Without Vince Young, Mack Brown is a Holiday Bowl-level coach

[sooner n houston]

Sucks for them! :D

Pacific Life Holiday Bowl (13)
Arizona State vs. Texas
Dec. 27, 8 p.m. ET (ESPN)
Why watch: If you want to see the first elite matchup of bowl season, this is it.

40-second analysis: Rejuvenated under first-year coach Dennis Erickson, the Sun Devils are the latest Pac-10 school griping about being left out of the BCS bowls. The league still hasn't gotten two teams into the big-money games in the same season. With Vince Young, Mack Brown is a BCS-level coach. Without Vince Young, Mack Brown is a Holiday Bowl-level coach.

Dash pick: Arizona State 27, Texas 23.






:P
Tostitos Fiesta Bowl (34)
West Virginia vs. Oklahoma
Jan. 2, 8 p.m. ET (Fox)
Why watch: Because the Sooners are playing better than anybody right now.

40-second analysis: This figured to be a tough assignment for the Mountaineers before they lost their coach. Already disconsolate over blowing a shot at the National Championship Game, their small, speed-based backs are facing a physical defense that figures to pound Pat White & Co. Speaking of which: The Dash was tempted to put out its first-ever APB for a current player, given the disappearance of West Virginia running back Steve Slaton. Sooners rank in the top 10 nationally in both scoring offense and scoring defense.

Dash pick: Oklahoma 42, West Virginia 17.



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[colleyvillesooner]

Heard on the radio today that Mack is 2-6 when Texas is a favorite in a bowl.

[Flagstaffsooner]

Silly, Silly, whorns (http://forums.hornfans.com/php/wwwthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=football&Number=5374108&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=)


VY was NOT the only reason we were great those two years. It can be argued that our 2005 team was one of the five greatest teams in college football history. Was VY a HUGE part of it? Sure, but he was not the only reason.
:eek: WTF!

[badger]

Maybe they're trying to sever ties with VY because he's not as good as a pro quarterback.

Really, is he even a quarterback, or is he a guy under center that runs the ball a lot? "Quarterback" implies throwing :D

However, before you get too carried away, remember that they beat us without VY and if it weren't for a few late hits of Colt McCoy, they would have been to the Big 12 instead of us. Something us Sooners can sympathize with after the way KSU attacked our man Jason White a few years back, too :(

However, losing to Aggie... there is no excuse :D We deserved that Big 12 for that reason alone! :D:D I mean... COME ON! AGGIE! :rolleyes:

[Jacie]

Silly, Silly, whorns

I don't think they are silly so much as bitter. Except for the Mack Brown Pep Club, they willingly agree with the title of this thread.

[stoopified]

Except for 1 season Mack was a Holiday Bowl level coach with VY.He did however mange to whine his way into another BCS Bowl but that had more to do with Brown's whining ability over VY ability at QB.

[TexasLidig8r]

Heard on the radio today that Mack is 2-6 when Texas is a favorite in a bowl.

Interesting since Mack's bowl record at Texas is 6 - 3.

Now.. what is Stoopsie's record in bowl games again?

Radio boys need to do their homework a wee bit.

[colleyvillesooner]

Interesting since Mack's bowl record at Texas is 6 - 3.

Now.. what is Stoopsie's record in bowl games again?

Radio boys need to do their homework a wee bit.

Sorry about that, it was Norm, so it was probably against the spread. Maybe the missing one was a pick em.

[Bourbon St Sooner]

Interesting since Mack's bowl record at Texas is 6 - 3.

Now.. what is Stoopsie's record in bowl games again?

Radio boys need to do their homework a wee bit.


We'll give you that one. Those Alamo Bowl trophies are really stacking up in Austin.

[MextheBulldog]

Stoops bowl record is 4-4.

But he also has 5 conference championships. :) :) :) :) :)

[Bourbon St Sooner]

Pfffft. Anybody can win conference championships.

Now Alamo Bowls, its hard to attain just that correct level of mediocrity to get there and then win it.

[MextheBulldog]

With Vince Young, Mack Brown is a BCS-level coach. Without Vince Young, Mack Brown is a Holiday Bowl-level coach.

Spot on....
1992 - Peach
1993 - Gator
1994 - Sun
1995 - Carquest
1996 - Gator
1997 - Gator
1998 - Cotton
1999 - Cotton
2000 - Holiday
2001 - Holiday
2002 - Cotton
2003 - Holiday
2004 - Rose (VY)
2005 - Rose (VY)
2006 - Alamo
2007 - Holiday

[badger]

Interesting since Mack's bowl record at Texas is 6 - 3.

Now.. what is Stoopsie's record in bowl games again?

Radio boys need to do their homework a wee bit.
Any bowl you can win, we can win better :D

Rose - Yea, we have one of those trophies.
Holiday - Got one of those too.
Cotton - yes, we win this one as well.

There you have it. We have the same bowl trophies you do.

And Big 12 trophies? We have so many of those Stoops is running out of types of candy to put in them.

Mack: Only Plain M&M's.
Stoops: Reese's Pieces, Skittles, Jolly Ranchers, Peanut AND Plain M&M's!

Next year: Hershey's Kisses for th championship trophy.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Leave poor Mack alone, fergoddsakes. He's just fine.

[TexasLidig8r]

Any bowl you can win, we can win better :D

Rose - Yea, we have one of those trophies.
Holiday - Got one of those too.
Cotton - yes, we win this one as well.

There you have it. We have the same bowl trophies you do.

And Big 12 trophies? We have so many of those Stoops is running out of types of candy to put in them.

Mack: Only Plain M&M's.
Stoops: Reese's Pieces, Skittles, Jolly Ranchers, Peanut AND Plain M&M's!

Next year: Hershey's Kisses for th championship trophy.

Of course.. Mack and Big Game Bob have won the same number of BCS bowls....

Oh... and Mack has done something Big Game Bob has never done.... win a national championship with just his own players.

:D

[colleyvillesooner]

I'm gonna punch you.

One more year before everyone accepts it was Vince and starts to turn on Mack. ;)

[TexasLidig8r]

One more year before everyone accepts it was Vince and starts to turn on Mack. ;)

some of us already have... :O

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[colleyvillesooner]

Hence "everyone" ;)

[badger]

Of course.. Mack and Big Game Bob have won the same number of BCS bowls....

Oh... and Mack has done something Big Game Bob has never done.... win a national championship with just his own players.

:D
Until a few years ago, you couldn't say Mack beat OU with his own players, either :D:D:D

But alas, you had Vince Young to take away that stigma. VY once again to Mack's rescue!

Tell me Lid... why didn't you choose this avatar?
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7573/avatar2ck7.jpg
Do you really think Vince is coming back to save Mack? If so, here's your avatar:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8995/avatar3kn7.jpg
And then you have a funny looking kid that isn't very good to replace VY:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4162/avatar4wy0.jpg
But instead, you go with the tame option:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3111/avatar1mp0.jpg

I look forward to designing your basketball avatar :D

[Stitch Face]

some of us already have... :O

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This isn't hornfans.

[MextheBulldog]

I'm gonna punch you.

One more year before everyone accepts it was Vince and starts to turn on Mack. ;)

Especially in '08 when Jevan Snead leads Ole Miss to a miraculous 10-2 SEC West division title and Cotton Bowl appearance. :cool:

"How could Mack let him get away....?"
"Mack sure did pick the wrong QB in '06...."

[TexasLidig8r]

And then you have a funny looking kid that isn't very good to replace VY:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4162/avatar4wy0.jpg


I look forward to designing your basketball avatar :D

lol..

Now now.. NO talk about funny lookin kids playing quarterback!!!

[goingoneight]

Yeah... Chrissy might have a lil' sand down there still.

[BASSooner]

Of course.. Mack and Big Game Bob have won the same number of BCS bowls....

Oh... and Mack has done something Big Game Bob has never done.... win a national championship with just his own players.

:D
somehow I'm not offended...


I see it being more of a quick and efficient way of winning a national championship.

see:

Florida
Miami-FL
potentially-LSU

[Leroy Lizard]

Really, is he even a quarterback, or is he a guy under center that runs the ball a lot? "Quarterback" implies throwing

Um, what team do we root for again?

[Soonerfan1993]

Interesting since Mack's bowl record at Texas is 6 - 3.

Now.. what is Stoopsie's record in bowl games again?

Radio boys need to do their homework a wee bit.

Built primarily off Holiday/Alamo/Cotton Bowl opponents without VY. 4-2 in such games!

[SoonerShark]

Of course.. Mack and Big Game Bob have won the same number of BCS bowls....

Oh... and Mack has done something Big Game Bob has never done.... win a national championship with just his own players.

:D

It's easy to make a gourmet dinner with mainly just beer nuts and cocktail weenies in the fridge with a dash of Heupel.

Mack Brown has done a good job. If not for Bob Stoops' Oklahoma exploits Brown would be considered more prevalently as one of the nation's great coaches, maybe even following an additional national championship path in 2002 or 2004 without the OU losses those years. Brown has always been respectful of OU and its players, recalling fondly his time as a Barry Switzer assistant. He had the bad fortune of running into OU's good fortune, but he has still not had that bad a run at UT.

Vince Young only beat OU once in his four years on campus, UT going 1-3 against the Sooners while VY was on campus, the first year as a redshirt.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Mack is a FINE coach. He's JUST RIGHT for the whorns.

[Jacie]

Mack Brown with Bob Stoops coaching Oklahoma is the equivalent of Tom Osborne with Barry Switzer coaching Oklahoma. In both instances, the Sooner coach has kept the opposing one just a hair below the achievement level of Greatness. Most whorn faithful have accepted this as their fate, just check their boards if you don't believe me. On the plus side a lot of em now have lifetime passes to SeaWorld.

[Leroy Lizard]

UT faithful should consider buying time-shares in San Diego.