Info on West Virginia Defense

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Everybody knows about the offense(4th in rushing per game at 292) but their defense played pretty well this season. Here is some info:

16th in rush defense
4th in total defense
7th in scoring defense
9th in turnover margin
12th in sacks

They run a 3-3-5 defense that features good linebacker play from senior Marc Magro who had 8 sacks. Nose tackle Keilen Dykes is a handle full at 295, often being double teamed. DE Johnny Dingle at 275 also had 8 sacks on the year. Mortty Ivy is also a pretty good linebacker.

They want the 3 down lineman to tie up blockers and allow the speed of playing extra safeties on the outside to prevent running to the outside.

They ll blitz from the outside fairly often sending the safeties or a safety and a linebacker at the same time.

This defense has 7 seniors starting so they have experience back there and have been playing this D since the Todd Graham days..

[sooneron]

They're good, but not as good as the numbers say they are. The big lEast was not a very offensively potent league this year. If we had played their sched, we might have led the nation in D.

[Boomer.....]

Good info, thanks.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Probably their most impressive outing was against Rutgers holding them to 3 points.....

I m not saying they are all world but their guys have been playing in that system for a while and are a pretty solid bunch

[colleyvillesooner]

Their opponents and their Total Offense Ranking:

W. Michigan # 57
Marshall #46
Maryland # 88
E. Carolina # 71
S Florida # 39
Syracuse #114
Mississippi St. # 112
Rutgers # 26
Louisville #8
Cinncinnati #28
UConn # 83
Pitt #108

That's an average of # 64.

IN the three games they played a Top 30 offense, they gave up

Rutgers: 314 yds (131 Pass, 183 Run) under their average by 123 yards
Louisville: 416 yds (345 pass, 71 run) under their average by 72 yards
Cinncinnati: 446 yds (323 pass, 123 Run) over their average by 10 yards

[cheezyq]

They run a 3-3-5 defense...

Wow. The last time we faced a 3-3-5 defense, we laid 62 points on them. I'm sure WV has better athletes than Tulsa, but still....

Thx for the info, STEP.

[Blitzkrieg]

They are aTm on both sides of the ball, but with more talent and much better coaching.

They will be tough, the 3-3-5 really clogs everything up, and I for one am glad we'll have Heupel breaking down the way to attack it for Bradford, because it is confusing. You don't beat it like you do a cover 2. Also, Jim Leavitt will be able to share a little extra insight, he and Stoops are tight.

[virginiasooner]

Are you saying they are nothing like the 1978 West Virginia team?

[r5TPsooner]

Pitt scored on there Defense, nuff said.

[sooner518]

hehe Dingle.

[Curly Bill]

The 3-3-5 gives them versatility. Versatility to walk some of those other guys up on the line making a 4 or 5 man front, lots of versatility in blitzing enabling different stunts and blitz packages, etc... Basically they can move their LB's and DB's around all over the place hoping to create confusion for the offense.

If I were scheming to attack the 3-3-5 with OUr team I'd plan to run the ball down their throat, make them commit extra guys to the LOS and then hit them with play action pass.

[AverageJoe]

Their opponents and their Total Offense Ranking:

W. Michigan # 57
Marshall #46
Maryland # 88
E. Carolina # 71
S Florida # 39
Syracuse #114
Mississippi St. # 112
Rutgers # 26
Louisville #8
Cinncinnati #28
UConn # 83
Pitt #108

That's an average of # 64.

IN the three games they played a Top 30 offense, they gave up

Rutgers: 314 yds (131 Pass, 183 Run) under their average by 123 yards
Louisville: 416 yds (345 pass, 71 run) under their average by 72 yards
Cinncinnati: 446 yds (323 pass, 123 Run) over their average by 10 yards


Hey that's a pretty cool analysis. Please do the same for OU

Thanks

AJ

[colleyvillesooner]

Opponent / Offense Rank

UNT # 48
Miami #110
Utah St #115
Tulsa # 1
Colorado # 72
Texas # 13
Missouri # 5
Iows St. # 102
Texas A&M #54
Baylor #86
Texas Tech # 2
Oklahoma St #9
Missouri # 5

That's an average of # 47.

In the 6 games they played against Top 13 Offenses, they did this:

Tulsa: 398 yds (354 Pass, 44 Rush) under their average by 144 yards
Texas: 385 yds (324 Pass, 61 Rush) under their average by 77 yards
Missouri: 418 yds (361 Pass, 57 Rush) under their average by 74 yards
Texas Tech: 473 yds (420 Pass, 53 Rush) under their average by 64 yards
Oklahoma State: 300 yds (105 Pass, 195 Rush) under their average by 184 yards
Missouri: 317 yds (219 Pass, 98 Rush) under their average by 175 yards

[Scott D]

Pitt got jobbed out of 14 points by the zebras on there Defense, nuff said.

fixed.

[colleyvillesooner]

Going the other way, and looking at who we've both played as far as defense's rank, it's not even close.

Oklahoma #18 Total Offense

Opponent / Defense Rank

UNT # 113
Miami #30
Utah St #107
Tulsa # 111
Colorado # 64
Texas # 54
Missouri # 59
Iowa St. # 66
Texas A&M #83
Baylor #109
Texas Tech # 50
Oklahoma St #103
Missouri # 59

Against the 1 team we played with a Defense ranked 30 or better:

Miami Fla - 411 yards. 66 yards over their average

[Scott D]

so what you're saying is we played against a lot of teams that played against teams that run gimmick offenses? ;)

[colleyvillesooner]

West Virginia #4 Total Defense

Opponent / Defense Rank

W. Michigan # 69
Marshall #108
Maryland # 42
E. Carolina # 98
S Florida # 22
Syracuse #110
Mississippi St. # 28
Rutgers # 13
Louisville # 84
Cinncinnati #51
UConn # 31
Pitt # 7

They played 5 Defenses ranked in the Top 31.

Team - Yards gained against them.
South Florida - 437 yards (111 yards over their average)
Mississippi St - 346 yards (5 over their average)
Rutgers - 398 yards (82 over their average)
UCONN - 624 yards (278 over thier average)
Pitt - 183 yards (114 under their average)

[Collier11]

Everybody knows about the offense(4th in rushing per game at 292) but their defense played pretty well this season. Here is some info:

16th in rush defense
4th in total defense
7th in scoring defense
9th in turnover margin
12th in sacks

They run a 3-3-5 defense that features good linebacker play from senior Marc Magro who had 8 sacks. Nose tackle Keilen Dykes is a handle full at 295, often being double teamed. DE Johnny Dingle at 275 also had 8 sacks on the year. Mortty Ivy is also a pretty good linebacker.

They want the 3 down lineman to tie up blockers and allow the speed of playing extra safeties on the outside to prevent running to the outside.

They ll blitz from the outside fairly often sending the safeties or a safety and a linebacker at the same time.

This defense has 7 seniors starting so they have experience back there and have been playing this D since the Todd Graham days..


so what you are saying is that the middle deep should be wide open, and we should be able to run plenty of draws as well as tear up their secondary if we block well?

[Ash]

Thanks for posting, STEP.

[colleyvillesooner]

so what you're saying is we played against a lot of teams that played against teams that run gimmick offenses? ;)

heh.

I don't even know what I'm saying, just kinda gathering data for the masses.

I see your point though, that a good number of the teams we played all had to play us, Tech, OSU and some Mizzou

[Scott D]

West Virginia #4 Total Defense

Opponent / Defense Rank

W. Michigan # 69
Marshall #108
Maryland # 42
E. Carolina # 98
S Florida # 22
Syracuse #110
Mississippi St. # 28
Rutgers # 13
Louisville # 84
Cinncinnati #51
UConn # 31
Pitt # 7

They played 5 Defenses ranked in the Top 31.

Team - Yards gained against them.
South Florida - 437 yards (111 yards over their average)
Mississippi St - 346 yards (5 over their average)
Rutgers - 398 yards (82 over their average)
UCONN - 624 yards (278 over thier average)
Pitt - 183 yards (114 under their average)

Sir, do you believe that Oklahoma could run up 700+ yards of offense against Marshall and Syracuse each?

[colleyvillesooner]

minimum :D

[KHS Sooner]

And South Florida turned out to be a great team ;)

[LesNessman]

On offense:

WV
Rushing: #4
Passing: #113
Total: #19

OU
Rushing: #30
Passing: #37
Total: #18

[KHS Sooner]

WV
Rushing: #4
Passing: #113
Total: #19


Practice stopping that and we win easy.

[rubyspirit]

Rutgers does NOT have a #13 defense. Joke numbers!

[TexasEx4OU]

Practice stopping that and we win easy.

To that point, do we think that WVU has played anyone with the type of team speed that OU has on defense? I'm thinking no...

[douxpaysan]

Without any common opponents, data is almost useless...like this game:rolleyes: http://www.downloadthat.com/images/screen/d089e14dc130cbb075786770d538b211_Tic_Tac_Toe_Extre me.jpg

[Curly Bill]

To that point, do we think that WVU has played anyone with the type of team speed that OU has on defense? I'm thinking no...

Exactly, and it's not even close.

[Scott D]

To that point, do we think that WVU has played anyone with the type of team speed that OU has on defense? I'm thinking no...

I'd say yes, and that team beat West Virginia 21-13 back at the end of September.

[sooneron]

Without any common opponents, data is almost useless...like this game:rolleyes: http://www.downloadthat.com/images/screen/d089e14dc130cbb075786770d538b211_Tic_Tac_Toe_Extre me.jpg
I disagree. I have watched a lot of big lEast games this year (by proximity, not choice) and was not impressed by their league and the competition within...



at all.

I've watched enough football to see a team and think to myself, "This team would give us fits". I don't recall thinking that while watching one big east match up all year.

[snp]

hehe Dingle.

This always makes me laugh as well

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1272/wvudingleberryny9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Crucifax Autumn]

That's great!

[douxpaysan]

I disagree. I have watched a lot of big lEast games this year (by proximity, not choice) and was not impressed by their league and the competition within...



at all.

I've watched enough football to see a team and think to myself, "This team would give us fits". I don't recall thinking that while watching one big east match up all year.
That makes much more sense to me than the futility of running dodgey numbers even though I appreciate the effort. Game planning will be easier I think with the coaching changes. Am betting we won't see much that already isn't on film.

[bluedogok]

Without any common opponents, data is almost useless...
With this year even common opponents is worthless, just look at who OU lost to and who beat them. You'll end up in OSU winning the MNC arguments using "logic" like that. Every game is its own unique set of circumstances.

[douxpaysan]

With this year even common opponents is worthless, just look at who OU lost to and who beat them. You'll end up in OSU winning the MNC arguments using "logic" like that. Every game is its own unique set of circumstances.
Yes, but the stats have a way of telling you not much of anything when you are talking about different conferences and no common opponents. You are right about comparing apples and oranges...and those funny vegetables they put in drinks.:D

[sooneron]

I was merely refuting the fact that someone brought up WV's vaunted D that is ranked 4th. They haven't really played many highly productive offenses this year. Well, not more than one.

[soonerboomer93]

and apperently our vaunted O hasn't played any highly regarded D's this year

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Well..I was impressed with the D.

[sooner518]

Practice stopping that and we win easy.
either we didnt practice stopping it, or you were wrong

[LetsGoMountaineers]

Do the stats really matter at this point?!?!? I think it is sad that people still arent giving the Mountaineers the respect they deserve! They played a heck of a game last night and the Sooners hung in there but last night the Mountaineers wanted it more...and they are a solid team!!!