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mdklatt

11/29/2007, 01:54 AM

How about the tooliest ESPN tool that ever tooled talking about how he's shocked that Oklahoma is the favorite? I'm glad the other guy laid into him. I wouldn't have been surprised if Mizzou was the favorite, but to be shocked and appalled that OU is the favorite given that we beat them once already this year is the sole domain of drooling idiots. If you ever doubted that 95% of sports "journalism" is nothing but ****-stirring to generate ratings, doubt no more. :rolleyes:

Crucifax Autumn

11/29/2007, 02:55 AM

SoonerKnight

11/29/2007, 03:47 AM

I personally hope he keeps talking, does interviews with everyone from sports reporters to Oprah, and put's an OU sucks sticker on the front of his helmet. Though it probably won't be an actual sticker, it'll be a napkin with a big fat booger binding it to his forehead.

It'll be real funny when he's getting hit so hard his mom's uterus starts to ache!

He let one get a way!!!! He must think that AE is not going to play! Stoops said that AE has been practicing and they will make a decision on gameday! That means he probably will play especially since he's been practicing. Oh and Bob also said "Our sole focus right now is to win the Big XII championship!!!!!!!"

SoonerTerry

11/29/2007, 03:50 AM

Well, what did he say?

zeke

11/29/2007, 04:48 AM

Well, what did he say?

DITTO

Seamus

11/29/2007, 05:21 AM

This thread is useless without pict-, er, I mean, quotes.

OUsooner1

11/29/2007, 05:50 AM

SoonerKnight

11/29/2007, 06:31 AM

On OU being favored in the Title Game:

Straight from the nose(?) of Booger Daniel, "For me, it's about a lack of respect. We're No. 1 in the nation and I think any No. 1 in the nation should be favored in any game that they play for the simple reason that they're No. 1."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/112907dnspodaniel.279fd55.html

WOW! I mean WOW!!! What a d ou ch e bag!!!!!! seriously!!!! WOW!!! Your not favored because you didn't beat us before and well their was no one left to give number one to. Really!!!

AlbqSooner

11/29/2007, 06:53 AM

Kansas was favored last week for the simple reason that they were No. 1.
Ponder on THAT Chase.

jk the sooner fan

11/29/2007, 06:59 AM

shouldnt the #1 team be favored over a lower ranked team? why is this getting your panties in a wad

if the tables were turned, we'd be bitching that we werent favored as a #1

Sooner in Tampa

11/29/2007, 07:36 AM

shouldnt the #1 team be favored over a lower ranked team? why is this getting your panties in a wad

if the tables were turned, we'd be bitching that we werent favored as a #1That MAY be true, but the last time, I checked...we already whipped that @$$ one time. And the "line" out of Vegas is not who is favored to win...it is a line that will bring in the most money---pure and simple.

I, for one, am sick and tired of this "lack of respect" cry that comes from every ****ing underdog in every game. Grow up and realize you are now in the big time, act like you have been there before...oh wait, sorry---they haven't been before.

sooner_born_1960

11/29/2007, 07:49 AM

Being "favored" means that the casinos think they'll get an equal amount wagered on both teams. It's not really who they think will win, but how people will bet.

sanantoniosooner

11/29/2007, 07:54 AM

Being "favored" means that the casinos think they'll get an equal amount wagered on both teams. It's not really who they think will win, but how people will bet.
exactly. This is one of the dumbest things I've seen people get worked up over.

TheHumanAlphabet

11/29/2007, 08:10 AM

Wow! From a guy who eats his own boogers...We're doomed!

OKLA21FAN

11/29/2007, 08:20 AM

note to Boogers:

being favored and being ranked number 1 have little to do with each other. for a reference, see the 2000 National Championship game at the Orange Bowl.

MiccoMacey

11/29/2007, 08:21 AM

exactly. This is one of the dumbest things I've seen people get worked up over.

For those of us who do not bet, please explain.

I always thought it showed who they thought would win. They wouldn't give OU +7 against Iowa State just because they thought more people would bet on it would they?

sanantoniosooner

11/29/2007, 08:27 AM

For those of us who do not bet, please explain.

I always thought it showed who they thought would win. They wouldn't give OU +7 against Iowa State just because they thought more people would bet on it would they?
I don't bet either, but I understand how the line works.

The line is set where they think they will get equal number of bets on either side. This allows the money lost to equal the money gained and they skim the "juice" off the top. Juice is the little extra that gets bet that can't be recouped by the better. If you need that explained someone else might do better.

Anyway, this is why you see the line move on some games. The betting will be heavy on one side so they move the line to get people betting the other way.

That is ALL the line means. It's a point spread designed to get people betting equal on both sides.

SouthFortySooner

11/29/2007, 08:28 AM

Doesn't this whole thing speak to what and why the BCS was formulated. Use too, at the end of the bowls there was always, always someone the peoples,(betting public), thought was #1 other than the team chosen. One way to overcome this might be to start the polls in Oct.

mxATVracer10

11/29/2007, 08:37 AM

For those of us who do not bet, please explain.

I always thought it showed who they thought would win. They wouldn't give OU +7 against Iowa State just because they thought more people would bet on it would they?

Yes they would, if it would be beneficial for THEM. But in that scenario with Iowa St. it wouldn't happen since it would be assumed that OU would win. The spread is made with the idea that when the game is finished the final score would be even after adding in the points alloted in the spread. That would cause a "push", which the "line setter" would win. It's pretty eerie how spot on they are most of the time... :eek:

EDIT: Nevermind, SAS said it better :)

mikeelikee

11/29/2007, 10:16 AM

Chase Daniel is a native Texan. That pretty much explains everything.

sanantoniosooner

11/29/2007, 10:18 AM

Chase Daniel is a native Texan. That pretty much explains everything.
Are you suggesting that "All Day" might not mean what we thought it did?

OKLA21FAN

11/29/2007, 10:27 AM

Are you suggesting that "All Day" might not mean what we thought it did?

now you have gone a done it!

sanantoniosooner

11/29/2007, 10:32 AM

not MY hypothesis.

Just trying to get to the bottom of this "native texan" thing.;)

Pricetag

11/29/2007, 10:35 AM

shouldnt the #1 team be favored over a lower ranked team? why is this getting your panties in a wad

if the tables were turned, we'd be bitching that we werent favored as a #1
The fact that being #1 seems to mean so much to them tells me their heads are in the wrong place.

badger

11/29/2007, 10:39 AM

Chase Daniel is a native Texan. That pretty much explains everything.
I married one of those, and he's on this board right now making fun of that the fact that my tiny hands fumble :rolleyes:

And.. half this board probably is, too.

But hey... we all know which team as the better QB and the better WR's and TE's for the QB to throw to or the better RB's for the QB to the hand off to. QB!

GrapevineSooner

11/29/2007, 10:40 AM

This whole thread deserves to be negged.

Oh and Mike?

I'm a native Texan, too. What does that explain about me?

TUSooner

11/29/2007, 10:41 AM

shouldnt the #1 team be favored over a lower ranked team? why is this getting your panties in a wad

if the tables were turned, we'd be bitching that we werent favored as a #1
Yep.
Which merely proves that rankings are bogus. At least the betting line is based (in large part) on where the bookies would stake their livelihood.
They have a better incentive to get it right than journalists and other so-called experts with nothing on the line.

Stoop Dawg

11/29/2007, 10:53 AM

Being "favored" means that the casinos think they'll get an equal amount wagered on both teams. It's not really who they think will win, but how people will bet.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't people bet on who they think will win? So in reality, being "favored" means that the people who are actually putting their hard-earned green-backs on the line think you will win. Being "ranked" means some journalists are talking out their ***.

I'll take "favored".

TUSooner

11/29/2007, 11:01 AM

Being "favored" means that the casinos think they'll get an equal amount wagered on both teams. It's not really who they think will win, but how people will bet.

That's exactly right. But wouldn't you agree that at least the opening line starts with a mostly objective assessment of who will win? I don't think the casinos and bookies presume that the betting public is totally irrational, or even as irrational as, say, a voting coach or Harris pollster. :)

sooner518

11/29/2007, 11:04 AM

Being "favored" means that the casinos think they'll get an equal amount wagered on both teams. It's not really who they think will win, but how people will bet.
id say its an accurate representation of who the betting population thinks will win. its just easier to say one team is "Favored" over another

jeepdad

11/29/2007, 11:19 AM

Yeah, Chase is so disrespectful. From the "Behind the Stripes" column in today's Columbia Tribune:

BTS: This Oklahoma defense, is this the best pass-rushing team you’ve faced?

Daniel: Them and Illinois, without a doubt. The best pass defense we can face is a good pass rush. They did a great job doing that the first game. They’re strong, they’re fast, they get off the ball quick. Our line’s going to have their job cut out for them, but I have all the faith in them.

BTS: Do they throw more at you in terms of coverages and blitz packages?

Daniel: Not really with their pass rush. They’re pretty straight with what they want to do. They want to go at us hard, bring blitzes, bring jets from the side and mix up coverages. They do a great job of that. Coach (Brent) Venables does an excellent job of getting his guys prepared. He wants everyone to know the defense in and out, and they all do. They all respect him because he’s a great coach.

BTS: Last time you said it all starts with their safeties. I assume that’s still true.

Daniel: You look at Nic Harris, and he’s one of the best players in the nation at any position. He’s having an outstanding year. He’s going to be in the NFL for quite a while. So he’s going to be key for us.

***

Daniel is such an ***!!

sooner_born_1960

11/29/2007, 11:27 AM

That's exactly right. But wouldn't you agree that at least the opening line starts with a mostly objective assessment of who will win? I don't think the casinos and bookies presume that the betting public is totally irrational, or even as irrational as, say, a voting coach or Harris pollster. :)
http://sportsgambling.about.com/od/sportsgamblingbasics/a/line_making.htm
Gives a good explanation. Their point is that the oddsmakers aren't trying to predict the actual outcome, just the point where betting is equal.

sanantoniosooner

11/29/2007, 11:35 AM

http://sportsgambling.about.com/od/sportsgamblingbasics/a/line_making.htm
Gives a good explanation. Their point is that the oddsmakers aren't trying to predict the actual outcome, just the point where betting is equal.
that site almost explained it as well as I did ;)

fwsooner22

11/29/2007, 11:40 AM

Ummmmm......I wonder how many native Texans are on our football team. Forget how many are on this board.......Wow!

It is apparent that we need Saturday to get here and fast........

By the way SAS almost always says it better than anyone else. That's just the way it is!

Big Red Ron

11/29/2007, 11:42 AM

Now he comparing our D to Illinios? WTF - dude's going to be eating boogers next.

LRoss

11/29/2007, 01:04 PM

Only real issue is being upset over respect. Who cares? If you're playing for respect, probably LSU still gets the most in the nation, but they won't play for the nice trophy. Play to win. Respect is irrelevant.

mdklatt

11/29/2007, 01:11 PM

I always thought it showed who they thought would win. They wouldn't give OU +7 against Iowa State just because they thought more people would bet on it would they?

It doesn't show who the odds makers think will win, but in an indirect way it shows who people placing bets think will win. The line is set so that there are an equal number of winners and losers. The bookies make their money on a percentage of all the money wagered (a "service fee" for placing the bet); they don't care who wins or loses. In the example you give, there would be a lot more money on OU and the bookies wouldn't be able to cover the wins.*

*I've never placed a bet in my life so I may be talking out of my ***, but this is my understanding of the process.

mdklatt

11/29/2007, 01:13 PM

And.. half this board probably is, too.

I'm not a native, but I mostly grew up here so I consider myself a Texan despite having lived in Norman longer than anywhere else.

:texan:

bluedogok

11/29/2007, 01:45 PM

I am a born and raised Okie (37 years) living in Texas (6.5 years).
I will NEVER consider myself a Texan no matter how long I live here.

mrjeffmaxwell

11/30/2007, 12:04 AM

So has anyone found the video of Chase saying he feels disrespected?

goingoneight

11/30/2007, 12:27 AM

mrjeffmaxwell

11/30/2007, 12:51 AM

Yo man, I'm talking about a video of Chase Daniel looking seriously stupid and I guarantee you that any OU player would be ****ed off to see this. He is talking about how it's disrespectful that OU is favored to win. And it's more than just his words, it's his face when he says them.

goingoneight

11/30/2007, 12:59 AM

Yeah... and Larry Birdine was an ******* in regards to USC, prior to TGWWDNSO also.

Derrick Strait said OSU "got lucky" in 2001. I love the Sooners to death, but my God people... they're college guys. Not everyone is going to have the composure Heupel and AD dis at that age. In fact, most of OUr team right now probably is a little high on themselves, too. Hope not, but I'd wager so.

mrjeffmaxwell

11/30/2007, 01:18 AM

I'm a college guy. I know stupid when I see stupid. This had nothing to do with confidence, sir, this was just plain stupid. It failed logically, which is why it's so good if I'd be able to watch it again.

birddog

11/30/2007, 01:27 AM

whatever happened to your vids, jeffery?

and yeah, you might be taking the quotes a little too seriously. birdine was talking trash, chase just said he felt disrespected. nothing to worry about.

cvsooner

11/30/2007, 01:44 AM

The whole thing is just to pump interest in the game, anyway. And Stoops is reaching deep down to find something to get his team fired up for, seeing as it's a road game and all. Whatever works.

By the same token, Mizzou could feel a little disrespected. If we were ranked # 1 and another team was favored, we wouldn't like it either. The Sooners need to stay focused on this game and keep Daniel from throwing TDs, ruining his Heisman trophy chances and knocking them out of the national title game...because that's how we will win the Big 12.

Boomer!

Crucifax Autumn

11/30/2007, 03:41 AM

Yep...and when we feel that way jackholes nationwide call us whiners, so now it's OUR turn!

sanantoniosooner

11/30/2007, 07:47 AM

I wonder how many around here have a history of breaking remotes.

jeepdad

11/30/2007, 10:13 AM

They're too busy talking about where they live.

BTW, everyone should really stop worrying about misquotes... Mizzou continues to show respect. People are making way too much out of this whole "we gave the game away" scenario. You know how many times in my day I've heard that from football players and coaches?

Guess what... Chase Daniel ain't the first and won't be the last to say this stuff, guys.

Believe me, Mizzou respects OU. There have been much more inflammatory things said in college sports than, "We beat ourselves." In fact, that phrase is one of the most used cliches in sports -- for a reason. Daniel has said numerous times that you just can't turn the ball over against a team like Oklahoma and expect to win.

One would hope a Big 12 Championship trophy would be enough to motivate players without having to resort to making up controversies.

sanantoniosooner

11/30/2007, 10:23 AM

One would hope a Big 12 Championship trophy would be enough to motivate players without having to resort to making up controversies.
well........yeah.........for a team that doesn't have any.......;)

olevetonahill

11/30/2007, 11:37 AM

shouldnt the #1 team be favored over a lower ranked team? why is this getting your panties in a wad

if the tables were turned, we'd be bitching that we werent favored as a #1
Sheesh JK it gives us sompun else to LOL at em for .

cheezyq

11/30/2007, 12:51 PM

Believe me, Mizzou respects OU. There have been much more inflammatory things said in college sports than, "We beat ourselves." In fact, that phrase is one of the most used cliches in sports -- for a reason. Daniel has said numerous times that you just can't turn the ball over against a team like Oklahoma and expect to win.

One would hope a Big 12 Championship trophy would be enough to motivate players without having to resort to making up controversies.

Why do you keep using the word "controversy"? It's not a controversy. That would be like saying that the OU/Oregon game last year was a "controversy". The facts are what they are. Your players said what they said, regardless of how they meant to portray it when they said it.

I don't care if CD or anyone on your team meant to show disrespect or not. It came out that way, and Stoops and co. can use it however they want. Heck, CD is using the betting line to motivate his fellow players. Yet you mention nothing of that.

You can't sit there and say that OU NEEDS this for motivation either, any more than you can say that MU NEEDS to feel disrespected by being the "underdog". Both teams have plenty to play for. But if Stoops wants to give his players that extra edge to get them playing mad, then there's nothing wrong with that and certainly not an indication that OU is "in trouble".