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achiro
12/27/2007, 05:06 PM
Maybe I was tired, maybe I was in a bad mood, maybe I am just missing something. I snickered at a couple of parts but I really didn't get it I guess. Can someone bring me up to speed on why this is considered the best movie evar by some folks?


BTW, this was one of only a couple of the Coen flicks I hadn't seen and the No country thread got me thinking I needed to check it out. Based on what I know so far, it's down the list of Coen films I've seen.

birddog
12/27/2007, 05:12 PM
it's something that gets funnier the more you watch it. alot of the humor and dialogue is really subtle.

i don't know what else to say.

royalfan5
12/27/2007, 05:15 PM
It looks like Achiro is out of his element.

silverwheels
12/27/2007, 05:18 PM
Maybe you should have watched The Big Lebowski instead.

achiro
12/27/2007, 05:19 PM
Maybe you should have watched The Big Lebowski instead.
DANG IT!!!!!!:mad: :D

achiro
12/27/2007, 05:20 PM
It looks like Achiro is out of his element.
You mean like maybe I should have been high when I watched it?

KC//CRIMSON
12/27/2007, 05:29 PM
Drink half a dozen white russians and watch it again.

tommieharris91
12/27/2007, 05:33 PM
Being high works too.

yermom
12/27/2007, 05:36 PM
You mean like maybe I should have been high when I watched it?

you aren't wrong, Achiro, you're just an *******

:D

i'm not really sure how to explain that flick. i really liked it the first time i saw it, and the more i watched it, the more i liked it.

it's easily in my top 10, i think

the dialog, the music, the characters, the story, the cast. it's all top-notch

birddog
12/27/2007, 05:36 PM
i'll take another caucasian, gary.

birddog
12/27/2007, 05:37 PM
you make one hell of a cuacasian, jackie.

yermom
12/27/2007, 05:38 PM
he treats objects like women, man

royalfan5
12/27/2007, 05:39 PM
I think this post will really tie the thread together.

yermom
12/27/2007, 05:40 PM
you are obviously not a golfer

birddog
12/27/2007, 05:41 PM
this aggression will not stand, man.

yermom
12/27/2007, 05:42 PM
wait, is The Big Labowski the pr0n version?

birddog
12/27/2007, 05:42 PM
hey, hey this is a private residence, man.

RFH Shakes
12/27/2007, 05:43 PM
Don't **** with the Jesus!:)

birddog
12/27/2007, 05:43 PM
we played a great lebowski drinking game back in the day.

you had 5 seconds to come up with a line and you had to take a shot if'n you couldn't.

picasso
12/27/2007, 05:45 PM
if you missed it the first time then there's no hope in going back.

Lott's Bandana
12/27/2007, 05:46 PM
it's something that gets funnier the more you watch it. alot of the humor and dialogue is really subtle.

i don't know what else to say.


Exactly.

I thought Napoleon Dynamite was stooooopid the first time I watched it. The middle of the second screening, I completely thought: "in".


Watch it again without expectations on a rainy Tuesday evening.


On a similar note: Take the initial greatness of the first time you saw The Usual Suspects, then pile on how amazing it is each time you watch it again...the things you didn't notice the first few times. Similar reaction. I found it incredible when the director of TUS explained how Kevin Spacey portrayed Verbal in a way that he knew people would watch it again, so his acting was focused on the first timers but also for those that knew what he was about...he played it both ways at once. That was the first time I really understood the concept of acting as an "art".

Sorry for the rant...I just like to celebrate brilliance in a mediocre world.



;)

SteelClip49
12/27/2007, 05:47 PM
I'm the Dude

KC//CRIMSON
12/27/2007, 05:52 PM
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.

King Crimson
12/27/2007, 06:00 PM
it's a comic reworking of Chandler's The Big Sleep.

Lott's Bandana
12/27/2007, 06:01 PM
it's something that gets funnier the more you watch it. alot of the humor and dialogue is really subtle.



One more thing...

I was watching the first season of The Office last night. One of the writers called it Observational Humor. A sitcom without a laughtrack...YOU have to decide what's funny to you.

Fargo
Princess Bride
Spinal Tap
Raising Arizona
Pulp Fiction
Little Miss Sunshine

Brilliant.

The Thin Man movies from the '40s are a perfect example of the early development of this cinematic style...serious plots with subtle, intelligent humor throughout.

Others smarter than me could even go back and point out some of Shakespeare's examples of this...

See...Cohen Brothers to Shakespeare...that's quite a leap!

Frozen Sooner
12/27/2007, 06:25 PM
This isn't like Vietnam, achiro. There are rules. It's just like that camel-****er in Iraq. This aggression will not stand.

Lott's Bandana
12/27/2007, 06:28 PM
This thread makes me happy in my smiles.

achiro
12/27/2007, 06:42 PM
So don't get me wrong, I didn't dislike the movie. Maybe I was looking for a point to the plot instead of just enjoying the one liners(I did laugh out loud when he nailed the board to the floor only to find that the door opened out!)
I still don't know that I liked it better than Fargo, O brother, Millers Crossing, or Raising Arizona.

tommieharris91
12/27/2007, 06:54 PM
YOU MUST DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND DUDE!!! ACROSS THIS LINE, YOU DO NOT... ohh, chinaman is not the preffered nomenclature. It's Asian-American, dude.

Frozen Sooner
12/27/2007, 06:55 PM
It's absuridism, achiro. The plot isn't linear at all-in fact, it could be argued that there really isn't a plot. It's just a very bizarre few days in a guy's life. The genius of the script is that while everything seems tangentially related, the relations are incidental and don't serve to advance what could be loosely called a plot.

King Crimson
12/27/2007, 07:04 PM
It's absuridism, achiro. The plot isn't linear at all-in fact, it could be argued that there really isn't a plot. It's just a very bizarre few days in a guy's life. The genius of the script is that while everything seems tangentially related, the relations are incidental and don't serve to advance what could be loosely called a plot.


see, here's my Chandler comment. there IS a plot. but it's hidden in goofing homage to the film noir/hard-boiled detective genre. the thing with the latter is it featured an "anti-hero". and Jeff L. is as such. the bad guy in social terms is the good guy.

Chinatown is in this tradition, minus to comedic send-up. where the "scummy" guy who makes a living on fringe of morals has to develop a conscience and do what is right by breaking the law/rules.

Petro-Sooner
12/27/2007, 07:11 PM
Phones ringing dude........

yermom
12/27/2007, 07:12 PM
i guess i need to see Chinatown again

and i really need to see Miller's Crossing

KC//CRIMSON
12/27/2007, 07:16 PM
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.

soonerinabilene
12/27/2007, 09:38 PM
I dabbled in pacifism once myself. Not in Nam, of course.

Where the **ck is my car, walter?
It was parked in a handicapped space. Perhaps they towed it.

I didnt bring it bowling. Im not buying it a beer. I didnt rent it shoes.

My 1000th post gets to be lebowski quotes. I am truly a blessed man.

tbl
12/27/2007, 10:08 PM
The Chinaman is not the issue.



WE CUT OFF YOUR JOHNSON!!!!

Mongo
12/27/2007, 10:29 PM
Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy **** with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your *** and pull the ****ing trigger 'til it goes "click."

Frozen Sooner
12/27/2007, 10:48 PM
Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy **** with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your *** and pull the ****ing trigger 'til it goes "click."

Jesus

oilmud
12/27/2007, 10:52 PM
This is what happens when you **** a stranger in the ***

yermom
12/27/2007, 11:12 PM
Jesus

you said it, mang

tbl
12/27/2007, 11:56 PM
Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited.
Brandt can't watch, though, or he has to pay a hundred.
Ah haha. That's marvelous.
Uh, I'm just gonna go find a cash machine.

Her life is in your hands.
Don't say that man.

Dude... Duder... El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

The bums lost!!!

tbl
12/27/2007, 11:57 PM
and I would definitely argue that there IS a plot. A good one too. I never have understood it when people say TBL or ND don't have plots.

tommieharris91
12/28/2007, 01:01 AM
Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy **** with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your *** and pull the ****ing trigger 'til it goes "click."

8-year-olds, dude.

1stTimeCaller
12/28/2007, 11:01 AM
It's a show dog, a Pomeranian, it has papers.

C&CDean
12/28/2007, 11:39 AM
I'm one of those people that think the Coen brothers flicks - and especially Fargo - are some of the worst movies I've ever seen. Yeah, I get it, but I just don't like it. Guess I'm just not a hipster or something. Fargo ranks right there with that fakey witch movie that came out a few years back. I've never heard faker Sven accents in a flick. Ever.

That being said, TBL is a great flick. Weird as hell, but I like it.

1stTimeCaller
12/28/2007, 11:42 AM
THe Captain has us working in shifts.

birddog
12/28/2007, 11:46 AM
my dirty undies, dude. the whites.

soonerinabilene
12/28/2007, 11:51 AM
Stay away from my ****ing lady friend, man.

Frozen Sooner
12/28/2007, 11:51 AM
KC-

See, I just don't agree about the plot or lack thereof. While there is a protagonist, there's no true antagonist. There's no fundamental struggle. At the end, the protagonist is essentially unchanged. He learns nothing and changes nothing about his life. I mean, I guess you could argue that the plot is the Dude attempting to get his life back to some semblance of normalcy while crazy **** happens, but he doesn't even seem to try to do that very hard. He's acted on and never acts himself.

soonerinabilene
12/28/2007, 12:01 PM
Were you listening to the dude's story?
No, I was bowling.
Then you have no frame of reference. You are like a child that wanders into the middle of a movie.

tbl
12/28/2007, 12:09 PM
Shomer Shabaz!

Frozen Sooner
12/28/2007, 12:12 PM
Were you listening to the dude's story?
No, I was bowling.
Then you have no frame of reference. You are like a child that wanders into the middle of a movie.

"I am the Walrus"

soonerinabilene
12/28/2007, 12:19 PM
"I am the Walrus"

VI LENIN!! Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!!!

silverwheels
12/28/2007, 03:23 PM
People forget that the brain is the biggest erogenous zone.

mikeelikee
12/28/2007, 03:27 PM
The Dude abides!

KC//CRIMSON
12/28/2007, 03:45 PM
I'll suck your **** for a thousand dollars.


Something tells me Tara Reid uses that line all the time now.;)

silverwheels
12/28/2007, 04:03 PM
I'll suck your **** for a thousand dollars.


Something tells me Tara Reid uses that line all the time now.;)

Now? I'm sure she's been using it for a long time.

soonerinabilene
12/28/2007, 04:29 PM
"they were nazis, dude?
"oh, come on Donnie, they were threatening castration. Are we going to split hairs here?

colleyvillesooner
12/28/2007, 05:31 PM
he's a nihlist.

Aww, that must be exhausting.

tommieharris91
12/29/2007, 01:37 AM
What's a pederass??

SHUT THE **** UP, DONNIE!!!

StoopTroup
12/29/2007, 12:10 PM
If you have never really known anyone like Jeff Bridges and John Goodman's Character in TBL...I guess you might not get it.

I've only watched it a few times because it brings back memories for me that I have locked away. ;)