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ouflak
1/4/2008, 12:36 PM
I mean these guys did field a team for the game! What did you people think? They were just sit on their asses this last month and let us 'out coach' and/or 'out-athlete' them?

jeremy885
1/4/2008, 12:59 PM
This is why we lost. Maybe we can have Bob sign one for the next bowl game ;)

http://www.serioussportsnewsnetwork.com/2008/01/win-earns-stewart-head-coaching-job-loss-would-have-brought-death.html

BoulderSooner79
1/4/2008, 01:04 PM
This is why we lost. Maybe we can have Bob sign one for the next bowl game ;)

http://www.serioussportsnewsnetwork.com/2008/01/win-earns-stewart-head-coaching-job-loss-would-have-brought-death.html

Bob probably would sign - and then delegate.

BoulderSooner79
1/4/2008, 01:13 PM
I mean these guys did field a team for the game! What did you people think? They were just sit on their asses this last month and let us 'out coach' and/or 'out-athlete' them?

WVU did the same things I've seen them do to other teams when they won convincingly. They isolate White/Devine/Slaton on single tacklers and break big plays. When the defense is forced to commit everyone close to the line to stop it, they throw over the top against man coverage. When they lose, the opponent plays disciplined, position based defense and takes away the big plays. If they have to run 9-10 plays in a drive they usually get into a must-throw situation and don't convert. I thought OU's D was athletic enough to take away the big play and force 3rd down passes, but they were not. Also, WVU never lost this year with White healthy, but they did have to win some close ones against this strategy.

TUSooner
1/4/2008, 02:05 PM
Yep. Them guys played real good, yeah.
I'm not so sure it should be called an upset, point spread notwithstanding. Sure, they arguably didn't even get our B game, but they sure looked like the better team in a LOT of ways. They might even win if they played like that against our A game. One sign of a good team is that they consistently produce their A game, or close enough to it. I can't say that about the 2007Sooners.

But that only changes the question from, "Why did we lose to an inferior team?" to "Why aren't we better than they are?"

cvsooner
1/4/2008, 02:11 PM
I thought West Virginia very expertly exploited our weaknesses and played an excellent game. We did not play to our strengths and even when we did, we didn't execute well for much of the game.

I don't know why we come out so flat in bowl games any more. And then we get flattened. I really don't have a problem with the losses to LSU or to Bozo State, as we were in positions to win both of those, or certainly competitive.

But the USC and WVU games...baffle me. I don't have any answers why the Sooners can't seem to be motivated enough to play their best in the bowl games.

My only solace right now is Virginia Tech is also 0-4 in four straight BCS bowls.

sanantoniosooner
1/4/2008, 02:11 PM
WVU played well.

They seemed to have the desire and focus that we lacked. Perhaps they looked at their loss to Pitt as a wake up call and we just made excuses for our pathetic losses.

MextheBulldog
1/4/2008, 02:43 PM
Perhaps they looked at their loss to Pitt as a wake up call

My thoughts as well. Recall how fired up OU came after OsU in ****** following the TT loss.

zeke
1/4/2008, 02:52 PM
They were hungry. For what ever reason we were not.

KingDavid
1/4/2008, 02:55 PM
I would never even THINK of blaming another team for OUR losses.

Being an adult requires taking responsibility for our errors and faults, and doing something about it. Pinning the responsibility for our failures on a pathetic, vastly inferior, or in some cases unbelievable lucky opponent, would be in very poor taste.

The right thing to do is to step up and own it like a man. A 40 year old man, even.
;)

Leroy Lizard
1/4/2008, 04:14 PM
They simply kicked our team's asses. Nothing much else to say.

sanantoniosooner
1/4/2008, 04:53 PM
They simply kicked our team's asses. Nothing much else to say.
You talk a lot for a guy without much to say.

Leroy Lizard
1/4/2008, 05:09 PM
Gee, whatever.

stoopified
1/4/2008, 05:19 PM
What does WV have to do with us losing? :D:D:D

dabien
1/4/2008, 05:23 PM
WVU did beat us with an interim coach.
they beat us with 6 plays and 3 TDs because Brent Venables was once again appearing "drunk" with his play calling
is brent venables drunk in the third of the games he coaches? Maybe he needs to get off smoking weed and start making logical decisions.

PLaw
1/4/2008, 05:36 PM
I mean these guys did field a team for the game! What did you people think? They were just sit on their asses this last month and let us 'out coach' and/or 'out-athlete' them?

WVU played a good game. Not sure if it was their "A-game" or not, but they played well with no turnovers and few penalties.

The frustration on this board is not about losing as much as it is about why the Sooners didn't bring their A-game. Thirteen penalties, an onside kick that was poorly executed, and countless defensive busts is more like a D-game. On most fall Friday nights, I can watch a half dozen or more better coached high school teams within twenty minutes of my house. That's what is maddening.

I don't know if we would have won if we did play our A-game, but at least I would rest better knowing that the Sooners gave it their best effort - which was certainly not the case.

BOOMER

dabien
1/4/2008, 05:38 PM
WVU played a good game. Not sure if it was their "A-game" or not, but they played well with no turnovers and few penalties.

The frustration on this board is not about losing as much as it is about why the Sooners didn't bring their A-game. Thirteen penalties, an onside kick that was poorly executed, and countless defensive busts is more like a D-game. On most fall Friday nights, I can watch a half dozen or more better coached high school teams within twenty minutes of my house. That's what is maddening.

I don't know if we would have won if we did play our A-game, but at least I would rest better knowing that the Sooners gave it their best effort - which was certainly not the case.

BOOMER

I do not understand all these negative reputation points I am given. I am a die-hard sooners fan and I want whats best for them. I truly do not believe Brent Venables is fit to be DC. Reggie Smith and me are homies, i won't say if he's going to the NFL quite just yet because he doesn't know. it depends on what changes are made from here on out.

PLaw
1/4/2008, 05:59 PM
I am a die-hard sooners fan and I want whats best for them. I truly do not believe Brent Venables is fit to be DC. Reggie Smith and me are homies, i won't say if he's going to the NFL quite just yet because he doesn't know. it depends on what changes are made from here on out.

WOW - so Reggie stays if changes are made or if everything stays the same?? What type of changes is RS looking for?

Partial Qualifier
1/4/2008, 06:04 PM
What does WV have to do with us losing? :D:D:D

No kidding. This is OU we're talking about.

Nobody's EVER better than us; we just mess up on occasion and sometimes there's another team standing there to take advantage of it

;)

GrapevineSooner
1/4/2008, 06:09 PM
Sure, I'll blame the Mountaineers.

In fact, I think WVU's offensive coordinator should be fired. ;)

Jello Biafra
1/4/2008, 06:11 PM
I am a die-hard sooners fan and I want whats best for them.


if you really want what's best for the team, and you truly are one of reggie's "homies", you will tell reggie to chill and become a leader for next years team. we lack on-field leadership and his presence will help that with us losing 2 starting backs for next year........


no "I" in team and no room for "me" people for next years team. The money will be there, his football family and the degree won't.

SoonerBorn68
1/4/2008, 06:18 PM
Reggie Smith and me are homies, i won't say if he's going to the NFL quite just yet because he doesn't know. it depends on what changes are made from here on out.

Reggie Smith needs to stay and actually earn the reputation he's been given. I've seen him play in every game since he's been at OU & he's good but not great. The NFL drafts great players not good. Hype ain't gonna pay the rent.

cvsooner
1/4/2008, 06:23 PM
WOW - so Reggie stays if changes are made or if everything stays the same?? What type of changes is RS looking for?

Sounds like a Mustain-type problem.

jwlynn64
1/4/2008, 11:50 PM
I would never even THINK of blaming another team for OUR losses.

Being an adult requires taking responsibility for our errors and faults, and doing something about it. Pinning the responsibility for our failures on a pathetic, vastly inferior, or in some cases unbelievable lucky opponent, would be in very poor taste.

The right thing to do is to step up and own it like a man. A 40 year old man, even.
;)

But I guess admitting when another team is better than you is not being a man?

I'm not saying that was the case Wednesday night but it has definitely been the case in the past.

If I understand your post correctly, you are of the impression that no team can ever be more talented than OU... ever? In your world, no other team ever makes a great play. Your answer for anything good the other team does is that our guys messed up?

Wow!! It must suck in the world you live it.

adoniijahsooner
1/5/2008, 01:03 AM
West Virginia was helped alot by our team. On Devines 65 yard touchdown, Lofton over ran that play so much anyone could have made that cutback. Walkers poor defense on the 79 yard bomb, wide open touchdown pass to Reynaud with no one close to him. Thats 3 touchdowns with people out of position, Oh i almost forgot the Schmidt touchdown run. Dumb football what killed the beast.

proudsoonergal
1/5/2008, 01:10 AM
But I guess admitting when another team is better than you is not being a man?

I'm not saying that was the case Wednesday night but it has definitely been the case in the past.

If I understand your post correctly, you are of the impression that no team can ever be more talented than OU... ever? In your world, no other team ever makes a great play. Your answer for anything good the other team does is that our guys messed up?

Wow!! It must suck in the world you live it.

I think somebody missed the sarcasm meter.

:pop:

jwlynn64
1/5/2008, 02:29 AM
Maybe you know mburton71 but, I'm fairly certain that he wasn't being sarcastic but I could be wrong and I hope that I am. If I misjudged I apologize.

tulsaoilerfan
1/5/2008, 04:28 AM
Reggie Smith needs to stay and actually earn the reputation he's been given. I've seen him play in every game since he's been at OU & he's good but not great. The NFL drafts great players not good. Hype ain't gonna pay the rent.

I have to agree on Reggie; good player, not great and looks like he has gotten slower since he's been there

azzbakwardz
1/5/2008, 02:27 PM
Simply, no....they played well, but not any better than texas did against us, that was the best game texas played all year until bowl game.
We came out flat, unprepared, and not interested, period, they werent that great, we just made them look that way, it happens.
It amazes me that a football player can come into a big game and not be fired up about it, ready to basically hand someone on the other team thier ***, but this team, these players do it, year after year. Explain that please...
No, WV played well, with passion, and executed, we didnt.

TJKDone
1/5/2008, 05:53 PM
Stoops coaching ability is second to none. The reason you lost, IMO, was talent. I didn't think you played uninspired or lacking in creativity. They just had better players and the coaching advantage that you usually have wasn't enough to overcome their advantage athletically.

Hook'em

Redgiant2
1/5/2008, 05:57 PM
West Virginia did great there is no doubt about it. They handed OU's *** back to them for 4 quarters. That said, burying your head up your rectum and ignoring the rampant lack of fundamentals that should've been taught since pee wee football and a secondary that ignores their coverage rules to the tune of wide open touchdowns and long first downs is more than a little simple-minded. Fundamentals and discipline beat OU because there doesn't seem to be much of it going on. And if there is and they aren't listening, not much is being done about it.

Redgiant2
1/5/2008, 05:59 PM
Stoops coaching ability is second to none. The reason you lost, IMO, was talent. I didn't think you played uninspired or lacking in creativity. They just had better players and the coaching advantage that you usually have wasn't enough to overcome their advantage athletically.

Hook'em

Do you know what you're looking at when you're looking at it? That's a serious question.

TJKDone
1/5/2008, 06:20 PM
West Virginia did great there is no doubt about it. They handed OU's *** back to them for 4 quarters. That said, burying your head up your rectum and ignoring the rampant lack of fundamentals that should've been taught since pee wee football and a secondary that ignores their coverage rules to the tune of wide open touchdowns and long first downs is more than a little simple-minded. Fundamentals and discipline beat OU because there doesn't seem to be much of it going on. And if there is and they aren't listening, not much is being done about it.

IMO most teams that really lack in the "fundamentals" display it somewhat consistently and not out of the blue. The assertion OU forgot all their fundamental skills is, IMO, closer to "burying your head..." than the idea that the team really achieved what it could and finally ran into a group that just had more talent than they could overcome.

Hook'em

Redgiant2
1/5/2008, 06:45 PM
IMO most teams that really lack in the "fundamentals" display it somewhat consistently and not out of the blue. The assertion OU forgot all their fundamental skills is, IMO, closer to "burying your head..." than the idea that the team really achieved what it could and finally ran into a group that just had more talent than they could overcome.

Hook'em

Are you ****ting me??? You think this is out of the blue???? They perform this way in EVERY game they play to one extent or another. How do you think CU, USC, LSU, KSU, TT, Baylor, and IU exposed them the way they have. You think this is a one time deal here??? I said two months ago this was gonna happen again and nobody believed me. All I got was retarded FU messages from people with low self-esteem over it. Seriously, pay attention during games.

dabien
1/5/2008, 06:47 PM
Are you ****ting me??? You think this is out of the blue???? They perform this way in EVERY game they play. How do you think CU, USC, LSU, KSU, TT, Baylor, and IU exposed them the way they have. You think this is a one time deal here??? I said two months ago this was gonna happen again and nobody believed me. All I got was retarded FU messages from people with low self-esteem over it. Seriously, pay attention during games.

yea what is up with this message board. I am a sooners fan, and all i get is, "your a horns fan" but literally there is proof man. OU's secondary has problems and its pass defense, it's not a one time deal in this fiesta bowl.

its time to get rid of BV

Gandalf_The_Grey
1/5/2008, 07:00 PM
I can't wait until Dabien start the Venables has gambling problem rumor thread ;)

azzbakwardz
1/5/2008, 07:52 PM
More talented?? Maybe in a couple of spots, but some people are just giving WV way too much credit, its not like OUr boys didnt win the freakin conference now is it! No way WV is that much better on the field than we are, this was a meltdown, no doubt, but tap the breaks already.

Gandalf_The_Grey
1/5/2008, 07:55 PM
Unless they change their name to West Venables...I can't see them getting any blame

Soonerus
1/5/2008, 07:57 PM
Unless they change their name to West Venables...I can't see them getting any blame

Good point...

bob
1/5/2008, 08:25 PM
After listening to Stoop at his news conference, listening to sports talk radio and reading this board I still haven't heard any rational reason why we can play so well against OSU and Missouri at the end of the year, and then so poorly against our BCS opponents. Do you think the coaches have any idea about why, or what needs to change? It is a different team, depending on what effort is given in each game.

OUTromBoNado
1/6/2008, 04:38 AM
People may disagree with me on this..but I think the time between the CC game and the BCS bowls hurt us. I mean, during the season, you play IN A GAME every week. Nothing can replace actual gametime experience.

I don't think this is the whole root cause of the problem, but I do think it contributes...primarily to the crappy loss of fundamentals.

sanantoniosooner
1/6/2008, 10:52 AM
People may disagree with me on this..but I think the time between the CC game and the BCS bowls hurt us. I mean, during the season, you play IN A GAME every week. Nothing can replace actual gametime experience.

I don't think this is the whole root cause of the problem, but I do think it contributes...primarily to the crappy loss of fundamentals.
The problem with the theory is that other teams cope with it just fine. If there IS a problem with the layoff, it has nothing to do with the calender and everything to do with coaching.

And I'm not one that's trying to bash our coaches. I'm just being realistic about that particular "excuse".

MichiganSooner
1/6/2008, 11:13 AM
After listening to Stoop at his news conference, listening to sports talk radio and reading this board I still haven't heard any rational reason why we can play so well against OSU and Missouri at the end of the year, and then so poorly against our BCS opponents. Do you think the coaches have any idea about why, or what needs to change? It is a different team, depending on what effort is given in each game.

West Virginia beat us fair, square, and with an exclamation point. I was shocked the way it happened. They had much more quickness on defense than our guys could handle. Loadholt held over and over because he had too and their guys still could get to Sam. You can argue all you want that our guys did not bring the A game but I believe part of that was caused by West Virginia and their talent and team speed.

As far as us beating OSU convincingly, big deal. They are a 6-6 team and the Indiana team they beat in the bowl is even more mediocre. We got Missouri twice and the second time was in dominant manner. West Virginia had more good players with more speed than Missouri. Anybody who denies that has blinders.

They were ranked at the top all season, it seemed. I thought it was the east coast, ESPN, Big East bias. Lined up to go to national championship game. They got beat 13-9 with their qb hurt. Their rank dropped down to #11 or so. They are a top 5 team and proved it.

Now, let's go on to 2008; OUr year.

SOONER STEAKER
1/6/2008, 11:15 AM
WV beats us 1 out of 10 games, we just can't play the other 9.

BOOMER

sanantoniosooner
1/6/2008, 11:17 AM
WV beats us 1 out of 10 games, we just can't play the other 9.

BOOMER
aggy comment.

jagwelborn
1/8/2008, 12:18 AM
WV hammered OU
OU thumped Missouri...twice
Missouri smashed Arkansas
Arkansas sqeaked by LSU
so LSU beats OSU and wins the national championship???

Wouldn't all those thumpings between them and WV indicate that LSU wouldn't stand a chance against WV?

sanantoniosooner
1/8/2008, 12:50 AM
LSU would thump Pitt and the circle of life would be complete

dabien
1/8/2008, 02:17 AM
WV hammered OU
OU thumped Missouri...twice
Missouri smashed Arkansas
Arkansas sqeaked by LSU
so LSU beats OSU and wins the national championship???

Wouldn't all those thumpings between them and WV indicate that LSU wouldn't stand a chance against WV?

dude quit using the transitive property
and first off, LSU had many injured players against arkansas... dont compare that crap
just fire Brent Venables and lets move on

KingDavid
1/8/2008, 02:45 AM
just fire Brent Venables and lets move on

Gosh. Where have I heard that sentiment before?:confused:

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SoonerKnight
1/8/2008, 03:18 AM
And Over again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!



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Gosh. Where have I heard that sentiment before?:confused:

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Jacie
1/8/2008, 05:22 PM
I blame two boneheaded coaching decisions on this loss. OUr guys played flat the first half and are down two touchdowns. Then in the second half the defense sticks two 3 & outs on WV, OUr offense comes alive and all of a sudden we're within 5. Then Stoops drops his play card and has to revert to the Magic 8 Ball for advice on what to do next. The missed 2-point conversion was a hit to the face but then attempting an onside kick halfway through the third period and giving em the ball on OUr side of the field was JUST PLAIN STUPID! At that point the Sooner defense was playing with their backs against the wall and over-running everyone, resulting in long plays that for touchdowns.

FWIW, Ohio State suffered a similar fate. They stopped LSU only to get a roughing the kicker penalty followed by another 15-yard personal foul on Heyward and there the tigers are in the red zone instead of it being the Buckeye's ball. Their defense never really recovered from that point on just like OUrs didn't once crucial mistakes were made by whoever was calling OUr game.

85sooners
1/8/2008, 05:36 PM
:D
Sure, I'll blame the Mountaineers.

In fact, I think WVU's offensive coordinator should be fired. ;):D

birddog
1/8/2008, 05:41 PM
85sooners is the most long-winded sob on teh innerwebs.

LetsGoMountaineers
1/8/2008, 08:47 PM
Our offensive coord. is gone...he waited till the bowl game but he followed Fraud to scUM.

C&CDean
1/8/2008, 08:56 PM
dude quit using the transitive property
and first off, LSU had many injured players against arkansas... dont compare that crap
just fire Brent Venables and lets move on

How about we just give you a week off for being an insatiable bore?

You're welcome.

jagwelborn
1/9/2008, 09:27 AM
dude quit using the transitive property
and first off, LSU had many injured players against arkansas... dont compare that crap
just fire Brent Venables and lets move on

I'm sorry. You're right, LSU deserves the national title...:rolleyes:

Blues1
1/9/2008, 01:42 PM
Just because their offense & defense is better than ours has nothing to do with us losing...... :) - and also ---- :(

KingDavid
1/10/2008, 06:39 PM
And Over again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!



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