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oudivesherpa
1/12/2008, 10:47 AM
BCS CHAMPIONSHIPS + COACHING EXPERIENCE

There has been a lot of discussion on this and other message board lately on the value of motivation versus experience in molding a national championship. In the ten years since the BCS began, ten different coaches have won the BCS title at nine different schools.
The average length of tenure was 5 ½ years of coaching at that school before winning the title. If we exclude the longest and the shortest(23 years for Bobby Bowden and one year for Larry Coker) the average length of time is 3.9 years before a coach wins a NC. Let’s also point out that each school that has won the BCS has a storied football history—no real surprises in wining the NC—no Okie States, no Baylor’s.

SEASON SCHOOL COACH YRS AS HC/AT THAT SCHOOL

1998 TENN PHIL FLUMER 6 YRS

1999 FSU BOBBY BOWDEN 23 YRS

2000 OU BOB STOOPS 2 YRS

2001 MIA LARRY COKER 1 YRS

2002 tOSU JIM TRESSEL 2 YRS

2003 LSU NICK SABAN 4 YRS

2004 USC PETE CARROLL 4 YRS

2005 TEX MACK BROWN 8 YRS

2006 FLA URBAN MYER 2 YRS

2007 LSU LES MILES 3 YRS


While correlation is not causation, there appears to be a strong trend for new coaches coming into a quality program and winning the NC. If this trend continues, in the next four years we could expect to see a Rich Rodriquez, Bill Stewart, Randy Shannon or a Charlie Weis win the national title. If this is just a random set of numbers we would expect to see more mature coaches with longer tenure at their schools win the NC, such as Joe Paterno or Tommy Bowden.

Does some of the fire leave coaches after the win the Big One?

Blues1
1/12/2008, 12:37 PM
Your Quote - "Does some of the fire leave coaches after the win the Big One?"

I think - They Start - "THINKING Too Much"

Get out the Frisbee's --- Let the players have Fun -- JMHO...!!!

Blues1
1/12/2008, 12:44 PM
2001 MIA LARRY COKER 1 YRS --- Anybody know Where is Coker Now...??

BASSooner
1/12/2008, 08:19 PM
BCS CHAMPIONSHIPS + COACHING EXPERIENCE

There has been a lot of discussion on this and other message board lately on the value of motivation versus experience in molding a national championship. In the ten years since the BCS began, ten different coaches have won the BCS title at nine different schools.
The average length of tenure was 5 ½ years of coaching at that school before winning the title. If we exclude the longest and the shortest(23 years for Bobby Bowden and one year for Larry Coker) the average length of time is 3.9 years before a coach wins a NC. Let’s also point out that each school that has won the BCS has a storied football history—no real surprises in wining the NC—no Okie States, no Baylor’s.

SEASON SCHOOL COACH YRS AS HC/AT THAT SCHOOL

1998 TENN PHIL FLUMER 6 YRS

1999 FSU BOBBY BOWDEN 23 YRS

2000 OU BOB STOOPS 2 YRS

2001 MIA LARRY COKER 1 YRS

2002 tOSU JIM TRESSEL 2 YRS

2003 LSU NICK SABAN 4 YRS

2004 USC PETE CARROLL 4 YRS

2005 TEX MACK BROWN 8 YRS

2006 FLA URBAN MYER 2 YRS

2007 LSU LES MILES 3 YRS


While correlation is not causation, there appears to be a strong trend for new coaches coming into a quality program and winning the NC. If this trend continues, in the next four years we could expect to see a Rich Rodriquez, Bill Stewart, Randy Shannon or a Charlie Weis win the national title. If this is just a random set of numbers we would expect to see more mature coaches with longer tenure at their schools win the NC, such as Joe Paterno or Tommy Bowden.

Does some of the fire leave coaches after the win the Big One?
Don't forget about Bo Pelini. He could be next.

tommie15
1/12/2008, 08:20 PM
Don't forget about Bo Pelini. He could be next.

I like the way you think! :D

Crucifax Autumn
1/13/2008, 04:38 AM
Next to what? lol

St. Louis Sooner
1/13/2008, 12:45 PM
They either think too much or they relax too much ... not sure either way. Maybe each coach has their own cross to bear on that answer. Either way, the coaches achieve a huge milestone in their careers when they win the Big One, and history (even on other non-sports stages) is frought with highly-successful people being somewhat unsuccessful after they reach a huge milestone in their lives.

Maybe it's as simple as this: They don't plan for the afterwards. They set their sights on The Big Goal ... then they don't know what to do next AFTER they achieve that milestone.

As for the motivation vs experience thingie ... I think it's a combination of that and having the right mix of people. Look at what Bob did with the talent he inherited at OU when he came on board: He added a few talented JC players, some fantastic assistant coaches, and presto! I think Coker did the same thing ... Switzer did it with the Cowboys too.

We all agree there are missing elements when it comes to schools 'having all the talent in the world' but not being able to get the job done. Bringing in new coaches can really provide the missing elements that'll take the org to a higher level.