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Okla-homey
2/5/2008, 09:58 PM
NPR just called the Sooner State for McCain. There you have it. I predict it will be John vs. the Clintons in November.

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Jimminy Crimson
2/5/2008, 10:00 PM
As expected.

Sooners for McCain!

LosAngelesSooner
2/5/2008, 10:05 PM
:D:D:D

Let the meltdown begin.

:D:D:D

Howzit
2/5/2008, 10:06 PM
deer lowered.

oumartin
2/5/2008, 10:07 PM
http://f.freeblog.hu/f/i/l/filmbuzi/files/film2007/live-free-or-die-hard-4-poster.jpg



Oh, you said McCain, my bad

LosAngelesSooner
2/5/2008, 10:08 PM
:D

GottaHavePride
2/5/2008, 10:10 PM
I'm'a just call it McClintock.

tommieharris91
2/5/2008, 10:11 PM
Typical dumb rednecks... ohh wait.

I voted for Romney!

olevetonahill
2/5/2008, 10:12 PM
I thot Homey Done said that .
Mods Can we get a ruling ?

olevetonahill
2/5/2008, 10:14 PM
Why Isnt RLIMC in here celebratin with us ?
:confused:

Scott D
2/5/2008, 10:15 PM
this isn't news.

Wake me up when they announce that McCain wins Arizona. Then we can put RLimC on suicide watch.

CatfishSooner
2/5/2008, 10:21 PM
McCain...my friend!

SanJoaquinSooner
2/5/2008, 10:24 PM
...and Clinton carries Oklahoma.


Obama and Romney are just too liberal for the sooner state.

usmc-sooner
2/5/2008, 10:38 PM
I remember a poster who had his cut and paste obsession with Bush and had numerous meltdown's over it. Now he wants to throw it in RLIMC face now.

oumartin
2/5/2008, 10:38 PM
You said now twice in the same sentence!

usmc-sooner
2/5/2008, 10:42 PM
I did not say meow

Octavian
2/5/2008, 10:45 PM
Wow. With about 90% of the Oklahoma precincts reporting...


1. Clinton - 202,000

2. Obama - 118,000

3. McCain -102,000

4. Huckabee - 90,000


http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard/?d=OK

CatfishSooner
2/5/2008, 10:56 PM
why more dems vote?

CatfishSooner
2/5/2008, 11:00 PM
A great reason to take the votes away from women if there ever was one.


that's not very nice...

Shneeg11
2/5/2008, 11:02 PM
...and Clinton carries Oklahoma.


Obama and Romney are just too liberal for the sooner state.

I hope that is a joke about Romney being more liberal than McCain.

olevetonahill
2/5/2008, 11:04 PM
You said now twice in the same sentence!
Now Now brown Cow .

oumartin
2/5/2008, 11:05 PM
its How Now you heel billie! :D

r5TPsooner
2/5/2008, 11:08 PM
Clinton will be the next POTUS because McCain isn't strong enough to beat her.

KaiserSooner
2/5/2008, 11:13 PM
why more dems vote?

Because there's something like twice as many registered Democrats in Oklahoma as registered Republicans.

olevetonahill
2/5/2008, 11:15 PM
Clinton will be the next POTUS because McCain isn't strong enough to beat her.
McCain would beat her like a , Nevar mind

olevetonahill
2/5/2008, 11:16 PM
its How Now you heel billie! :D
well Hell It sounded good to My drunkass . :P

oumartin
2/5/2008, 11:17 PM
Your @ss drinks beer?

olevetonahill
2/5/2008, 11:18 PM
Because there's something like twice as many registered Democrats in Oklahoma as registered Republicans.
HEH when a certain poster gets outta skool a law firm will hire him . Cause folks like him are Fun to watch .

olevetonahill
2/5/2008, 11:19 PM
Your @ss drinks beer?
C-P does a wonderful beer enimey ;)

oumartin
2/5/2008, 11:19 PM
Do you also own a fempertrain?

KaiserSooner
2/5/2008, 11:38 PM
Originally Posted by KaiserSooner
Because there's something like twice as many registered Democrats in Oklahoma as registered Republicans.

HEH when a certain poster gets outta skool a law firm will hire him . Cause folks like him are Fun to watch .

???

I'm guessing you're not familiar with Oklahoma's voter registration numbers.

olevetonahill
2/5/2008, 11:40 PM
???

I'm guessing you're not familiar with Oklahoma's voter registration numbers.
Whats that got to do with Hiring Idiots cause they Fun to watch ?

mdklatt
2/5/2008, 11:50 PM
Does this mean that Oklahoma hates America? :confused:

olevetonahill
2/5/2008, 11:53 PM
Does this mean that Oklahoma hates America? :confused:
No, just them 49 other states.

OUbones
2/5/2008, 11:53 PM
Yes, yes it does.

CatfishSooner
2/6/2008, 12:02 AM
Whats that got to do with Hiring Idiots cause they Fun to watch ?



ignorant hillbilly

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/6/2008, 12:56 AM
NPR just called the... You listen to NPR!

Mixer!
2/6/2008, 01:38 AM
My question for the GOP voters: why McCain over Huckabee & Romney?

tommieharris91
2/6/2008, 01:59 AM
Heck if I know. I hope Obama wins so I can vote for him.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/6/2008, 02:03 AM
IMO, a combination of 1) Many being uninformed or misinformed, and 2) The republican party is not as solidly conservative as it used to be.

olevetonahill
2/6/2008, 02:09 AM
IMO, a combination of 1) Many being uninformed or misinformed, and 2) The republican party is not as solidly conservative as it used to be.
So ur sayin we are happy that John won ? right ?
By Gawd I cant wait till You an I can Go Out and Help him WIN .
I get all tingley just thinking about it

Lets Go Rush
You and me for McCain .

LosAngelesSooner
2/6/2008, 02:18 AM
2) The republican party is not as solidly conservative as it used to be.Thank God...

Big Red Ron
2/6/2008, 06:14 AM
Clinton will be the next POTUS because McCain isn't strong enough to beat her.eh, wrong.

Big Red Ron
2/6/2008, 06:18 AM
1) there are more Dem's in Oklahoma than Repubs.

2) Romney might finish third.

3) Imagine if Huck had Mitt's $$

Big Red Ron
2/6/2008, 06:20 AM
Oh, and RLIMC, Arizona???

soonerhubs
2/6/2008, 09:48 AM
1) there are more Dem's in Oklahoma than Repubs.

2) Romney might finish third.

3) Imagine if Mitt had Huck's Religious affiliation.

Fixed it. I hate to say it, but Romney's money has kept him in this race in spite of the fact that the Bible belt knows he's a Mormon. You can't say that doesn't become a factor.

frankensooner
2/6/2008, 10:39 AM
Fixed it. I hate to say it, but Romney's money has kept him in this race in spite of the fact that the Bible belt knows he's a Mormon. You can't say that doesn't become a factor.

It is a lot like when Al Smith ran for President in 1928. A lot of people were afraid to vote for a Catholic.




People are ignorant, a lot.

I said a lot, a lot.

r5TPsooner
2/6/2008, 10:42 AM
eh, wrong.


Wanna wager a bottle of Scotch on that comment?

Civicus_Sooner
2/6/2008, 11:44 AM
heh

85Sooner
2/6/2008, 12:53 PM
IMO, a combination of 1) Many being uninformed or misinformed, and 2) The republican party is not as solidly conservative as it used to be.


And the Dem Party is more and more full of nuts, wackos, socialists, communists etc etc etc and has chased the non nutty liberals to the republicans and they are taking a toll on the conservative base because they are generally uninformed, ignorant and or simply have no common sense.

Scott D
2/6/2008, 01:04 PM
And the Dem Party is more and more full of nuts, wackos, socialists, communists etc etc etc and has chased the non nutty liberals to the republicans and they are taking a toll on the conservative base because they are generally uninformed, ignorant and or simply have no common sense.

character traits you are quite familiar with based upon your behavior on this forum.

85Sooner
2/6/2008, 01:19 PM
character traits you are quite familiar with based upon your behavior on this forum.

Prove me wrong!

Scott D
2/6/2008, 01:22 PM
What? that you generally act uninformed, ignorant, and simply have no common sense? I don't need to prove that wrong, your posts make it blatantly obvious.

85Sooner
2/6/2008, 01:27 PM
That is intelligent, Can you do anything but call nameslike a dem or can you prove me wrong on any fact? You do know what a fact is right? Or am my calling out of Hill what is bothering you.

soonerhubs
2/6/2008, 01:29 PM
Is it possible McCain could align with a fiscal conservative like Romney as his running mate? That would easily sway my vote.

Scott D
2/6/2008, 01:30 PM
you didn't state any facts, you stated an opinion. It's probably not even your own opinion, but rather an opinion you took from a talking head who claims to not be part of this evil MSM you guys like to trump up, despite the fact that being a talking head makes them part of this evil MSM.

The American public is generally uninformed. And it will remain that way for two reasons. One, it wants to. Two, it's just easier to believe anything (insert favorite talking head here) wants to tell you based upon who has paid for them at the time.

And nice try, but I'm not a democrat slappy. Supporting either party means you support the same old ****. So good on you.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/6/2008, 01:34 PM
Is it possible McCain could align with a fiscal conservative like Romney as his running mate? That would easily sway my vote.Romney accepting a VP gig with McCain would mean I would never be able to trust Romney in future politics.

Scott D
2/6/2008, 01:35 PM
Romney accepting a VP gig with McCain would mean I would never be able to trust Romney in future politics.

The fact that you're willing to trust him now should be a major wake up call.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/6/2008, 01:42 PM
The fact that you're willing to trust him now should be a major wake up call.I absolutely don't trust McCain. He has proven to be a liberal in congress, going with democrats on far too many issues. Romnery is talking conservative on the issues. McCain doesn't even talk conservatism. He stands by all his sorry-as*ed sponsored legislation, and will have his head on a plate in November.

Scott D
2/6/2008, 01:57 PM
I absolutely don't trust McCain. He has proven to be a liberal in congress, going with democrats on far too many issues. Romnery is talking conservative on the issues. McCain doesn't even talk conservatism. He stands by all his sorry-as*ed sponsored legislation, and will have his head on a plate in November.

See here's a simple fact that you, and 85, and Ann Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh, and Al Franken, and Hillary Clinton, and Michelle Malkin, and Dan Rather, and Bob Dobalina fail to comprehend.

The nameplate over the words "President of the United States" means nothing. They have very little to no real power. The Tail has been wagging the Dog for the better part of the last half century.

Your talking heads don't want the truth. The truth being that our Government is in such a need for an enema, that any nurse would have trouble inserting it because the fearmongering has put the pucker factor at "coal into diamond" range.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/6/2008, 02:18 PM
I think Karl Rove is dead on about this. If Billary gets the nomination, it won't matter who the GOP nominates, they will turn out in mass to watch that bitch go down in flames. That is the only thing that will excite the base and unify the coalition.Hillary or Obama don't inflame as much as McCain, since he has been a key element in the destruction of the republican party.

Tear Down This Wall
2/6/2008, 03:29 PM
Thank God...

The Republican Party has never been as conservative as the morons on talk radio make it sound like. And the idiots in the liberal media think that anyone who wants to protect unborn children is on the fringe.

So, normal people with lives, jobs, and families get a constant earful of stupidity about "what Republicans believe" from the Left and Right.

Immigration? Hey, if it was that big a deal, why didn't Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo gain any traction...or, in the past, Pat Buchanan (by the way, to show you how far I've come politically, I worked a phone bank for Buchanan in 1996...yes, I was that stupid and misguided at one point in my life).

Taxes? If everyone was a penny-pinching miser, why can't Ron Paul get any traction with anyone other than (1) people who believe in UFOs, and (2) people who don't yet know that countries other than America have nuclear missles, or are rapidly trying to get them.

Iraq? Well, if it's so dadgum unpopular with anyone, explain John McCain beating everyone by going out and saying, "I won't pull us out" like some kind of deranged Catholic reassuring his wife on their honeymoon.

Look, there are many types of people who vote Republican. You don't have to listen to talk radio every waking minute of the day, buy every Ann Coulter book that comes down the pike, and keep FOX News on 24 hours a day to be a Republican.

All you have to do is realize this - one party is for bigger government, the nurder of unborn children, and ignoring what goes on in the world until planes are flown by bedsheet-wearing, modern day Baalists (Democrats), and the other is for a more limited government (but not to the point of anarchy), giving babies in the womb a chance, and protecting the borders even if it means going and kicking someone else's butt on their turf instead of here to eliminate them as a threat (Republicans).

Behold me...I am educated, I am gainfully employed, I have a wife and two kids, I eat fried chicken with my hands and with the delicious crusty skin still on it (unless Robot-ney), I may fart silently in the elevator if you get in talking too loudly on your cellphone...I am REPUBLICAN!

SicEmBaylor
2/6/2008, 03:32 PM
Hillary or Obama don't inflame as much as McCain, since he has been a key element in the destruction of the republican party.

I've decided this morning that I am almost unquestionably voting Democratic in the Fall.

I would rather McCain fail than see his views and policy positions validated within the party by winning. It's a net benefit to conservatism if we all vote Democratic.

LosAngelesSooner
2/6/2008, 03:49 PM
Hillary or Obama don't inflame as much as McCain, since he has been a key element in the destruction of the republican party.BWAA-HAA-HAA-HAA-HAA!

Yeah. It was McCain who got us into this mess. It wasn't the militant evangelical right with it's overlegislation from the pulpit, nation building, deficit spending, fear mongering and polarization in politics. It wasn't the most unpopular President in recent US history in Bush with failed policies and a disaster of a war.

Nope. It was a single Senator from Arizona. :rolleyes:

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/6/2008, 03:50 PM
I've decided this morning that I am almost unquestionably voting Democratic in the Fall.

I would rather McCain fail than see his views and policy positions validated within the party by winning. It's a net benefit to conservatism if we all vote Democratic.So, we are the first two to sign up for the Second American Civil War?

SicEmBaylor
2/6/2008, 03:54 PM
So, we are the first two to sign up for the Second American Civil War?

Only if my state determines on that course!

LosAngelesSooner
2/6/2008, 03:55 PM
The Republican Party has never been as conservative as the morons on talk radio make it sound like. And the idiots in the liberal media think that anyone who wants to protect unborn children is on the fringe.

So, normal people with lives, jobs, and families get a constant earful of stupidity about "what Republicans believe" from the Left and Right.

Immigration? Hey, if it was that big a deal, why didn't Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo gain any traction...or, in the past, Pat Buchanan (by the way, to show you how far I've come politically, I worked a phone bank for Buchanan in 1996...yes, I was that stupid and misguided at one point in my life).

Taxes? If everyone was a penny-pinching miser, why can't Ron Paul get any traction with anyone other than (1) people who believe in UFOs, and (2) people who don't yet know that countries other than America have nuclear missles, or are rapidly trying to get them.

Iraq? Well, if it's so dadgum unpopular with anyone, explain John McCain beating everyone by going out and saying, "I won't pull us out" like some kind of deranged Catholic reassuring his wife on their honeymoon.

Look, there are many types of people who vote Republican. You don't have to listen to talk radio every waking minute of the day, buy every Ann Coulter book that comes down the pike, and keep FOX News on 24 hours a day to be a Republican.
Hey, you're preaching to the choir. In fact I take it a step further and personally go by the founding principles of the Republican Party. That's why I've remained a Republican even through these thin times when I disagree heartily with the lock-step followers on the extreme right.


All you have to do is realize this - one party is for bigger government, the nurder of unborn children, and ignoring what goes on in the world until planes are flown by bedsheet-wearing, modern day Baalists (Democrats), and the other is for a more limited government (but not to the point of anarchy), giving babies in the womb a chance, and protecting the borders even if it means going and kicking someone else's butt on their turf instead of here to eliminate them as a threat (Republicans).
Well, here's where you lose me. The Republican Party is SUPPOSED to be about smaller, limited, government...but under Bush it's been anything but. In fact Bush has made Clinton's Presidency look Republican by comparison. I also take umberage with saying that the Democrats don't recognize the terrorist threat or that they're modern day Baalists. Come on, man...


Behold me...I am educated, I am gainfully employed, I have a wife and two kids, I eat fried chicken with my hands and with the delicious crusty skin still on it (unless Robot-ney), I may fart silently in the elevator if you get in talking too loudly on your cellphone...I am REPUBLICAN!Damn...I wish I could eat the crusty skin on the delicious fried chicken...but my girlfriend has me on this damn diet... :(

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/6/2008, 04:00 PM
Only if my state determines on that course!Hell, both our states could soon be part of Mexico. What would you do, then?

SicEmBaylor
2/6/2008, 04:04 PM
Hell, both our states could soon be part of Mexico. What would you do, then?
Learn how to be a construction worker.

Okla-homey
2/6/2008, 06:32 PM
I've decided this morning that I am almost unquestionably voting Democratic in the Fall.

I would rather McCain fail than see his views and policy positions validated within the party by winning. It's a net benefit to conservatism if we all vote Democratic.

Then good riddance and don't let the door hit you on the way out! Now is the time for the true conservatives who constitue the silent majority to rejoice the wacko extremists and assorted Hitler Jugend are loading up their kubelwagens and abandoning the Party of Lincoln for parts unknown.

Psssssssst. Don't tell any of your "LOS"ur cronies you're voting for Hillary or Obama or they're liable to drum you out of their neo-Confederacy. Heck, they might even get a rope.;)

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/6/2008, 06:51 PM
Then good riddance and don't let the door hit you on the way out! Now is the time for the true conservatives who constitue the silent majority to rejoice the wacko extremists and assorted Hitler Jugend are loading up their kubelwagens and abandoning the Party of Lincoln for parts unknown.

Psssssssst. Don't tell any of your "LOS"ur cronies you're voting for Hillary or Obama or they're liable to drum you out of their neo-Confederacy. Heck, they might even get a rope.;)from NPR?

Mixer!
2/6/2008, 07:35 PM
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SicEmBaylor
2/6/2008, 07:57 PM
Then good riddance and don't let the door hit you on the way out! Now is the time for the true conservatives who constitue the silent majority to rejoice the wacko extremists and assorted Hitler Jugend are loading up their kubelwagens and abandoning the Party of Lincoln for parts unknown.

Psssssssst. Don't tell any of your "LOS"ur cronies you're voting for Hillary or Obama or they're liable to drum you out of their neo-Confederacy. Heck, they might even get a rope.;)

Good riddance, eha? Well you're definitely a McCain supporter.

McCain and his supporters are going to wish they didn't say "good riddance" to the conservative base of the GOP when he realizes he can't win an election without them.

r5TPsooner
2/6/2008, 08:04 PM
Why in the hell would anyone who even remotely claiming to be a Republican, in the tiniest bit, not vote for McCain and let the Clinton's have the White House for another four years?

McCain isn't my 1st choice either, actually... he's my 3rd choice. But there is no way in God's green earth, that I don't vote for him against Hilary Clinton.

I would either have to be dead or in a coma to let that sh*t happen!

SicEmBaylor
2/6/2008, 08:09 PM
Why in the hell would anyone who even remotely claiming to be a Republican, in the tiniest bit, not vote for McCain and let the Clinton's have the White House for another four years?

McCain isn't my 1st choice either, actually... he's my 3rd choice. But there is no way in God's green earth, that I don't vote for him against Hilary Clinton.

I would either have to be dead or in a coma to let that sh*t happen!

It depends on what you want by voting for a Republican. If your ultimate end is simply to elect a Republican then you would vote for McCain.

My ultimate end is to see the triumph of conservatism which sometimes means accepting short-term setbacks in exchange for long term gains. McCain is not a true conservative by any stretch of the imagination. If he were to win the election then he would legitimize his brand of conservatism which is fundamentally different than my own. Enough harm has already been done to conservatism by the disastrous presidency of George W. Bush. I believe a McCain Presidency would finally bury what is left of the old-right.

Therefore, I'd rather Hillary win in the short term then have a fake conservative legitimized with a win. This rests on the theory though that a TRUE electable conservative will be nominated in 2012 which is a big gamble, but I'm going to roll the dice.

r5TPsooner
2/6/2008, 08:10 PM
It depends on what you want by voting for a Republican. If your ultimate end is simply to elect a Republican then you would vote for McCain.

My ultimate end is to see the triumph of conservatism which sometimes means accepting short-term setbacks in exchange for long term gains. McCain is not a true conservative by any stretch of the imagination. If he were to win the election then he would legitimize his brand of conservatism which is fundamentally different than my own. Enough harm has already been done to conservatism by the disastrous presidency of George W. Bush. I believe a McCain Presidency would finally bury what is left of the old-right.

Therefore, I'd rather Hillary win in the short term then have a fake conservatives politics legitimized with a win. This rests on the theory though that a TRUE electable conservative will be nominated in 2012 which is a big gamble, but I'm going to roll the dice.


ummmm, ok.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/6/2008, 08:38 PM
It depends on what you want by voting for a Republican. If your ultimate end is simply to elect a Republican then you would vote for McCain.

My ultimate end is to see the triumph of conservatism which sometimes means accepting short-term setbacks in exchange for long term gains. McCain is not a true conservative by any stretch of the imagination. If he were to win the election then he would legitimize his brand of conservatism which is fundamentally different than my own. Enough harm has already been done to conservatism by the disastrous presidency of George W. Bush. I believe a McCain Presidency would finally bury what is left of the old-right.

Therefore, I'd rather Hillary win in the short term then have a fake conservative legitimized with a win. This rests on the theory though that a TRUE electable conservative will be nominated in 2012 which is a big gamble, but I'm going to roll the dice.It's the only thing we haven't yet done, to let the party know it's not conservative anymore, and consequently not acceptable in its present state. I don't want Hillary or Obama any more than anybody on this board, but I can't honestly vote for McCain.

SicEmBaylor
2/6/2008, 08:41 PM
Someday Pat Buchanan will come back and make everything okay. And he'll say, "SicEm, fear not, for I am the light of the right and shall show you the way."

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/6/2008, 08:53 PM
Someday Pat Buchanan will come back and make everything okay. And he'll say, "SicEm, fear not, for I am the light of the right and shall show you the way."You were doing just fine til you advocated Pat Buchanan...again. Anybody that chooses a (literally)communist for a running mate when running for pres. is a freakin' lame brain.

SicEmBaylor
2/6/2008, 09:13 PM
You were doing just fine til you advocated Pat Buchanan...again. Anybody that chooses a (literally)communist for a running mate when running for pres. is a freakin' lame brain.
What communist running mate are you talking about? I've already responded to this once.

Ezy Foster is about as conservative as you can get and the idea that she is a communist is just beyond absurd.

GottaHavePride
2/6/2008, 09:16 PM
I'd vote for Barack Obama.

I'd vote for damn near anyone running opposite Hillary Clinton.

If there was a viable candidate from a third party that had a chance in hell of sniffing an electoral vote, I'd vote for them, because above all I think the "either-or" logical fallacy of the two-party system is running this country straight into the ground.

stoops the eternal pimp
2/6/2008, 09:19 PM
I think the "either-or" logical fallacy of the two-party system is running this country straight into the ground.


the truest words of the political season

Okla-homey
2/6/2008, 10:20 PM
It depends on what you want by voting for a Republican. If your ultimate end is simply to elect a Republican then you would vote for McCain.

My ultimate end is to see the triumph of conservatism which sometimes means accepting short-term setbacks in exchange for long term gains. McCain is not a true conservative by any stretch of the imagination. If he were to win the election then he would legitimize his brand of conservatism which is fundamentally different than my own. Enough harm has already been done to conservatism by the disastrous presidency of George W. Bush. I believe a McCain Presidency would finally bury what is left of the old-right.

Therefore, I'd rather Hillary win in the short term then have a fake conservative legitimized with a win. This rests on the theory though that a TRUE electable conservative will be nominated in 2012 which is a big gamble, but I'm going to roll the dice.

You're myopically discounting the fact two very old, very frail and very liberal Supreme Court Justices are barely hanging on in the hopes the Clinton Brothers or O win the White House. Namely John Paul Stevens (age 88) and Ruth Bader Ginsburg (age 75). The next president will be able to profoundly effect the direction and scope of Supreme Court jurisprudence for about 25 years through his appointment of these justices' successors. Thus, in time, you would rue the day you decided to throw your little passive aggressive tantrum by turning away from the Grand Old Party, as in Grand Old Flag, Grand Army of the Republic and the Party of Lincoln.

And Bub, seperation of powers notwithstanding, those nine people have far more influence on the political bent and tone of government, as well as your substantive rights as an individual, than the occupant of the White House could ever hope to wield.

GottaHavePride
2/6/2008, 10:58 PM
Thus, in time, you would rue the day you decided to throw your little passive aggressive tantrum by turning away from the Grand Old Party, as in Grand Old Flag, Grand Army of the Republic and the Party of Lincoln.

Isn't SicEm the one that thinks Lincoln was as bad as a pinko commie bastard? Not your most effective arguin' there. ;)

KaiserSooner
2/6/2008, 11:29 PM
A Republican civil war...I love it!

I feel truly blessed this election cycle, as a flaming liberal, to sit on the sidelines, throwing what little cash I can Obama's way, and watch the Rush Limbaughs and Eva Brauns (err, I mean Ann Coulters) of the world rip apart the Republican Party. It frankly feels just as good as an OU win over Texas.

I agree with Homey on the Supreme Court, at least in the importance this election has on its make up. Getting either Hillary or Obama in the White House (preferrably Obama), plus a solid chance of an increased Dem majority the Senate is of prime import to me for that very reason. And vey doable. A GOP slapfest only makes it more so.

Okla-homey
2/6/2008, 11:49 PM
Isn't SicEm the one that thinks Lincoln was as bad as a pinko commie bastard? Not your most effective arguin' there. ;)

Remember when Kirk made the computer blow itself up when he told it everything he was saying was a lie?

I'm trying the same sorta thing by making Sic'em feel all conflicted by the fact the party that broadly represents conservative ideas also put Abe Lincoln in the White House, freed the slaves and destroyed the Confederacy.:D

SanJoaquinSooner
2/7/2008, 12:06 AM
Winners:

John McCain. Do the delegate math. It's over. And he benefited even more because his rival, Mitt Romney, was such a big loser.

Mike Huckabee. He kept his vice presidential ambitions alive with a surprising showing. And he got to thumb his nose at Romney besides. But he is still a regional candidate with little appeal outside the south or evangelical circles.

Hillary Clinton. Marginally. She held off the Obama wave (again), and won in the big blue states where she had to. The terrain going forward looks pretty good for her, with big states like Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania leaning in her direction.



Losers:

Mitt Romney. He lost every contest he needed to win. Apparently, if you want to be the conservative alternative it helps to actually be a conservative.

Talk Radio. They said vote for Romney. Voters didn’t. They said a vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain. Voters didn’t care.

Anti-Immigration Reformers Once again the anti-immigration panderer didn’t win. The issue may play well on talk radio and among the cultural conservatives of the Republican Party, but it doesn’t seem to move voters.

Pollsters. Obama with a 13 point lead in California? Romney leading by 7? For shame Zogby.

Ann Coulter. She fell on the sword and nobody gave a damn.

KaiserSooner
2/7/2008, 12:29 AM
Hillary Clinton. Marginally. She held off the Obama wave (again), and won in the big blue states where she had to. The terrain going forward looks pretty good for her, with big states like Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania leaning in her direction.


I'm not sure I'd even call her a marginal winner. It's hard to say exactly who, Obama or Clinton, won yesterday.

Yeah, Hillary won the big states (except Illinois), but it appears Obama won barely more delegates than Hillary. To me eye, it looks like he kept Hillary's margins in those big states to a minimum (he won at least 40% in NY, Mass, NJ, Cali, etc.), while he won by big margins in many small states. That's important because of the porportional rules of Dem primaries/caucuses, thus Obama getting the delegate edge.

Plus he's winning the money war against Hillary...she loaned herself 5 million, while Obama raked in 32 million in January (versus 14 million for Hillary).

Yeah, she has the edge in big states Ohio, Penn, and Texas. But it appears time (his support has only increased with time) and money is on Obama's side to change that. Plus, Obama apparently has the edge in Lousiana, Washington state, Virginia, Maryland, and DC primaries/caucuses, all of which come before Ohio and Texas. If he wins big in those states, will that counter or offset Hillary victories in Ohio and Texas?

Anyhoo. Who knows which of the two will win in the end. I suspect it'll make for an interesting, perhaps hung, convention.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/7/2008, 12:50 AM
What communist running mate are you talking about? I've already responded to this once.

Ezy Foster is about as conservative as you can get and the idea that she is a communist is just beyond absurd.I stand corrected. Back when he chose her, I had heard from somewhere that she was a former communist. I didn't research it til now.
However, that doesn't make Pat palatable, due to his isolationism, and the permanent smearing of reputation he's gotten from the MSM. Not to mention that between him and HRossBoss perot, Bill Clinton got elected in '92.

Soonerus
2/7/2008, 12:53 AM
McCain lost me here...


http://youtube.com/watch?v=EbgIjZLLjpM

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/7/2008, 12:54 AM
A Republican civil war...I love it!

I feel truly blessed this election cycle, as a flaming liberal, to sit on the sidelines, throwing what little cash I can Obama's way, and watch the Rush Limbaughs and Eva Brauns (err, I mean Ann Coulters) of the world rip apart the Republican Party. It frankly feels just as good as an OU win over Texas.

I agree with Homey on the Supreme Court, at least in the importance this election has on its make up. Getting either Hillary or Obama in the White House (preferrably Obama), plus a solid chance of an increased Dem majority the Senate is of prime import to me for that very reason. And vey doable. A GOP slapfest only makes it more so.A flaming lib trying to convince conservatives to vote for McCain. VERY persuasive, haha.

SicEmBaylor
2/7/2008, 12:55 AM
Isn't SicEm the one that thinks Lincoln was as bad as a pinko commie bastard? Not your most effective arguin' there. ;)

I wouldn't say that.

Big Red Ron
2/7/2008, 08:44 AM
Wanna wager a bottle of Scotch on that comment?Sure, make mine a single malt from the highlands.

Big Red Ron
2/7/2008, 08:46 AM
A Republican civil war...I love it!

I believe they are refering to a states rights civil war. It's an old idea, been tried before ya know. ;)

Scott D
2/7/2008, 10:31 AM
I stand corrected. Back when he chose her, I had heard from somewhere that she was a former communist. I didn't research it til now.
However, that doesn't make Pat palatable, due to his isolationism, and the permanent smearing of reputation he's gotten from the MSM. Not to mention that between him and HRossBoss perot, Bill Clinton got elected in '92.

Your incorrect view on her makes about as much sense as ignoring that Hillary worked on the Goldwater campaign when she was younger.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/7/2008, 11:37 AM
Your incorrect view on her makes about as much sense as ignoring that Hillary worked on the Goldwater campaign when she was younger.What do you make of Hillary being formerly conservative?

soonerscuba
2/7/2008, 12:28 PM
Party of Lincoln

How many of the people most affected by Lincoln the Republican are serving as members of Congress or Governorship under his party? Equating the Republican Party with Lincoln is like saying the Dems are still the party of Jackson.

Scott D
2/7/2008, 12:36 PM
What do you make of Hillary being formerly conservative?

zomg the communists were taking over the republican party!

Okla-homey
2/7/2008, 01:50 PM
How many of the people most affected by Lincoln the Republican are serving as members of Congress or Governorship under his party? Equating the Republican Party with Lincoln is like saying the Dems are still the party of Jackson.

Lincoln and his party were pretty stout on national defense. That hasn't changed in the contemporary GOP.