wales, was in the 1400s I believe.

silverwheels
2/17/2008, 05:40 PM
Pretty sure it's not Ireland, just Northern Ireland in the UK. It could be the other way around though.

It's Northern Ireland.

TheHumanAlphabet
2/17/2008, 06:53 PM
I have had to deal with Nunavit on the most recent project. It most likely wont go becuase all of the aboriginals (the term cannucks use) want a lot for the pipeline, gas gathering plant and gas wells to be placed in their territory and there are like 5 or 6 major tribes to deal with - all wanting the same. The Federal Government hasn't been working this as hard as they need to and let the private companies deal with it. Now we have moth-balled the project becuase there is no consensus. The federal government will need to show some leadership, but that is difficult in the loose federation of Canada over the provinces.

Interesting note. Since the cultures there are verbal, not written. They do not have a strong written comprehension as other Canadians. We were developing video or computer based video training and field and maintenance procedures to accomodate their preferred modes of communication.

Harry Beanbag
2/17/2008, 07:45 PM
Not surprisingly, yes, I was aware of Nunavut.


Of course, you live there don't you? ;)

Okla-homey
2/17/2008, 08:02 PM
It's Northern Ireland.

Here's the way it was explained to by my RAF colleagues while I was chillin' in the Officers Mess at RAF Fairford in East Anglia back during the good old days when Ronaldus Maximus reined over the Free World.

Great Britain includes only the nations which exist on the island occupied by England, Scotland and Wales.

The United Kingdom, or UK is comprised of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland which is across the narrow North Channel and Irish Sea from Britain where Scotland, England and Wales are physically located.

Okla-homey
2/17/2008, 08:04 PM
I have had to deal with Nunavit on the most recent project. It most likely wont go becuase all of the aboriginals (the term cannucks use) want a lot for the pipeline, gas gathering plant and gas wells to be placed in their territory and there are like 5 or 6 major tribes to deal with - all wanting the same. The Federal Government hasn't been working this as hard as they need to and let the private companies deal with it. Now we have moth-balled the project becuase there is no consensus. The federal government will need to show some leadership, but that is difficult in the loose federation of Canada over the provinces.

Interesting note. Since the cultures there are verbal, not written. They do not have a strong written comprehension as other Canadians. We were developing video or computer based video training and field and maintenance procedures to accomodate their preferred modes of communication.

I think they're smart for holding out. They are so far off the beaten path they aren't going to be able to make much off casinos.;)

AlbqSooner
2/17/2008, 09:38 PM
Of course, you live there don't you? ;)
Actually he lives in the land of the Yupiks.

StoopTroup
2/17/2008, 09:43 PM
Wonder if it gets cold there?

Frozen Sooner
2/17/2008, 10:21 PM
Actually he lives in the land of the Yupiks.

Tanaina Athabaskan, actually. The Yup'ik were traditionally a little more westerly. :D

crawfish
2/18/2008, 09:34 AM
Here's the way it was explained to by my RAF colleagues while I was chillin' in the Officers Mess at RAF Fairford in East Anglia back during the good old days when Ronaldus Maximus reined over the Free World.

Great Britain includes only the nations which exist on the island occupied by England, Scotland and Wales.

The United Kingdom, or UK is comprised of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland which is across the narrow North Channel and Irish Sea from Britain where Scotland, England and Wales are physically located.

Here's a Euler diagram of that:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2050/2242404363_3a9dc61bb5_o.gif

Vaevictis
2/18/2008, 10:34 AM
Here's a Euler diagram of that:

I am in awe of your geekery.

TheHumanAlphabet
2/18/2008, 10:44 AM
^^^^^^^^^^
That's some funny!!!

OKLA21FAN
2/18/2008, 10:50 AM
Canada went and created a new province. They did so back in '99 and I was not consulted nor have I heard a word about it.:mad:



We also need to talk about your TPS reports :pop:

soonerbrat
2/18/2008, 11:22 AM
why in the world would anyone even live there? seriously?

Okla-homey
2/18/2008, 01:27 PM
Here's a Euler diagram of that:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2050/2242404363_3a9dc61bb5_o.gif

NAILED IT!

Frozen Sooner
2/18/2008, 01:47 PM
why in the world would anyone even live there? seriously?

Tradition. Self-governance. Community.

TheHumanAlphabet
2/18/2008, 01:56 PM
Tanaina Athabaskan, actually. The Yup'ik were traditionally a little more westerly. :D

The Del Chos (?) are one of the groups the project had to deal with...Haven't heard of the above groups.

Frozen Sooner
2/18/2008, 02:00 PM
The Del Chos (?) are one of the groups the project had to deal with...Haven't heard of the above groups.

I'm pretty sure you've heard of Athabaskans, though you've probably heard them referred to by their individual tribal name. Navahos, Hopis, and Apaches are all Athabaskan (Athapascan, Athabascan, etc) tribes.

The Tanaina were mainly settled around Southcentral Alaska.

Vaevictis
2/18/2008, 02:04 PM
why in the world would anyone even live there? seriously?

1. IIRC, there's money to be made in oil, gas, whatever up there. Someone's gotta pull it out of the ground and take it to market.
2. It's the homeland of a bunch of native americans, and Canadian law tries to stay out of the way of interfering with natives who want to live their traditional way of life. (eg, stuff that's illegal for everyone else -- say, hunting out of season, or hunting certain species -- is legal for natives living/operating in the traditional fashion).
3. Some people like harsh environments?

silverwheels
2/18/2008, 02:35 PM
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the official title.

TheHumanAlphabet
2/18/2008, 03:04 PM
I'm pretty sure you've heard of Athabaskans, though you've probably heard them referred to by their individual tribal name. Navahos, Hopis, and Apaches are all Athabaskan (Athapascan, Athabascan, etc) tribes.

The Tanaina were mainly settled around Southcentral Alaska.

Well, put it that way...;) I am not well versed in the verbiage of native/aboriginal lineage.