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Okla-homey
1/14/2008, 07:03 AM
Jan 14,1942: FDR signs Presidential Proclamation 2357

66 years ago, on this day in 1942, President Franklin D. Roosevelt issues Presidential Proclamation No. 2537, requiring aliens from World War II-enemy countries--Italy, Germany and Japan--to register with the United States Department of Justice. Registered persons were then issued a “Certificate of Identification for Aliens of Enemy Nationality.” A follow-up to the Alien Registration Act of 1940, Proclamation No. 2537 facilitated the beginning of full-scale internment of Japanese Americans the following month.

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SF headline, Feb 27, 1942

The following month, on Feb. 19, 1942, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signs Executive Order 9066, initiating a controversial World War II policy with lasting consequences for Americans of Japanese descent. The document ordered the “removal of resident enemy aliens” from parts of the West vaguely identified as “military areas.”

After the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Japanese in 1941, Roosevelt came under increasing pressure by military and political advisors to address the nation’s fears of further Japanese attack or sabotage, particularly on the West Coast, where naval ports, commercial shipping and agriculture were most vulnerable.

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This U.S. soldier of Japanese descent and American citizenship waits at a train station in Florin, CA. He, along with nine other servicemen, were granted furloughs from their service to return to the U.S. to assist with their families' relocation and internment. April 10, 1942

Included in the off-limits “military areas” referred to in the order were ill-defined areas around West Coast cities, ports and industrial and agricultural regions. While 9066 also affected Americans of Italian and German heritage, the largest numbers of detainees were by far Japanese.

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Los Angeles, California. Japanese-Americans going to Manzanar gather around baggage car at the old Santa Fe Station. (April 1942)

On the West Coast, long-standing racism against Americans of Japanese descent, motivated in part by jealousy over their commercial success, erupted after Pearl Harbor into furious demands to remove them en masse to “relocation camps” for the duration of the war.

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Japanese internment camp in Jerome, Arkansas

Japanese immigrants and their descendants, regardless of American citizenship status or length of residence, were systematically rounded up and placed in detention centers. “Evacuees,” as they were sometimes called, could take only as many possessions as they could carry and were housed in crude, cramped quarters.

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These people had to leave everything behind, pack up what they could carry, and move to the camps.

In the western states, camps on remote and barren sites such as Manzanar and Tule Lake housed thousands of families whose lives were interrupted and in some cases destroyed by Executive Order 9066. Many lost businesses, farms and loved ones as a result.

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The triangles denote the largest internment camps

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Mail into and out of the camps was read and this stamp was affixed to the envelope. This example is from the envelope of a wedding invitation by an interned couple.

Roosevelt delegated enforcement of 9066 to the War Department, telling Secretary of War Henry Stimson to “be as reasonable as possible” in executing the order. Attorney General Francis Biddle recalled Roosevelt’s grim determination to do whatever he thought was necessary to win the war.

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A baseball game at Manzanar. Picture by Ansel Adams circa 1943

Biddle observed that Roosevelt “was [not] much concerned with the gravity or implications” of issuing an order that essentially contradicted the Bill of Rights. In her memoirs, Eleanor Roosevelt recalled being completely floored by her husband’s action. A fierce proponent of civil rights, Eleanor hoped to change Roosevelt’s mind, but when she brought the subject up with him, he interrupted her and told her never to mention it again.

During the war, the U.S. Supreme Court heard two cases challenging the constitutionality of Executive Order 9066, upholding it both times citing the executive branch's relatively unfettered powerin wartime on matters of national security.

As an aside, Canada had a similar policy and large numbers of Canadians of Japanese descent were rounded up and interned as well.

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Japanese relocation camp in British Columbia in 1945.

Finally, on February 19, 1976, decades after the war, President Gerald Ford signed an order prohibiting the executive branch from reinstituting the notorious and tragic World War II order. In 1988, President Ronald Reagan issued a public apology on behalf of the government and authorized reparations for former Japanese internees and their descendants.

On September 27, 1992, the Amendment of the Civil Liberties Act of 1988, appropriating an additional $400 million in order to ensure that all remaining internees received their $20,000 redress payments, was signed into law by President George H. W. Bush, who also issued another formal apology from the U.S. government.

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Despite all this FDR is widely regarded as a great president. This is a photo from his national monument in DC.

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TUSooner
1/14/2008, 12:08 PM
Good stuff.

soonerhubs
1/14/2008, 01:49 PM
I met a lady that spent some of her childhood in Topaz. She was so positive about the entire experience. It's impressive considering the conditions of those camps and the suffering these folks went through because of panic and bigotry.

Jimminy Crimson
1/14/2008, 05:02 PM
Glad they still don't do this! ;)

OCUDad
1/14/2008, 05:40 PM
A good friend of mine spent his early years in Manzanar. His parents were farmers in California’s Central Valley. Their neighbor bought their land from them for one dollar - and returned it to them at the end of internment for that same dollar.

In the midst of shame, there were moments to be proud of.

lexsooner
1/14/2008, 09:17 PM
The same thing happened to Japanese-Canadians. A guy with whom I play tennis is part Japanese-Canadian. His dad and paternal grandparents were interned during WWII in Canada. The family lost their home, business, and much of their personal property. My tennis friend said his grandpa always kept one momento of the times: a bill from the Canadian government for the shipping and storage of their property items sent to him after he was interned and living in a shack, as a reminder of how his family was so betrayed by the country to whom he was loyal.

Nevertheless, the family persevered and kept a stiff upper lip and became successful after the war. Only people of the highest character and honor could do so after these events.

soonerhubs
1/14/2008, 09:27 PM
A good friend of mine spent his early years in Manzanar. His parents were farmers in California’s Central Valley. Their neighbor bought their land from them for one dollar - and returned it to them at the end of internment for that same dollar.

In the midst of shame, there were moments to be proud of.
That neighbor is a class act.

olevetonahill
1/14/2008, 11:25 PM
Ok Peeps
Olevet Checking In here
Was the shat Right ? at the Time ?, YUP!
Our Country had been brutally attacked :mad: :eek:
Was it Wrong ? In hind site YES
This ranks up there with Debating about The A bomb , shat happened people Died , It was war !
Just sayin

jkjsooner
1/15/2008, 02:47 PM
Ok Peeps
Olevet Checking In here
Was the shat Right ? at the Time ?, YUP!
Our Country had been brutally attacked :mad: :eek:
Was it Wrong ? In hind site YES
This ranks up there with Debating about The A bomb , shat happened people Died , It was war !
Just sayin

No it was not right. Even if they had to put them in camps, the way it was done was horrible. Most families lost almost everything. They were forced to sell their business and houses almost overnight.

It's enough that they had to live through the camps. It's unforgiveable that all their wordly possessions were essentially stolen from them.

I have a friend who grew up in Buffalo. Her grandparents were forced to sell their electronics repair business and house in a couple of days. They got next to nothing for it. Her grandparents never fully recovered economically from it.

Her father later joined the military to "prove that he's an American."

KaiserSooner
1/15/2008, 07:49 PM
Ok Peeps
Olevet Checking In here
Was the shat Right ? at the Time ?, YUP!
Our Country had been brutally attacked :mad: :eek:


So our country had been attacked by Japanese Americans from the west coast?

Sheesh, I'd like to know where get your history books.

King Crimson
1/15/2008, 08:27 PM
in the fall of 01 and thereafter there were many people on this board in favor of rounding up the ragheads. no? there were.

many of them would not have blanched at the internment of the Japanese used as an example of an ugly episode in our nation's past that ought not be repeated since security issues trump not only civil rights but potentially citizenship.

BUT, when it's a chance to take a shot at a non-Republican president (particularly the iconic FDR (yeah, i know, a socialist along with that commie hellburner John Kenneth Galbraith))....hey hey! lookie, a whole new moralizing perspective.