Oklahoma DL Expiration

[Mjcpr]

Sheesh, whatever you do, don't let your DL expire. Pain. in. the. ***.

It's my own fault for not checking. I didn't even realize it was about to expire until I was going through airport security on NYE to go to Phoenix, the last day I could easily renew it. :mad:

Now I have to take my birth certificate and whatnot to the DPS office and then I can go to the tag office to actually renew my license. The DPS doesn't exactly have 24 hour service.

Moral of the story: check yo license, it should expire some year at the end of the month in which you were born.

[Harry Beanbag]

Just move to Arizona. My license expires on my birthday in 2036.

[Flagstaffsooner]

Just move to Arizona. My license expires on my birthday in 2036.You're lucky, I have to renew mine in 2021. I better get moving.

[KC//CRIMSON]

Sheesh, whatever you do, don't let your DL expire. Pain. in. the. ***.

It's my own fault for not checking. I didn't even realize it was about to expire until I was going through airport security on NYE to go to Phoenix, the last day I could easily renew it. :mad:

Now I have to take my birth certificate and whatnot to the DPS office and then I can go to the tag office to actually renew my license. The DPS doesn't exactly have 24 hour service.

Moral of the story: check yo license, it should expire some year at the end of the month in which you were born.

Was it a "REAL ID?";)

WASHINGTON - Residents of at least 17 states are suddenly stuck in the middle of a fight between the Bush administration and state governments over post-Sept. 11 security rules for driver's licenses — a dispute that, by May, could leave millions of people unable to use their licenses to board planes or enter federal buildings.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who was unveiling final details of the REAL ID Act's rules on Friday, said that if states want their licenses to remain valid for air travel after May 2008, those states must seek a waiver indicating they want more time to comply with the legislation.

Chertoff, as he revealed final details of the REAL ID Act, said that in instances where a particular state doesn't seek a waiver, its residents will have to use a passport or a newly created federal passport card if they want to avoid a vigorous secondary screening at airport security.

"The last thing I want to do is punish citizens of a state who would love to have a REAL ID license but can't get one," Chertoff said. "But in the end, the rule is the rule as passed by Congress."

Chertoff spoke as he discussed the details of the administration's plan to improve security for driver's licenses in all 50 states — an effort delayed due to opposition from states worried about the cost and civil libertarians upset about what they believe are invasions of privacy.

Under the rules announced Friday, Americans born after Dec. 1, 1964, will have to get more secure driver's licenses in the next six years.

The Homeland Security Department has spent years crafting the final regulations for the REAL ID Act, a law designed to make it harder for terrorists, illegal immigrants and con artists to get government-issued identification. The effort once envisioned to take effect in 2008 has been pushed back in the hopes of winning over skeptical state officials.

To address some of those concerns, the government now plans to phase in a secure ID initiative that Congress approved in 2005. Now, DHS plans a key deadline in 2011 — when federal authorities hope all states will be in compliance — and then further measures to be enacted three years later.

To make the plan more appealing to cost-conscious states, federal authorities drastically reduced the expected cost from $14.6 billion to $3.9 billion, a 73 percent decline, said Homeland Security officials familiar with the plan.

The American Civil Liberties Union has fiercely objected to the effort, particularly the sharing of personal data among government agencies. The DHS and other officials say the only way to ensure an ID is safe is to check it against secure government data; critics such as the ACLU say that creates a system that is more likely to be infiltrated and have its personal data pilfered.

In its written objection to the law, the ACLU claims REAL ID amounts to the "first-ever national identity card system," which "would irreparably damage the fabric of American life."

The Sept. 11 attacks were the main motivation for the changes.

The hijacker-pilot who flew into the Pentagon, Hani Hanjour, had four driver's licenses and ID cards from three states. The DHS, created in response to the attacks, has created a slogan for REAL ID: "One driver, one license."

By 2014, anyone seeking to board an airplane or enter a federal building would have to present a REAL ID-compliant driver's license, with the notable exception of those more than 50 years old, Homeland Security officials said.

The over-50 exemption was created to give states more time to get everyone new licenses, and officials say the risk of someone in that age group being a terrorist, illegal immigrant or con artist is much less. By 2017, even those over 50 must have a REAL ID-compliant card to board a plane.

So far, 17 states have passed legislation or resolutions objecting to the REAL ID Act's provisions, many due to concerns it will cost them too much to comply. The 17, according to the ACLU, are: Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Maine, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee and Washington state. Among other details of the REAL ID plan:

_The traditional driver's license photograph would be taken at the beginning of the application instead of the end so that if someone is rejected for failure to prove identity and citizenship, the applicant's photo would be kept on file and checked if that person tried to con the system again.

_The cards will have three layers of security measures but will not contain microchips as some had expected. States will be able to choose from a menu which security measures they will put in their cards.

Over the next year, the government expects all states to begin checking both the Social Security numbers and immigration status of license applicants.

Most states already check Social Security numbers and about half check immigration status. Some, like New York, Virginia, North Carolina and California, have already implemented many of the security measures envisioned in REAL ID. In California, for example, officials expect the only major change to adopt the first phase would be to take the photograph at the beginning of the application process instead of the end.

After the Social Security and immigration status checks become nationwide practice, officials plan to move on to more expansive security checks, including state DMV offices checking with the State Department to verify those applicants who use passports to get a driver's license, verifying birth certificates and checking with other states to ensure an applicant doesn't have more than one license.

A few states have already signed written agreements indicating they plan to comply with REAL ID. Seventeen others, though, have passed legislation or resolutions objecting to it, often because of concerns about the cost of the extra security.

[jeremy885]

Which I don't understand. The last DL I had from OK in 05 looked more secure then the new tx DL I received when I moved down here.

[Chuck Bao]

This National ID sounds quite scary. What information will be supplied on Social Security checks and to whom?

Kudos to the 17 states and the ACLU for opposing this.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Most states already check Social Security numbers and about half check immigration status. Some, like New York, Virginia, North Carolina and California, have already implemented many of the security measures envisioned in REAL ID. In California, for example, officials expect the only major change to adopt the first phase would be to take the photograph at the beginning of the application process instead of the end.

I renewed my driver license in California in 2005. I don't know how they checked my immigration status.

[Chuck Bao]

I renewed by Oklahoma DL last month until 2012. I used the opportunity to once again bitch to my old friend, the county tag agent, why I lost my motorcycle license so many years ago. That ****es me off everytime I think about it.

[jeremy885]

This National ID sounds quite scary. What information will be supplied on Social Security checks and to whom?

Kudos to the 17 states and the ACLU for opposing this.


Why does it sound scary? Seems reasonable, just like almost every other developed country in the world, to have your ID issued by only one governmental organization instead of 50.

[jeremy885]

I renewed my driver license in California in 2005. I don't know how they checked my immigration status.
Are you not suppose to be here? ;)

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Are you not suppose to be here? ;)

I'm a U.S. citizen, but how do they know that?

[Chuck Bao]

Why does it sound scary? Seems reasonable, just like almost every other developed country in the world, to have your ID issued by only one governmental organization instead of 50.

It wouldn't have been 10 years ago when most developed countries already had national ID cards. The scary part, to me, is that a national databank of IRS records, social security contributions, bank accounts, credit card purchases, international travel, etc. can be so easily done now.

Aren't we already supposed to give the US Treasury department our bank account numbers and balances?

It's not that I have anything to hide. It's more about the inevitable tendency to slide into a nanny state and the new IT apparatchiks who covet their newfound power.

[Turd_Ferguson]

It's easy to get a DL. Tell them your name is Jose Gonzalez and your SS# is 44.....oh wait, 1804 passed....I forgot, sorry.:D

[leavingthezoo]

You're lucky, I have to renew mine in 2021. I better get moving.

2040 here. i'm starting to feel a little rushed. ;)

[1stTimeCaller]

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90124&highlight=driver+license+expired

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[ChickSoonerFan]

I wonder if the same rules apply if you lose your license?

[SicEmBaylor]

Sheesh, whatever you do, don't let your DL expire. Pain. in. the. ***.

It's my own fault for not checking. I didn't even realize it was about to expire until I was going through airport security on NYE to go to Phoenix, the last day I could easily renew it. :mad:

Now I have to take my birth certificate and whatnot to the DPS office and then I can go to the tag office to actually renew my license. The DPS doesn't exactly have 24 hour service.

Moral of the story: check yo license, it should expire some year at the end of the month in which you were born.

This is the benefit of living in a small town with a tag office full of people you've known your whole life. Mine was like 4-5 months expired a couple of years ago, and I went in and they just printed me up a new one. No problem.

:D

[SicEmBaylor]

This National ID sounds quite scary. What information will be supplied on Social Security checks and to whom?

Kudos to the 17 states and the ACLU for opposing this.

Totally agreed.

[Okla-homey]

Why does it sound scary? Seems reasonable, just like almost every other developed country in the world, to have your ID issued by only one governmental organization instead of 50.

except for this little thing we have called the Constitution that places limits on federal authority.

That said, I don't have a problem with a national ID. We already sorta have it in the passport. And passports are legal, bona fide, unimpeachable ID for any purpose in the USA. And waaaay more secure than a DL because you can't get one, regardless of the state in which you live, unless you are an AMCIT.

[bluedogok]

I renewed by Oklahoma DL last month until 2012. I used the opportunity to once again bitch to my old friend, the county tag agent, why I lost my motorcycle license so many years ago. That ****es me off everytime I think about it.
My M endorsement was dropped when I moved from OK to Texas even though it is suppose to transfer. I didn't notice it since they mail it to you a month later. I found out when I got to meet Trooper Sanchez out in the Hill Country. I have heard many stories of this happening to people moving into the state and Texas DPS dropping it.

I got my MC license when I was 14, I wasn't too happy when they went to the endorsement system because I lost my CC license and had to go down to the OK-DPS to get the M endorsement grandfathered.

[GottaHavePride]

And see, if you have a national ID system, then you have no need to carry a separate passport. All they have to do is link a code to your national ID noting that your passport is valid, and what visas you have current.

Count me as thinking it's about damn time we had a national ID, and that it should be at LEAST as big a pain in the *** to get one as to get your passport.

[Chuck Bao]

And see, if you have a national ID system, then you have no need to carry a separate passport. All they have to do is link a code to your national ID noting that your passport is valid, and what visas you have current.

Count me as thinking it's about damn time we had a national ID, and that it should be at LEAST as big a pain in the *** to get one as to get your passport.

I don't get it. Seriously.

It seems if you're talking about non-Americans in the US and they shouldn't have a US national ID anyway. If you're taking about a national ID for Americans keeping up with our current visas. That would be a trip to the American embassy for at least once a month for me and I don't want to do that every time I travel.

[GottaHavePride]

If you're taking about a national ID for Americans keeping up with our current visas. That would be a trip to the American embassy for at least once a month for me and I don't want to do that every time I travel.


No, no, better than that...

You have to fill out visa paperwork anyway as it is, right? So if you had a national ID, why not just set it up so that when the govt. approves your visa, they electronically tick an access code on your ID. Thus, you don't need to go anywhere - you hit a border somewhere, they scan your ID through the machine and it comes back "VISA = OK".

No trip to embassy necessary.

[Chuck Bao]

Being in Thailand, I regularly get tourist visas to visit a number of countries, such as Laos, Vietnam, Burma, China, etc. So, you're talking about an international ID?

[FirstandGoal]

Last year my OK DL expired at the end of October and I didn't realize it until March when for some inexplicable reason I got ID'd for a Margarita in bricktown :O

I went to the tag agency the next day and I got a renewal with no problem.

[Okla-homey]

Last year my OK DL expired at the end of October and I didn't realize it until March when for some inexplicable reason I got ID'd for a Margarita in bricktown :O

I went to the tag agency the next day and I got a renewal with no problem.

That was before H.B. 1804 went into effect on 11/1/07. After that day, new Oklajoma DL applicants, and those seeking renewal of expired licenses must bring documentation of US citizenship or resident alien status to the drivers license place. Probably the most convenient document for most Okies to bring along, by virtue of the Fourteenth Amandment, is their birth certificate. -- if they were hatched in the US.

[Mjcpr]

That was before H.B. 1804 went into effect on 11/1/07. After that day, new Oklajoma DL applicants, and those seeking renewal of expired licenses must bring documentation of US citizenship or resident alien status to the drivers license place. Probably the most convenient document for most Okies to bring along, by virtue of the Fourteenth Amandment, is their birth certificate. -- if they were hatched in the US.

First the DPS office and then the DL place (Tag Agent). An important step I was not aware of. :O

[FirstandGoal]

That was before H.B. 1804 went into effect on 11/1/07. After that day, new Oklajoma DL applicants, and those seeking renewal of expired licenses must bring documentation of US citizenship or resident alien status to the drivers license place. Probably the most convenient document for most Okies to bring along, by virtue of the Fourteenth Amandment, is their birth certificate. -- if they were hatched in the US.


Ah...

So now they will be trying to see if I am an illegal messican next time?

[Okla-homey]

Ah...

So now they will be trying to see if I am an illegal messican next time?

ONLY if you let it expire. If you merely seek to renew an unexpired license, you can be a citizen of Braliviamala, illegally in this country, with no problemo. savvy?

Oh yeah, if you do let it expire, and you choose to use the birth certificate as your proof of citizenship, you have to bring a certified copy of your birth certificate. Not a note signed by your Mom that states: "Hi. I'm F&G's Mom. On <insert date> I gave birth to this person, and I did so inside the United States. TIA, F&G's Mom."

[Sooner_Bob]

First the DPS office and then the DL place (Tag Agent). An important step I was not aware of. :O

I didn't realize that either. When we moved back to Oklahoma I went down to the Tag Agency to get an OK DL and was told I needed to establish an OK driving record at the DPS office. I was like I did establish one almost 20 years ago? I still had to go down to the DPS office and do the whole eye test, finger printing, etc. Then I went to get my license.

Then when we moved most recently I just went down to the Tag Agency and updated my address and got a new DL. Unfortunately they wouldn't extend the expiration date for me so I've got to get another one later this year when the one I got in 2004 expires. They told me they wouldn't issue a new one more than 6 months prior to the expiration date of the current license. :rolleyes:

[Mjcpr]

Now, they're going to train the tag agents on how to recognize a fake birth certificate and then allow them to do the check, eliminating the step of going to the DPS. So that'll help. Not me, but I'm sure it'll help somebody. :mad:

[sooneron]

When I handed in my OK DL to NJ for their license, the agent laughed at it and had someone come take a look to check if it was authentic. OK took WAY too long to produce a credible form of id. Up until a few years ago, anyone with a good scanner and photoshop skillz could have made an Oklahoma license.

[Sooner_Bob]

Just wink at the old lady at the tag agency a few times and you'll be fine.

[mxATVracer10]

When I handed in my OK DL to NJ for their license, the agent laughed at it and had someone come take a look to check if it was authentic. OK took WAY too long to produce a credible form of id. Up until a few years ago, anyone with a good scanner and photoshop skillz could have made an Oklahoma license.
Yep. Even with my photoshop skillz being very limited, I became the ripe old age of 21 for our spring break ski trip to Keystone, Co. in '00. :D

[sooneron]

Yep. Even with my photoshop skillz being very limited, I became the ripe old age of 21 for our spring break ski trip to Keystone, Co. in '00. :D
Damn youngin'!!:mad:

Back in my day, we had exacto knives and glue!!

[bluedogok]

I didn't realize that either. When we moved back to Oklahoma I went down to the Tag Agency to get an OK DL and was told I needed to establish an OK driving record at the DPS office. I was like I did establish one almost 20 years ago? I still had to go down to the DPS office and do the whole eye test, finger printing, etc. Then I went to get my license.

Then when we moved most recently I just went down to the Tag Agency and updated my address and got a new DL. Unfortunately they wouldn't extend the expiration date for me so I've got to get another one later this year when the one I got in 2004 expires. They told me they wouldn't issue a new one more than 6 months prior to the expiration date of the current license. :rolleyes:
When I moved to Dallas in 1991 I kept my OK license/plates until bought a new car. I changed to a Texas license in 1992 and moved back to OKC a year later, my OK license had not expired so all I had to do was turn in my Texas license and paid the price for a duplicate and all was well. I was suprised it was that simple.