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Collier11
11/28/2007, 12:00 PM
Oklahoma (10-2) vs. Missouri (11-1)

Dec. 1, 8:00 p.m. ET, ABC

For the second straight week, Missouri and the Big 12 will be on college football's center stage with some extremely interested parties all across the country glued to their TVs, especially in Columbus, Ohio.

Obviously this is an important game, and not just because a Missouri win would mean a spot in the national championship, and not just because it's the Big 12 title game. It could mean an official changing of the conference guard, or at least inclusion into the VIP lounge for Missouri, or it'll mean it's business as usual and that this entire season might be an aberration.
National Rankings
Oklahoma Missouri
Total Offense
17th 457.58 ypg 5th 507.33 ypg
Total Defense
18th 324.58 ypg 60th 380.75 ypg
Scoring Offense
3rd 43.83 ppg 6th 41.92 ppg
Scoring Defense
10th 18.25 ppg 39th 23.42 ppg
Run Offense
28th 193.92 ypg 40th 170.5 ypg
Run Defense
7th 91.42 ypg 25th 114.92 ypg
Pass Offense
35th 263.67 ypg 5th 336.83 ypg
Pass Defense
70th 233.17 ypg 103rd 265.83 ypg
Turnover Margin
19th 0.67 11th 1.00

Oklahoma
No Texas W 79-10
Miami W 51-13
Utah State W 54-3
at Tulsa W 62-21
at Colorado L 27-24
vs. Texas W 28-21
Missouri W 41-31
at Iowa State W 17-7
Texas A&M W 42-14
Baylor W 52-21
at Tex Tech L 34-27
Oklahoma St W 49-17

Missouri
Illinois W 40-34
at Ole Miss W 38-25
West Mich W 52-24
Illinois St W 38-17
Nebraska W 41-6
at Okla L 41-31
Tex Tech W 41-10
Iowa State W 42-28
at Col. W 55-10
Tex A&M W 40-26
at Kan St W 49-32
Kansas W 36-28


Position Ratings relative to each other

5 highest 1 lowest

OK M
5 Quarterbacks 5
4 RBs 3.5
5 Receivers 5
5 O Line 4.5
4 D Line 4
4.5 Linebackers 3.5
4 Secondary 2.5
4.5 Spec Teams 4
5 Coaching 4


Unlike Kansas State, who fell completely off the face of the earth after winning the 2003 Big 12 Championship, Missouri appears to have a staying power with a relatively young team with most of the key parts coming back. Even so, this is the year. This is the team. Oklahoma isn't going to get any worse, Texas is only going to be better, and the rest of the Big 12 appears to be improving, so while the Tigers might be loaded going into 2008, the time is now to pounce on a once-in-a-lifetime shot to play for the national title.

For Oklahoma, it's another year and yet another trip to the Big 12 Championship, but despite being the favorite, this is the first time it doesn't enter the game as the biggest, baddest mothers around. While loaded with as much talent as anyone in America, problems on the road, including a loss at Texas Tech and a near-miss at Iowa State, have eliminated an aura of invincibility that only a big end to the season might bring back.

On a national scale, OU is still suffering from a bit of a big game perception problem. In a case of the one or two negatives being far more prominent than the hundreds of positives, this is still the program that had a team on its way becoming an all-timer in 2003 before getting ripped apart by Kansas State in the title game. This was the team that got the benefit of the doubt in 2004 only to get pantsed by USC in the Orange Bowl. This was the team that lost to Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl. A win this week wouldn't erase those memories, but beating the nation's top-ranked team, especially if it comes in impressive fashion, would mean that all is right in the OU world.

Meanwhile, this is unchartered territory for Mizzou, a program that hadn't won more than eight games in a season since 1969. Traditionally a doormat for the Sooners, both in Big 8 and Big 12 play, the Tigers have lost 18 of the last 20 games in the series and fumbled away a 41-31 loss in Norman earlier this season. Just getting to the Big 12 title game for the first time would normally be enough to call this a successful season, but at this point, with the national title in the balance, a loss would be a bitter pill to swallow.

The general feeling among the Tigers is that they had them. They had the Sooners beaten on October 13th when Chase Daniel threw for 361 yards and the offense outgained OU 418 yards to 384, but lost on because of four turnovers, including a late fumble returned for a touchdown.. That and three Chris Brown touchdown runs gave the Sooners the win, but Mizzou is ultra-confident that it can win the rematch because it knows what it's doing now, isn't intimated by the big game, and has top running back Tony Temple, who was out against OU the first time around with an ankle injury.

Fifth in the nation in total offense and sixth in scoring, Missouri is the only team in America that has scored 35 points or more in every game this season while going over 40 eight times. This is a fully-functioning juggernaut of an offense that's every bit worthy of being ranked No. 1.

However, for many, there's still the "show me" factor.

It's hard to find anyone who really believes this is the best team in America considering the best wins came over Illinois in the season opener before it really turned the corner and became a fringe BCS team, and against a Kansas team that didn't beat anyone. Beating Oklahoma would change any and all negative perceptions.

So here we go. It's the established superstar vs. the newcomer to the party. It's either the Fiesta for the Sooners or the BCS Championship for the Tigers. Considering how high both teams are ranked and what's at stake, it's the most important Big 12 game ever.

And it should live up to the hype.

Players to watch: All season long, Missouri junior QB Chase Daniel was putting up nice numbers as the conductor for the ultra-efficient Tiger offensive machine. Few outside the Big 12 saw him play or paid too much attention, but the buzz started to build and build and build. And then with the spotlight on, he put together his magnum opus; a 40-of-49, 361-yard, three touchdown performance in the win over Kansas to get into the Heisman picture. If he does that again and beats Oklahoma, he'll go from being the third wheel behind Tim Tebow and Darren McFadden to the the likely winner. If Missouri plays for the national championship, the argument will be made that Daniel was the most valuable player on the nation's best team, and that should be enough to complete the furious scramble for the prize.

Against Oklahoma the first time around, he completed 37 of 47 passes for 361 yards and a touchdown, but he turned it over three times and couldn't get the offense moving late to slow down the Sooner momentum. He had the same issues kick-starting the offense last week against KU when Todd Reesing and the boys had started heating up, and while he's efficient and accurate, and has decent mobility, it'll be all about getting the chains moving. He has to be razor-sharp from the first minute to 60 against a Sooner attack that can put up points on the board with breathtaking quickness.

As good as Daniel has been this season, and even though he might win the Heisman, he wasn't the Big 12's best passer. Oklahoma redshirt freshman Sam Bradford led the nation in passing efficiency completing 70% of his throws throws for 2,678 yards and a freshman record 32 touchdowns with a mere seven interceptions in one of the great first seasons for any college quarterback ever. The attack wasn't the same after he got knocked out of the Texas Tech game with a concussion, but all questions about his coconut were quickly answered against Oklahoma State with an 11-of-15, 150-yard, four touchdown performance. It's a bit too simplistic to suggest that as he goes, so goes OU, but his worst game of the year, and the only two pick performance, came in the loss to Colorado, and he missed almost the entire Texas Tech game. The Sooners were 10-0 against everyone else.

While the quarterbacks are the stars of the show, 5-9, 200-pound senior Tony Temple, the team's leading rusher who wasn't around for the first game against the Sooners, could be the difference maker. Without coming out and saying it, the Tigers appear to believe they would've won in Norman had Temple not been out with an ankle injury. Fumbles have been an issues throughout his career, but he's lightning quick, can cut on a dime, and is great at taking advantage of defenses that spend too much time worrying about Daniel and the short passing game. Don't expect to see him as a receiver; he's a runner.

Oklahoma will win if... the team plays with a swagger. Over the last few years, no team has been as moody as Oklahoma. When it's off, the energy level appears to dip to zero until it gets to desperation time, and this isn't a team traditionally great at pulling off comeback wins. However, when it's on, and it everything is working, this is an unstoppable juggernaut that can simply outtalent the Tigers. Missouri is great, really great, but it doesn't have the top-to-bottom skill OU has.

The Tigers might have gone into a bit of a prevent defense against Kansas when they got picked apart in the second half, but they also had problems in the first half despite generating a strong pass rush. KU imploded every bit as much as MU made things happen. The Tigers likely won't generate the same pressure they did against the Jayhawks, and their mediocre secondary could get picked clean. In the first game, Mizzou generated just one sack and Bradford threw for 266 yards and two touchdowns. He should hit 300 yards this week.
Missouri will win if... Oklahoma realizes its not playing in Memorial Stadium. At home this year, Oklahoma went 7-0, including wins over Miami, Missouri, Texas A&M and Oklahoma State, by a combined score of 369 to 109 (52.7 to 15.6), while away from home, against Tulsa, Colorado, Texas, Iowa State and Texas Tech, the Sooners went a pedestrian 3-2, outscoring teams by a combined score of 158 to 110 (31.6 to 22). Meanwhile, Missouri has been strong away from home beating Illinois, an Ole Miss team that was tough at home against the SEC, Colorado and Kansas State to go along with the Kansas win and the tough loss to OU.

The Sooner secondary can be beaten by an effective passing attack. Daniel was fantastic in the first meeting, Texas Tech's Graham Harrell did whatever he wanted, and throughout the year, any quarterback talented enough to get the ball out of his hands in a hurry had some success. The Tiger run defense will give up a few yards to the Sooner ground attack, but it's not going to be run over consistently enough for Allen Patrick and Chris Brown to be able to control the game. This will be Daniel vs. Bradford. The one who makes the fewest mistakes will win.

What will happen: This should be a shootout of the highest order with several momentum swings and several ebbs and flows. Both quarterbacks will be terrific and both offenses will put on a great show, but in the end, Oklahoma's defense will be a wee bit better than Missouri's. The Tiger secondary will look great for a few series and then will be lit up by Bradford and his NFL receiving corps. Despite being the favorite, OU will relish the role of being the rankings underdog and will carry over the momentum from the Oklahoma State win.

Line: Oklahoma -3 ... CFN Prediction: Oklahoma 42 ... Missouri 38

IowaSooner26
11/28/2007, 12:18 PM
Meanwhile, this is unchartered territory for Mizzou, a program that hadn't won more than eight games in a season since 1969. Traditionally a doormat for the Sooners, both in Big 8 and Big 12 play, the Tigers have lost 18 of the last 20 games in the series and fumbled away a 41-31 loss in Norman earlier this season. Just getting to the Big 12 title game for the first time would normally be enough to call this a successful season, but at this point, with the national title in the balance, a loss would be a bitter pill to swallow.

Fifth in the nation in total offense and sixth in scoring, Missouri is the only team in America that has scored 35 points or more in every game this season while going over 40 eight times. This is a fully-functioning juggernaut of an offense that's every bit worthy of being ranked No. 1.



Huh?

cheezyq
11/28/2007, 12:31 PM
Huh?

LOL. I was laughing about that too. He even says OU won 41-31, and then says that right after it. Shows he's paying attention to what he's writing. :rolleyes:

cvsooner
11/28/2007, 12:39 PM
cfn is a fun read but those guys make a lot of mistakes. Always have.

Desert Sapper
11/28/2007, 12:49 PM
This is a pretty good analysis. Mizzou has a scary good offense and so do we. This will come down to a few critical stops and turnovers.

Forever A Tiger
11/28/2007, 12:56 PM
He also made the same mistake so many national writers do in comparing stats for all games rather than conference games. Two problems with including them all. They include the 4 games in September and no team is the same in November or December as they were in September. Plus everyone plays a completely different schedule ion OOC games.

Looking at Mizzou's stats for 12 games would lead one to believe they have an average defense at best. However, looking at the stats for the 8 conference games when many if not most of the oppenents are the same one would notice that Mizzou's defense actually ranked in the top 3 in both rushing and passing defense, #1 in passing efficiency defense, and #1 in total defense. And those stats were mostly compiled without their best defensive player, Pig Brown.

Then again I'm glad most are ignoring those because I would much prefer to be the underdog.

Larry&Leisa
11/28/2007, 01:03 PM
3 and outs baby !

Collier11
11/28/2007, 01:03 PM
He also made the same mistake so many national writers do in comparing stats for all games rather than conference games. Two problems with including them all. They include the 4 games in September and no team is the same in November or December as they were in September. Plus everyone plays a completely different schedule ion OOC games.

Looking at Mizzou's stats for 12 games would lead one to believe they have an average defense at best. However, looking at the stats for the 8 conference games when many if not most of the oppenents are the same one would notice that Mizzou's defense actually ranked in the top 3 in both rushing and passing defense, #1 in passing efficiency defense, and #1 in total defense. And those stats were mostly compiled without their best defensive player, Pig Brown.

Then again I'm glad most are ignoring those because I would much prefer to be the underdog.

win a big game and then talk...and no, kansas wasnt a big game! If you guys beat us then you can talk! :D

85sooners
11/28/2007, 01:04 PM
sooners win by 21

Forever A Tiger
11/28/2007, 01:20 PM
sooners win by 21

You're quite the comedian.

TexasEx4OU
11/28/2007, 01:31 PM
"...fumbled away a 41-31 loss in Norman...".

For the one billionth time...two Iglesias fumbles led to 14 MU points. Oh, and we missed four PATs. Scrub all the "mistakes" out of this one, and OU still wins by two TDs.

Geebus...

hellogoodbye
11/28/2007, 02:23 PM
they had to throw in a swaggah too...

:rolleyes:

Saueyman
11/28/2007, 02:24 PM
:eek:

yermom
11/28/2007, 02:40 PM
"swagger" and "scary good"

this thread has it all.

i don't see a 42-38 game, i just don't see it

i don't like our chances in a shootout :O

Collier11
11/28/2007, 02:54 PM
37-24 OU, I feel that score down in my loins...mmmmmmmm!

SoonerStormchaser
11/28/2007, 04:03 PM
You're quite the comedian.


Dude, we're gonna be the ones laughing Saturday night when we send you back into the closet where you belong.

Flying Scotsman
11/28/2007, 04:21 PM
Touchdown! Jesus!

MojoRisen
11/28/2007, 04:39 PM
I believe if we come out with high energy and want the championship - every play with intensity -

We win by 21 -

42 -21

SOONERS

stoopified
11/28/2007, 04:50 PM
Why is it we get grief for beating ISU 17-7 but Missou catches no grief for winning 42-28 against ISU?As fo bashing us for losing to TT,what would happen to MU if Chase went down?

Collier11
11/28/2007, 04:54 PM
what would happen to MU if Chase went down?

He would comfort himself by eating more boogers! :D :D

Jason White's Third Knee
11/28/2007, 05:05 PM
Why is it we get grief for beating ISU 17-7 but Missou catches no grief for winning 42-28 against ISU?As fo bashing us for losing to TT,what would happen to MU if Chase went down?


Chase goes down all the time. The fayg.


Yes. That was immature. I know.

Jason White's Third Knee
11/28/2007, 05:08 PM
He would comfort himself by eating more boogers! :D :D


My five year old daugther does that and laughs (she's a gross one). I always tell her to "Stop Chase Danielsing those!"

SOONERxWife73
11/28/2007, 06:09 PM
:P

lucky1234
11/28/2007, 07:27 PM
Danairo Alexander was hurt for the OU game. Check the KU stats. Be afraid.

SoonerKnight
11/28/2007, 07:59 PM
Danairo Alexander was hurt for the OU game. Check the KU stats. Be afraid.



Afraid of what that we'll have to watch the third string play in the beginning of the third qtr?????? OU wins by 24+ pts!!!


:D

aero
11/28/2007, 08:26 PM
We've won 4 out of 5 B12 titles. That trophy is ours. Seems like we have all world talent but seem to be lacking the attitude we had from 2000 to, well, just before the '03 B12 title game. Seems like ever since we haven't played to our abilities game in and game out. If we can turn the corner, look out next year.

Easting
11/28/2007, 08:55 PM
Sooners win by 5 touchdowns.

Oh...and Packers win in Dallas by 2 touchdowns. Write it down.

Forever A Tiger
11/28/2007, 10:07 PM
Hey, you might win the game but those of you who are predicting you will win by 3 TDs or that you will hold us to 21 points are living in LaLa land.

Smack is fine but at least it should have a little substance to it or it's both dumb and worthless.

There are plenty of Mizzou fans on Tigerboard who get carried away but none of them are that far out in left field.

I've also got news for those who think that just because you have won the Big XII several times previously you will win this time. That doesn't guarantee you a thing. You still have to earn it on the field.

Collier11
11/28/2007, 10:15 PM
I've also got news for those who think that just because you have won the Big XII several times previously you will win this time. That doesn't guarantee you a thing. You still have to earn it on the field.


in other news, al gore invented the internet!!!:D

jwlynn64
11/28/2007, 10:44 PM
Hey, you might win the game but those of you who are predicting you will win by 3 TDs or that you will hold us to 21 points are living in LaLa land.


I'm not one to predict the future but I can judge by what happened the last time we played. Mizzou scored 24 points the last time we met (before you start, we all know that the final touchdown did not happen).

Maybe the 21 point prediction is because we're thinking that we will not fumble and give your team the ball on our 30 yard line and basically gift your team seven points.

If you think that it is pie in the sky to predict that our D can shave 3 points off of the total points that you scored in the last game that you played us (with our team running the ball more effectively and apparently your fan base is sure that you will be able to do the same) then I'm certain that I know who is living in La La land.