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85Sooner
11/9/2007, 11:35 AM
Okay folks, many people have been asking for TVs that are 1080p.

1080p does NOT, I repeat NOT mean the resolution!!!!!!!!

It DOES mean that the television will process and display a 1080p signal.

Regardless of the resolution (1920x1080 or 1366x768 ) the TV Must process a 1080p signal to be defined as a 1080p set.

Many have argued with me for a couple of years about this and not the crows are coming home to roost.

See details if you have bought one of the sets mentioned below regarding the class action lawsuits starting to be filed.

Beginning in 2005
Display manufacturers such as Hitachi, Panasonic, LG, NEC and RCA began selling -- and touting -- new "1080p" High-Definition TVs. According to their manufacturers, these new LCD, DLP and plasma sets -- with a horizontal resolution of 1920 dots across by 1080 vertical lines (i.e. 1920x1080 pixels) -- produced the smoothest, clearest picture possible.


The HDTV manufacturers never bothered to explain -- is that, if you try to plug a 1080p output to the 1080i input of a 1080p display, you will get no image. These "1080p" HDTVs are unable to accept the 1080p signals from any device, including Sony's PS3, Blu-Ray players and HD-DVDs.

Common 1080p Television Manufacturers:

Hitachi
Panasonic
LG
NEC
RCA
March 9, 2007
All 1080p displays can only display images progressively (each resolution line has to be displayed at the same time) and because of this they all have to deinterlace interlaced transmissions before displaying. The deinterlacing can be done correctly (by weaving the 1080 lines together) or incorrectly by taking 540 of the lines and just doubling them. The technology for the latter method (called bobing) is cheaper but you are also throwing away half of the resolution. The use of bobing for interlacing on those 1080p displays which only have 1080i inputs may amount to false advertising.

HDTVs Not What They Seem
High Definition Televisions (HDTVs) have become a popular new purchase; however, some people do not realize that some of the 1080p HDTVs have a defect because they are not compatible with all 1080p devices.

If you purchased a "1080p" HDTV in 2005 or 2006, and would like to speak to an attorney about your experience please take a moment ot fill out this form to send your complaint.

Boarder
11/9/2007, 11:39 AM
DUDE! I'M JUST LOOKING!

OUDoc
11/9/2007, 11:44 AM
DUDE! I'M JUST LOOKING!
Take your time, he doesn't mind. ;)

OUDoc
11/9/2007, 11:47 AM
Okay, you're saying with a "1080p", the 1080 doesn't refer to resolution? (I seem to have missed something, I'm really not meaning to rehash an old argument, if that's how it seems.) Or are you only referring to progressive vs interlaced?

mdklatt
11/9/2007, 11:54 AM
So a 1080p display is not really a 1080p display? :confused:

I think my TV is 1080i. Does that mean I won't be able to use it with HD-DVD? :mad:

85Sooner
11/9/2007, 12:31 PM
Okay, you're saying with a "1080p", the 1080 doesn't refer to resolution? (I seem to have missed something, I'm really not meaning to rehash an old argument, if that's how it seems.) Or are you only referring to progressive vs interlaced?

Displays should be referred to as the number of pixels present on the screen.

ie: 1024x768 1366x768 1920x1080 It is niether interlaced or progressive.

But the issue has been confused. Notice that there are no displays with 720 as a function of the resolution. for some reason alot of folks just started referring to 1366x768 televisions as 720p which is a mistake and is gonna cost plenty to these companies

Those numbers represent resolution on the panel. nothing more nothing less.

Scalers (the part in the tv which processes video) can process several different signals . The old tv at grandmas house processes 525i NTSC. The newer tvs have been gradually increasing their processing capabilities ie 1080i, 720p, and now 1080p.


BTW the scalers are the 'spensive part of the televisions.

Several folks have bought tvs advertised as 1920x1080 resolutions thinking that they are 1080p sets only to find when the hook up a 1080p signal, the screen goes blank.


For computer geeks out there. THe resolution on the monitor is a totally separate issue from the video card in the computer. Getting more pixels on your screen is not going to enhance your video processing capabilities.

Does that make better sense?

Frozen Sooner
11/9/2007, 12:49 PM
So a 1080p display is not really a 1080p display? :confused:

I think my TV is 1080i. Does that mean I won't be able to use it with HD-DVD? :mad:

You will. Just make sure that if you buy an HD DVD player capable of 1080p that you have the output set to 1080i.

Same with Blu-Ray.

One of the advantages of an HDMI connection is that your TV can tell the player what kind of signal it can accept.