BCS is Released

[SteelClip49]

http://cfn.scout.com/a.z?s=451&p=2&c=557949

[soonerboomer93]

1 LSU 2742 0.9793 1457 0.9713 0.990 0.9802
2 Oregon 2651 0.9468 1407 0.9380 0.930 0.9383
3 Kansas 2498 0.8921 1344 0.8960 0.940 0.9094
4 Oklahoma 2580 0.9214 1366 0.9107 0.730 0.8540
5 Missouri 2248 0.8029 1194 0.7960 0.830 0.8096
6 West Va 2278 0.8136 1238 0.8253 0.720 0.7863
7 Ohio State 2100 0.7500 1145 0.7633 0.810 0.7744
8 Arizona St 1919 0.6854 1042 0.6947 0.870 0.7500
9 Georgia 1840 0.6571 1005 0.6700 0.690 0.6724
10 Va Tech 1665 0.5946 923 0.6153 0.630 0.6133
11 USC 1561 0.5575 814 0.5427 0.480 0.5267
12 Florida 1335 0.4768 686 0.4573 0.580 0.5047
13 Texas 1639 0.5854 844 0.5627 0.250 0.4660
14 Virginia 973 0.3475 547 0.3647 0.510 0.4074
15 Clemson 985 0.3518 548 0.3653 0.460 0.3924
16 Hawaii 1641 0.5861 842 0.5613 0.010 0.3858
17 Boston Coll 928 0.3314 505 0.3367 0.420 0.3627
18 Boise St 1052 0.3757 556 0.3707 0.040 0.2621
19 Illinois 542 0.1936 271 0.1807 0.360 0.2447
20 Tennessee 655 0.2339 306 0.2040 0.280 0.2393
21 Michigan 440 0.1571 259 0.1727 0.230 0.1866
22 Cincinnati 373 0.1332 163 0.1087 0.310 0.1840
23 Kentucky 526 0.1879 304 0.2027 0.130 0.1735
24 Connecticut 239 0.0854 103 0.0687 0.290 0.1480
25 Wisconsin 393 0.1404 226 0.1507 0.070 0.1203

[stoops the eternal pimp]

looks about right

[85sooners]

:cool:

[insuranceman_22]

Pretty simple, the tigers or the quakers are going to have to lose and we need to take care of business.

[Widescreen]

Pretty simple, the tigers or the quakers are going to have to lose and we need to take care of business.
How does Penn have anything to do with the BCS?

[TexasEx4OU]

Pretty simple, the tigers or the quakers are going to have to lose and we need to take care of business.

UPenn is ranked ahead of us?

[bri]

nickname skills = FAIL.

[colleyvillesooner]

man that's a good ways back. I guess we'll have to jump Oregon in the polls or come damn close. Win out and our computer ranking should only improve.

I'd rather just win out and have one of them lose :D

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Weber State must have been 26

[aero]

Wow. The computers are dragging us down. I thought after usuc cried that we got into the Sugar they put more emphasis on the polls. We're 3rd in every poll I found but the computers drag us to 4th. I've always thought the computers could be useful and pertinent as far as s.o.s., etc. but some of the computer rankings I've seen are a joke. Oh well. We just need to keep winning and it will either be or it won't.

[StoopTroup]

Hey...I wouldn't mind if Oregon wasn't in the mix but I like where we are right now.

On to Lubbock and back Home for bOUncing a bullet off OUr chest.

[MiccoMacey]

KU=screwed. Royally. :mad:

[sooner94]

Why does Missouri have a better computer ranking than us? Same record, and we beat them.

The computer polls are $%^&^ing $&#@$$hit.

I guess it doesn't matter anyways. Either LSU or the Ducks need to lose. If we win out, we will have a win over either Missou or Kansas, so no one behind us will catch us.

I would love a match-up in New Orleans against either LSU or the Ducks.

[jeepdad]

Why does Missouri have a better computer ranking than us? Same record, and we beat them.

Mizzou fan here.

Because Mizzou's one loss was to a Top 5 team; your one loss was to CU, a team we clubbed by 45 points.

[tommieharris91]

Illinois win over Ohio State helped Mizzou's computer numbers. That, and losing to a 9-1 team looks better than losing to a 5-6 team.

[colleyvillesooner]

Wow. The computers are dragging us down. I thought after usuc cried that we got into the Sugar they put more emphasis on the polls. We're 3rd in every poll I found but the computers drag us to 4th. I've always thought the computers could be useful and pertinent as far as s.o.s., etc. but some of the computer rankings I've seen are a joke. Oh well. We just need to keep winning and it will either be or it won't.

It's not the rank in the polls, it's the total number of vote points you get. So we're 3rd in the polls, but KU is only behind us 82 pts in one poll and 22 pts in the other. So you don't necessarily have to jump someone, just get real close.

[tulsaoilerfan]

I was concerned we wouldn't even move up a spot; could anyone behind us realistically catch us if we win out?

[colleyvillesooner]

not likely, unless we win the next 3 games (provided we make the CG) by 1 point each. Then, we'd start dropping in the polls probably.

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

It's not the rank in the polls, it's the total number of vote points you get. So we're 3rd in the polls, but KU is only behind us 82 pts in one poll and 22 pts in the other. So you don't necessarily have to jump someone, just get real close.


Yes and presumably if we beat KU in the CCG I would think those that voted them #1 would likely change their vote to us.

[Jello Biafra]

Why does Missouri have a better computer ranking than us? Same record, and we beat them.

Mizzou fan here.

Because Mizzou's one loss was to a Top 5 team; your one loss was to CU, a team we clubbed by 45 points.


meh....they didn't show up to play you. they are turning into northwest oklahoma state. they beat us and that's all they care about for the rest of the season so they cashed in early....


whatever...dude clubbed? with that mickey mouse shiit you guys threw out there against us? im surprised you guys managed 45 at all much less beating them BY 45....

[cheezyq]

Why does Missouri have a better computer ranking than us? Same record, and we beat them.

Because since 2000, the computer formulas have been stripped of every criteria that makes them objective and realistic.

[Stitch Face]

Why does Missouri have a better computer ranking than us? Same record, and we beat them.

Mizzou fan here.

Because Mizzou's one loss was to a Top 5 team; your one loss was to CU, a team we clubbed by 45 points.

I still can't believe that whom each team lost to is more important than the fact that one beat the other IN AN ACTUAL GAME AGAINST EACH OTHER. The BCS cares more about the "quality" of a loss than who actually wins in head-to-head competition.

I can see ranking Mizzou ahead of OU if we had the same records, had not played one another, and Mizzou lost to a clearly better opponent than did OU.

BUT WE HAVE ALREADY PLAYED EACH OTHER AND OU WON. Unbelievable.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Doesn't matter, we'll be in the CCG and the National Championship game and they'll be playing in a December bowl, so they can suck my toe.

[kevpks]

The OU win over Mizzou is the least talked about quality win nationally. The few times I have heard the game mentioned it is something to the effect of: "Missouri gave the Sooners all they could handle in Norman." Yet I hear about the size of Lester's grapes every week.

[Crucifax Autumn]

LEster doesn't have grapes...He has raisins.

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

meh....they didn't show up to play you. they are turning into northwest oklahoma state. they beat us and that's all they care about for the rest of the season so they cashed in early....


whatever...dude clubbed? with that mickey mouse shiit you guys threw out there against us? im surprised you guys managed 45 at all much less beating them BY 45....


Didn't we just club the same A&M team that nearly beat MU in Columbia? I'm not saying that MU isn't good or isn;'t a dangerous team but if the Big 12 didn't have a CCG then OU should definitely be ahead of MU based upon the head-to-head matchup.

[MiccoMacey]

Remember, the computers won't even themselves out until the last game is played. Until then, they are still being tweaked.

But give Missouri their due...they've played a great season so far.

[colleyvillesooner]

Yes and presumably if we beat KU in the CCG I would think those that voted them #1 would likely change their vote to us.

That's giving the voters a LOT of credit...;)

[BIG_IKE]

Why is a 3 loss Florida team ranked so high????
Why is an undefeated Kansas not ranked Higher?
Why did OU and saxet move up one spot but Florida moved up THREE SPOTS after beating an unranked team?
Why do I think there are 5 to 6 teams in the Big 12 that can beat most of the Teams listed in the "BCS TOP 15"?:pop:

Why is the Big 12 looking like the nations premier conference :D

[Widescreen]

It's self-evident. 3 losses in the SEC is equivalent to undefeated in the Big XII.

[bri]

Why do I think there are 5 to 6 teams in the Big 12 that can beat most of the Teams listed in the "BCS TOP 15"?

Why is the Big 12 looking like the nations premier conference :D


'Cause you're a homer?

[SoonerBOI]

CFN's BCS breakdown. Long article but worth to read it.

BCS Breakdown ... Analyzing the Top Ten

CollegeFootballNews.com
Posted Nov 11, 2007
What does each top team need to do to get into the BCS and stay in the title hunt? Along with the jump made by DeMarco Murray's Oklahoma Sooners, here's the breakdown and analysis of the latest installment of the BCS rankings with what it all means for the top teams. Who won, who lost and what might end up happening?

BCS Rankings | Computer Rankings

One falls, and everyone takes a step up.

From LSU down to West Virginia, the teams ranked second through sixth last week all moved up one spot with Ohio State freefalling from the unquestioned number one to an also-ran seventh. Not only did the Buckeyes topple, but they fell so far that any dream of being in the discussion along with the other one-loss teams for a spot the BCS Championship game is now gone.

Things will get more and more interesting over the next few weeks, with the Big 12 playing a bigger role in the debate. LSU isn't just number one, it's number one with 25-mile wide gap before getting to Oregon. The Ducks are on a relative island, a solid 0.0289 ahead of Kansas, but if the Jayhawks win out that'll mean they'll have beaten No. 5 Missouri to get to No. 4 Oklahoma in the Big 12 championship to go 13-0. As the lone unbeaten among the BCS conferences, the pollsters would all but assure Mark Mangino's club of a spot in the title game, meaning Oregon will be out in the cold.

What happens if Oklahoma wins out? That'll mean it'll have beaten either No. 3 Kansas, or what will be No. 3 or 4 Missouri if the Tigers beat the Jayhawks. Will that be enough to leapfrog the Sooners over the Ducks? The same applies to Missouri, who will have beaten No. 3 Kansas and No. 4 Oklahoma if it wins the Big 12 championship. Assuming Chase Daniel and the boys get by Kansas State this week, will that be enough to get by Oregon?

For the Ducks, it's all about style points now. Playing at UCLA, at Arizona and then getting Oregon State at home in the Civil War, there aren't any chances left to make an impact on a national scale. That's why it'll be vital to be razor-sharp. Even a close win might mean the national championship dream is gone.

Of course, things quickly change again if LSU gets upset by Arkansas in the regular season finale or in the SEC championship game. In other words, there's plenty of football yet to be played, and plenty of arguments and debates out there to keep the message boards and talk shows buzzing.

Also remember how the WAC fits into the mix. If a non-BCS team finishes in the top 12 it's automatically in, or if it finishes in the top 16, and ahead of a champion of BCS conference, it's in. Hawaii stayed at 16 this week, but Boise State moved up from 20 to 18 and within range to potentially move up much higher as other teams start to lose. If the Broncos and Warriors don't lose again until they play each other on November 23rd, the winner will almost be assured of an at-large spot.

Don’t forget that the BCS takes the entire season into account, so there will be wild changes from the computers as the year goes on, but the two human polls will be the biggest factors.

The Big Winners: The three top Big 12 teams (Kansas, Oklahoma and Missouri), USC (17th to 11th), Clemson (21st to 15th)
The Big Losers: Ohio State (1st to 7th), Boston College (8th to 17th), Michigan (12th to 21st)

1. LSU Score: 0.9802 Last Week: 2
The Tigers have moved up to the number one spot with enough of a cushion over everyone else to be assured of a spot in the national championship if they win out. With Arkansas and the SEC Championship still to play, getting respect from the rest of the schedule isn't an issue. The computers certainly think this is the most deserving team with four of the six putting it in the top spot. It's not just about maintaining focus and winning out. Style points probably don't matter at this point.
predicted wins: at Ole Miss, Arkansas, SEC Championship
predicted losses: None
predicted record: 12-1
predicted bowl: BCS Championship
toughest test: Arkansas (if not the SEC Championship)

2. Oregon Score: 0.9383 Last Week: 3
If the computers don't but into Oregon now, which they don't when it comes to a spot in the top two, they never will. Of course it all comes down to the human polls, and they'll be debating the idea of the Ducks vs. the Big 12 champion for the next few weeks. It won't just be enough to win right now, the wins have to be dominating. As crazy as this might sound, the play of QB Dennis Dixon in his Heisman hunt will play a big role. If he rolls over the final three weeks and wins the big prize, the pollsters might like the idea of seeing what he can do against LSU, assuming the Tigers make it in.
predicted wins: at UCLA, Oregon State
predicted losses: at Arizona
predicted record: 10-2
predicted bowl: Fiesta
toughest test: at Arizona

3. Kansas Score: 0.9094 Last Week: 4
The general sense is that if Kansas wins out, it's in the national title game. It'll be the only unbeaten team from a BCS conference, and it'll have beaten Oklahoma and Missouri to get to 13-0. Two of the six computers already have the Jayhawks number one, and more will follow suit over the coming weeks if the wins keep on coming. However, things could quickly change with a loss to Missouri, going from the brink of the Big 12 title, and within range of the national championship, to out of the BCS entirely with the Big 12 title combatants likely to get the two spots. Remember, no conference can get more than two teams in.
predicted wins: Iowa State
predicted losses: Missouri
predicted record: 11-1
predicted bowl: Cotton Bowl
toughest test: Missouri

4. Oklahoma Score: 0.8540 Last Week: 5
Still well out of range of a top two spot, OU needs to make a big splash over the final few weeks, and that includes a dominant performance in the Big 12 title game. At worst, if the Sooners win out they'll go to their second straight Fiesta Bowl, and even if they lose the Big 12 title game, if they win their final two regular season games they'll likely do no worse than get an at-large BCS bid.
predicted wins: Oklahoma State, at Texas Tech, Big 12 Championship
predicted losses: None
predicted record: 12-1
predicted bowl: BCS Championship
toughest test: Big 12 Championship

5. Missouri Score: 0.8096 Last Week: 6
There's still a wait-and-see attitude with the Tigers. Likely too far out of range to be in the national title discussion, even if they beat Kansas and Oklahoma, they'll need to be impressive down the stretch. However, there will be a groundswell of support for them if they avenge the loss to the Sooners, which came at OU, and if they beat Kansas with ease. The computers aren't impressed yet, even with a win over Illinois being taken into account. That'll all change with a Big 12 title.
predicted wins: at Kansas State, Kansas
predicted losses: Big 12 Championship
predicted record: 11-2
predicted bowl: Fiesta Bowl
toughest test: Kansas (if not Big 12 Championship)

6. West Virginia Score: 0.7863 Last Week: 7
The Ohio State loss was step on, and now the Mountaineers need a slew of other big things to happen to get close to the two spot. LSU and Oregon losses might do it, since it's almost certain that two Big 12 teams wouldn't play each other for the national title. Here's the dream scenario, and it's not all that far-fetched. LSU loses in the SEC title game, Oregon loses at Arizona, Oklahoma loses to Texas Tech but wins the Big 12 championship. If that happens, and West Virginia wins out, it's in.
predicted wins: at Cincinnati, Connecticut, Pitt
predicted losses: None
predicted record: 11-1
predicted bowl: Sugar Bowl
toughest test: at Cincinnati

7. Ohio State Score: 0.7744 Last Week: 1
The Buckeyes can talk all they want about the Rose Bowl being important, but the loss to Illinois was crippling. for a team that had everything set up perfectly to play in the national championship. While the BCS title hopes are gone, they can still snag an at-large bid even if they lose to Michigan. Outside of a 75-0 loss to Michigan, Jim Tressel will be in his fifth BCS game in six years..
predicted wins: None
predicted losses: at Michigan
predicted record: 10-2
predicted bowl: Orange
toughest test: at Michigan

8. Arizona State Score: 0.7500 Last Week: 9
ASU has a BCS bid in its grasp. Beat USC, beat Arizona, and it's in one of the big money games. If Dennis Erickson's crew wins out, and Oregon slips, then it's in the Rose Bowl. If not, it's likely to be Fiesta Bowl bound against the Big 12 champion. If the Sun Devils somehow blowout USC, and then beat Arizona, it'll be interesting to see how the pollsters view them if a slew of upsets happen up top.
predicted wins: USC, Arizona
predicted losses: None
predicted record: 11-1
predicted bowl: Rose Bowl
toughest test: USC

9. Georgia Score: 0.6724 Last Week: 10
Georgia is in a strange spot. Not in control of its own SEC destiny, it needs to beat Kentucky and hope for Tennessee to slip up to have a shot at playing LSU. Even so, by winning out, it might have a chance at an at-large BCS bid as long as the Vols, assuming they're in the SEC title game, don't beat the Tigers. The BCS will want to have two SEC teams, but if the Boise State - Hawaii winner gets in, it'll be hard for the Dawgs to knock out a one-loss Arizona State, a second Big 12 team, or Ohio State, if it loses to Michigan.
predicted wins: Kentucky, at Georgia Tech
predicted losses: SEC Championship
predicted record: 11-2
predicted bowl: Sugar Bowl (if not SEC Championship)
toughest test: at Georgia Tech

10. Virginia Tech Score: 0.6133 Last Week: 11
The Hokies aren't necessarily in range for an at-large spot, needing to win the ACC title game to get one of the big money games. Even so, the dominant fourth quarter win over Florida State has earned enough goodwill for a top ten slot. But again with two losses already, it's ACC title or bust.
predicted wins: Miami, at Virginia, ACC Championship
predicted losses: None
predicted record: 11-2
predicted bowl: Orange Bowl
toughest test: at Virginia (if not the ACC Championship)

In Range
11. USC (last week: 17th)
12. Florida (last week: 15th)
13. Texas (last week: 14th)
14. Virginia (last week: 19th)
15. Clemson (last week: 21st)
16. Hawaii (last week: 16th)
17. Boston College (last week: 8th)
18. Boise State (last week: 20th)
19. Illinois (last week: 31st)
20. Tennessee (last week: 24th)

[hink4769]

Why is a 3 loss Florida team ranked so high????
Why do I think there are 5 to 6 teams in the Big 12 that can beat most of the Teams listed in the "BCS TOP 15"?:pop:

KU, MU, OU, and Texas can beat anybody in the top-15, every other team stinks.

[BIG_IKE]

The Top 4 Big 12 teams are a combined 36-4

All 4 of the losses were in Conference, and 2 were OU beating two other top 4 teams. I still think Texas Tech is dangerous enough to play with anyone in the country if they catch them slipping.