What's with Mizzou, are they any good???

[Soonerus]

hard for me tell, like someone mentioned earlier 42 points at Nebraska is not that big of deal this year, Ball State scored 41 in Lincoln this year...

[SOONERnTx]

well they haven't lost so they at least have to be good; i dont think the are great, that will be determined this weekend!

[Zoo Keeper]

Good question...I think this week will be the answer. I thought Nebraska would be a good test, but even though we did everything right, I'm starting to think Nebraska is just that bad. Playing you guys will be the real measuring stick. I still think we have made strides, but are we really a #11 team???? Not sure about that. Either way, it will be a fun game to watch.

[Soonerus]

well they haven't lost so they at least have to be good; i dont think the are great, that will be determined this weekend!

Lots of average teams over the years have started 5 or 6 and oh and ended up not being that good....

[MichiganSooner]

From the St Louis Post Dispatch. Be sure to read the last sentence.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/mizzou/story/AF744DD7F0A3EC2A8625736E001AEC46?OpenDocument

Everything is clicking for Mizzou
By Graham Watson
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
10/08/2007

Mizzou's dominating effort in the thrashing of ranked Nebraska is reflected in polls and has fans abuzz.
(Chris Lee/P-D)

COLUMBIA, Mo. — Just over 12 hours after Missouri's 41-6 conquest of Nebraska, fans were still milling around downtown Columbia in a euphoric state.

The Tigers' first win against a ranked opponent since 2003 jump-started talk of a Heisman Trophy for quarterback Chase Daniel and a BCS bowl for Missouri (5-0, 1-0 Big 12).

It also spurred talk that perhaps Missouri's defense isn't as bad as most people thought.

The Tigers, who came into the game ranked No. 93 nationally in total defense, held the 'Huskers to 297 yards of total offense, Nebraska's worst output of the season. They also kept the 'Huskers out of the end zone for the first time since 1961.

"We set the tone from the beginning, pregame and everything, it was all just clicking," linebacker Sean Weatherspoon said.

While Missouri set the tone for the game from the opening kick, defensive tackle Lorenzo Williams set the tone for the Tigers in the team hotel on Friday night. After they finished watching their scouting film, Williams, a senior captain, addressed the team with as much emotion

as he's shown all season. Williams said he was so emotional that tears were streaming down his face as he broke the marker board the team draws its plays on and nearly punched a hole in the wall.

"We know what we've got and we know what we can do and we've kinda been disappointed, even though we were 4-0, we were disappointed in our performance a little bit, especially defensively," Williams said. "We felt like we were better than what we had shown in the first four games. We practiced on everything. We had the whole game plan down by Thursday. … I don't really get like that very often, but this is my last go-round so I can't hold anything back."

No one held anything back on the field. The Tigers had two sacks of Nebraska quarterback Sam Keller and forced him into his eighth interception of the season. The effort moved Missouri to No. 79 nationally in total defense.

Meanwhile, the Missouri offense had its way with the hapless 'Huskers defense, accounting for 606 total yards — the most against a conference opponent since 1984 — and scored on all six of its red zone chances. Daniel's career-high 401 passing yards and 473 yards of total offense moved him to third in the country in total offense with 1,900 yards.

The dominance in what coach Gary Pinkel called as "complete a game as we've played in a long time" earned the Tigers the No. 11 ranking in both The Associated Press and coaches polls that were released Sunday. It also sets up a pivotal Big 12 matchup against No. 6 Oklahoma in Norman. The game will be attended by ESPN's "Gameday" crew.

Several players said their preparation for the Sooners (5-1, 1-1) would begin Sunday morning because they know the challenge is more difficult this Saturday. The Sooners are ranked 11th nationally in both total offense and total defense, and dominated the one pure spread offense — Tulsa — they saw this season. Oklahoma's only loss this season came against Colorado, which limited the Sooners to 230 yards of total offense.

The starting running backs of both teams — Missouri's Tony Temple and Oklahoma's Allen Patrick — left their respective games this weekend with injuries. Both are questionable for Saturday.

"We talked about in the beginning of the year that if you want to make a move you got to win some big games and beat some of the best teams in your division and in the league," Pinkel said. "There are a lot of great football teams in the North and in the South (divisions). This is a test, we passed this. The good news is we got a great win, the bad news is we've got to wake up and start preparing for Oklahoma."

[SoonerKnight]

The starting running backs of both teams — Missouri's Tony Temple and Oklahoma's Allen Patrick — left their respective games this weekend with injuries. Both are questionable for Saturday.

Didn't AP leave the game because of cramps? Didn't The MO guy leave because he sprained his ankle? Why would AP be questionable?

[Soonerus]

Mizzou is the ultimate schizo team, I look for them to flop big time in Norman keeping with their usual character and tradition...

[jeepdad]

Mizzou is the ultimate schizo team, I look for them to flop big time in Norman keeping with their usual character and tradition...


Care if I save this quote so I can repost it, say, Saturday Night?

[Soonerus]

Care if I save this quote so I can repost it, say, Saturday Night?

Please do....

[meoveryouxinfinity]

Care if I save this quote so I can repost it, say, Saturday Night?
Sorry to sound chiche, but history does seem to repeat itself. Best of luck to Mizzou though.

[hOlden caUlfield...]

the first game i went to in norman was in '94. we beat mizzou. i was 7. i know i'm not "a man" being as i'm not 40 and all. hopefully i can be a part of this again!

[Soonerus]

the first game i went to in norman was in '94. we beat mizzou. i was 7. i know i'm not "a man" being as i'm not 40 and all. hopefully i can be a part of this again!

You can be a "man" before forty...

[hOlden caUlfield...]

hey man. take it up with gundy. not me.

[Soonerus]

We have guys/gals fighting in Iraq who are fully developed men and women at 18,19,20....screw Gundy he's an idiot...

[hOlden caUlfield...]

yea i know bro. i understand that and was totally joking. i consider myself a man. i consider gundy a woman. i was just running that whole thing into the ground even more. :pop:

[cvsooner]

In 1975, of course, we had Little Joe and the remarkable end of the game run and then the two-point conversion to salvage a tough win at Columbia. A lot of folks had already started to leave the stadium, including my brother-in-law, who decided at the last sec to stand as he was leaving just to see how the next play ended up.

In '76, they came to Norman. It was bitterly cold, one of the coldest games I've ever been too. I remember it sleeting before and even during the game. And we had to have that game. HAD to have it. We had tied Texas and lost that year to OSEwe in NORMAN and that pretty much meant the season was ruined. We came from behind to win and it was a glorious day...even though my feet were so numb at the end of the game I could barely walk out of the stadium.

Mizzou has had more unrealized potential than just about anybody. I hope this isn't the year they figure out how to play well.

[goingoneight]

You can be a "man" before forty...

Yes... but mid-20's guys are considered "just kids." :D

[ruf/nekdad]

yea i know bro. i understand that and was totally joking. i consider myself a man. i consider gundy a woman. i was just running that whole thing into the ground even more. :pop:

Don't take it personal holden. Its soonerus. I'm a noob here too, but if you pay attention for a while you'll find he's like the curmudgeon grandfather type that is not entirely satisfied with anything you say or do.:D

[CtheB]

Mizzou has had more unrealized potential than just about anybody. I hope this isn't the year they figure out how to play well.

Great comment. Spek.

[aurorasooner]

How good has Missouri really been on the road. They beat Illinois at a neutral site, St. Louis, and they did put up 38 points on Ole Miss in Oxford and Ed Orgeron (sp-?) is a good defensive specialist, but I really don't know if Ole Miss is any good this year. (Ole Miss is 2-4). Playing on the road appears to be a whole different animal this year than playing in front of the home crowd. I'm really glad this one is Norman and not away because playing Missouri at home has historically been a tough game for us. The Illini had more total offense than Missouri and put up 435 yards on the Missouri D. Ole Miss put up 534 yards on the the Missouri D and had over 300 yards passing on the Missouri D. JMHO, but I think Callahan has lost this Nebraska team (We'll see Saturday when they play Okie State), so I'm not sure anyone in the Big 12 wouldn't put up big yards at home on that pitiful Nebraska D. It was a big win for Missouri to beat Nebraska, but I'm not sure it's a quality win. Certainly holding Nebraska to only 6 points was a quality effort by the Missouri D, though. Again it appears that playing on the road is a whole different gig this year.

[GoTigers]

If Mizzou plays as good as we did against Nebraska, we will win.

[KantoSooner]

that's why we play the game. Somebody's always ready to step into the arena.


You're next.

[OklaPony]

If Mizzou plays as good as we did against Nebraska, we will win.
Whoa there, GT! We'd have to play as bad as Nebs for that to happen. Do you really think that you'll run through our D the way you did against the shuckers? Somebody go wake this Tigger up, he must be dreaming!

[BillyBall]

If Mizzou plays as good as we did against Nebraska, we will win.

If Mizzou holds us to under 200 yards rushing I would be shocked... And if we gain over 200 yards rushing I don't see us losing.

Multi-dimensional teams that can control clock kill us, not pass happy teams that have injured running backs.

[aurorasooner]

If Mizzou plays as good as we did against Nebraska, we will win. So ""IF Mizzou plays as good on the road against a top 10 team as they did at home vs a hated rival with a defense that everyone who's played them has abused, then Mizzou will win. I'll take those ""ifs. OU hangs over half-a-hundred on Mizzou at home and wins 56 to 35. Auston English will not only find a new ear-hole to abuse on Saturday, he will cause 2 QB fumbles from the blind side, and Reggie Smith takes one of those 2 to the house.

[frankensooner]

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[Blitzkrieg]

I live in Mo, and watch MU when it doesn't directly conflict with OU. They will be the best visting offense to set foot on owen field since Stoops came to Norman. That is no joke. Don't think this is Mike Leach's freakshow offense, MU has a set of WRs that Leach could only dream about. Chase Daniel would be the starter at OU or UT had either team recruited him harder. He is small, but plays big time and can tuck the ball and run for first downs, and you know how that has plagued OU in the past. The only way to keep them off the scoreboard is to run clock and posses the ball. Punt them deep and win the field possession battle.

Defensively, we should be fine, and I like our chance to really have balance on them. If we have no turnovers, run the ball, strike deep off of play action, we win.

[StoopTroup]

We'll put a little English on CD.

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

I live in Mo, and watch MU when it doesn't directly conflict with OU. They will be the best visting offense to set foot on owen field since Stoops came to Norman. That is no joke. Don't think this is Mike Leach's freakshow offense, MU has a set of WRs that Leach could only dream about. Chase Daniel would be the starter at OU or UT had either team recruited him harder. He is small, but plays big time and can tuck the ball and run for first downs, and you know how that has plagued OU in the past. The only way to keep them off the scoreboard is to run clock and posses the ball. Punt them deep and win the field possession battle.

Defensively, we should be fine, and I like our chance to really have balance on them. If we have no turnovers, run the ball, strike deep off of play action, we win.


Also live in Mo. I generally agree though I might disagree a little. It is probably the best passing offense to come to Norman since Stoops has been there. Nebraska in 2000 probably had the best offense overall because they could control clock and run over most teams....except us that year of course. Compared to MU, Texas Tech looks like a running team.

MU has probably the best combo on TEs in the country, though they are used more like WR. The actual WR corps is good but not phenominal Franklin, Maclin and Saunders. Maclin was once an OU commit. They are an offense like TT in one regard. They don't line up and out execute you. They try to trick you. They run a bunch of gimmic formations and try to hit you with the big play. They do not do sustained drives. They have no running game from their RBs. Daniel is a pretty good scrambler and they run some WR reverses.

They will have absolute fits trying to deal with crowd noise. I expect several false starts and probably a couple flags for illegal formations. I can see them hitting us with a few big plays but they will not control the clock much. I also see Daniel taking a bunch of punishment like last year. Meanwhile their defense will wilt after being on the field for 35-40 minutes.

MU is good enough to win if we make a lot of mistakes and don't get after them. I think we will and think we score at least in the 40's, maybe the 50's.

[adoniijahsooner]

I live in Mo, and watch MU when it doesn't directly conflict with OU. They will be the best visting offense to set foot on owen field since Stoops came to Norman. That is no joke. Don't think this is Mike Leach's freakshow offense, MU has a set of WRs that Leach could only dream about. Chase Daniel would be the starter at OU or UT had either team recruited him harder. He is small, but plays big time and can tuck the ball and run for first downs, and you know how that has plagued OU in the past. The only way to keep them off the scoreboard is to run clock and posses the ball. Punt them deep and win the field possession battle.

Defensively, we should be fine, and I like our chance to really have balance on them. If we have no turnovers, run the ball, strike deep off of play action, we win.

Its weird reading post like this, because it seems that everyone is forgetting what happened in columbia last year with a far worse Oklahoma team. It is good to have confidence, but look through the annals of history, and realize that this Mizzouri team scored alot last year and Oklahoma shut them down in Mizzou. Do you honestly think that a very balanced team like ou is going to fold against your defense just because you shut down Nebraska. They also struggled on offense against wake forest. Think!

[MiccoMacey]

My summarization of our two teams:

On offense, we will use all our 11 people to score on their defense. Edge: Oklahoma.

On defense, we will use our 11 people to stop their offense. Edge: Oklahoma

On Special Teams, our players will try to make bigger plays than their players. Edge: Oklahoma.

The way I see it now, it should be a good game but my synopsis is that we will win. Too many edges.

[Stoop Dawg]

Its weird reading post like this, because it seems that everyone is forgetting what happened in columbia last year with a far worse Oklahoma team. It is good to have confidence, but look through the annals of history, and realize that this Mizzouri team scored alot last year and Oklahoma shut them down in Mizzou. Do you honestly think that a very balanced team like ou is going to fold against your defense just because you shut down Nebraska. They also struggled on offense against wake forest. Think!

Blitz is a Sooner.

And good QBs always give us trouble.

I'm not betting the house on a win. Our defense has looked less than superb lately.

[Sooner1979]

This is not a post that says that History always repeats itself, but here are the stats anyway....

OU has lost once in the last 18 games against Mizzou...Pinkel has yet to outcoach Stoops...We will see who is legit on Saturday...By the way, OU is undefeated at home against Mizzou in that same time frame...Our record against Missouri is very similar for the years beyond 1984....

2006 - OU Win (Pinkel Loss)
2003 - OU Win (Pinkel Loss)
2002 - OU Win (Pinkel Loss)
1999 - OU Win (Pinkel Loss)
1998 - Mizzou Won (John Blake behind the helm)
1984-1995 - OU Won

It will be a good game, but our defense should be able to put Missouri into a 1Dimesional Offense and that all in itself will give our Offense more time on the field and our Defense less time on the field...

We will see, I am actually excited about this game...

[jeepdad]

FYI,

Mizzou's rushing offense ranks #24 nationally with just at 200 yards per game, not far behind #15 Oklahoma with 216 yards per game. I understand the comparisons to Texas Tech, but the Red Raiders rank #113 out of 119 teams in rushing offense.

When a team has, statistically, the fifth best passing offense and 24th best rushing offense in the nation, I'm not sure you can dismiss them as one-dimensional.

An yeah, I'm a Mizzou fan!

[cvsooner]

Intangibles to consider for this game:

It's in Norman, not Columbia. That's probably worth seven points right there.

Mizzou hasn't had this kind of attention in a LONG time. How will they hold up to the scrutiny? Do they play like they can or do they falter with all the attention? Especially when they had to get as emotionally high last week as they apparently did...can they do it again?

OU has tasted a loss and didn't like it. Missouri has come close to getting beaten, but hasn't, yet. (Though Illinois came REALLY close in the final minutes.)

Weather...wet field could be a big difference.

OU's defensive adjustments. Unfortunately, OU's tendency in recent years to give up the big play. Especially on gadget plays. I think that's what sparked the fake field goal against Nebraska...just 'cause they could. And to give OU something else to think about.

I still like our chances in this, but it could be a real nailbiter. Texas game was probably the best thing that could have happened to us...tough, come from behind game that took four quarters in a semi-hostile environment.

And I'm coming 1,500 miles to see it, so we sure as heck better not lose.

[Octavian]

Missouri is 1 for 19 (http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/opp-opp.pl?start=1961&end=2006&team1=Oklahoma&team2=Missouri) in Norman since 1960.


In Norman, Bob Stoops is 50-2.



That doesn't guarantee a win of course....but ya gotta like those numbers if you're a Sooner fan.

[TUSooner]

Brad Edwards, a guy who studies the BCS computer rankings, reports:

The human voters like Oklahoma, but the computer ratings say Missouri is the best team in the Big 12. The Tigers are ranked in the top five of four computers, which boosts them to sixth in the BCS. The Sooners, in contrast, have a best computer ranking of 18th and don't even appear in the top 25 of some ratings. Therefore, OU is all the way down at No. 12 in the mock standings. Please note, before you call the guy a tool, that he is only reporting what the BCS 'puters are saying; he ain't giving his opinion.

[StoopTroup]

Playing with a sprained temple has got to hurt them.

[MextheBulldog]

Last three games with Stoops as head coach:
2006/10/28 Oklahoma 26 - Missouri 10
2003/10/18 Oklahoma 34 - Missouri 13
2002/10/05 Oklahoma 31 - Missouri 24

Prediction: Mizzou's spread offense gives OU fits for a half. They hang around until the OU run game wears 'em down. I think this one is closer than expected, and the saxet hangover once again plays a role....OU 35-24

[ruf/nekdad]

Playing with a sprained temple has got to hurt them.
I get into the myers dark rum sometimes and get a sprained temple.

[DocNice]

Intangibles to consider for this game:

It's in Norman, not Columbia. That's probably worth seven points right there.

Mizzou hasn't had this kind of attention in a LONG time. How will they hold up to the scrutiny? Do they play like they can or do they falter with all the attention? Especially when they had to get as emotionally high last week as they apparently did...can they do it again?

OU has tasted a loss and didn't like it. Missouri has come close to getting beaten, but hasn't, yet. (Though Illinois came REALLY close in the final minutes.)

Weather...wet field could be a big difference.

OU's defensive adjustments. Unfortunately, OU's tendency in recent years to give up the big play. Especially on gadget plays. I think that's what sparked the fake field goal against Nebraska...just 'cause they could. And to give OU something else to think about.



Mizzou fan here. All quite valid points. The home field advantage won't bother us as much as some teams because we don't use a lot of huddles or snap counts. But it will affect us emotionally. The team was amped for Nebraska and really fed off the amazing crowd. We don't have that for NU, and that could be a big difference maker, especially for our defense which plays much better when worked up a little.

The OU loss to CU was a fluke. That said, it brought you down to earth a little. Teams know they can beat you. And while Mizzou averted a loss to a pretty good Illinois team, we still won, and honestly the game was not that close. Yes, they came back at the end, but we were up by like 4 scores and probably let up a bit. The point being that Mizzou is extremely confident right now, and is playing like they expect to win, even at OU.

Inclement weather almost always favors the offense because they know where they want to cut and the defense has to react, and it usually favors a running team over a passing team.

Mizzou actually isn't really a big-play team this year. They are more capable of big plays this year than last year, but they do a pretty good job of chipping away at zone defenses. Generally, any given pass is good for 8 yards and then whatever the receiver gets after that, which has been pretty good so far, but OU may challenge us there.

IMHO, this comes down to whether OU can pressure Daniel with only 4 down linemen, and drop the rest into coverage. If so, then Mizzou probably scores slightly more than it did last year. If not, Mizzou should score considerably more than any other team has on the Sooners so far this year. Mizzou is easily the best offense the Sooners have faced yet.

[KC//CRIMSON]

They beat Illinois 40-34 -- 56th in Total Defense
They beat Ole Miss 38-24 -- 101st in Total Defense, gained 500 yards against Mizz.
They beat W Michigan 52-24 -- 103rd in Total Defense
They beat Illinoise State 38-17 -- 108th in Total Defense...in 1-AA!!!
They beat Nebraska 41-6 --96th in Total Defense. Ball State scored 40 on Neb.

These are some pretty telling stats posted by Colleyville. FWIW - Stoops defenses in the past have eaten the spread offenses alive. Ask Mike Leach.

[Soonerus]

consensus: Mizzou sucks...to be exposed on Saturday...

[bluedogok]

In '76, they came to Norman. It was bitterly cold, one of the coldest games I've ever been too. I remember it sleeting before and even during the game. And we had to have that game. HAD to have it. We had tied Texas and lost that year to OSEwe in NORMAN and that pretty much meant the season was ruined. We came from behind to win and it was a glorious day...even though my feet were so numb at the end of the game I could barely walk out of the stadium.
That was one of the coldest games that I have been to as well....just miserable.

[Salt City Sooner]

Last three games with Stoops as head coach:
2006/10/28 Oklahoma 26 - Missouri 10
2003/10/18 Oklahoma 34 - Missouri 13
2002/10/05 Oklahoma 31 - Missouri 24

Prediction: Mizzou's spread offense gives OU fits for a half. They hang around until the OU run game wears 'em down. I think this one is closer than expected, and the saxet hangover once again plays a role....OU 35-24
I hope so, because under Stoops, the UT hangover has been a myth. Since he arrived, OU is 8-0 the week after Texas, (with wins over 4 ranked teams). The average score has been 37-12.

'99- OU 51 #10 A&M 6
'00- OU 41 @ #2 KSU 31
'01- OU 38 @ KU 10
'02- OU 49 #9 ISU 3
'03- OU 34 #24 MU 13
'04- OU 31 @ KSU 21
'05- OU 19 KU 3 (@ Arrowhead)
'06- OU 34 ISU 9

[cvsooner]

That was one of the coldest games that I have been to as well....just miserable.

The second best memory I have of that day, other than the win, was normally the seat next to me had some guy in it. He was kind of a jerk, but tolerable.

For whatever reason, that Saturday, there was this absoLOOTly gorgeous babe in that seat, and she didn't know much about football. I wasn't sure why she was there, but there I was, a randy 20 year old with this knockout brunette. It made for a much better day than the weather allowed.

Anyway, when we scored the go-ahead points late--in one of the closest games I ever saw in Owen Field--the place was rockin' and jumpin' up and down and we hugged each other....sheer bliss. Then, after the game, she tells me she's married. :(

Ah, well...still a good memory.:)

[DocNice]

They beat Illinois 40-34 -- 56th in Total Defense
They beat Ole Miss 38-24 -- 101st in Total Defense, gained 500 yards against Mizz.
They beat W Michigan 52-24 -- 103rd in Total Defense
They beat Illinoise State 38-17 -- 108th in Total Defense...in 1-AA!!!
They beat Nebraska 41-6 --96th in Total Defense. Ball State scored 40 on Neb.

These are some pretty telling stats posted by Colleyville. FWIW - Stoops defenses in the past have eaten the spread offenses alive. Ask Mike Leach.

Those are all valid criticisms. The defenses we have played have not all been top defenses like we will face at OU, and this will be our chance to show that we can replicate the results against a top defense. That said, we have not just beaten the competition, we have demolished them. Illinois (which has a pretty good defense, especially given their tough schedule) is the only one that remotely came close to slowing our offense down, and we still scored and moved the ball on them, and it would seem we've gotten better since then.

Lastly, I would just say that a lot of the same arguments were made by our previous opponents about how history was not on our side or our schedule was weak. Only the game on the field will say, but I do think Missouri is an opponent to be taken seriously.

[cvsooner]

Without a doubt, I think we take Mizzou in 2007 very seriously. We have always taken your school seriously.

While i'm waxing nostalgic on that '76 game, we were ranked 14th after having back to back losses (gasp!) to OSEwe in Norman and to Colorado in Boulder.

Then #11 Mizzou came to town. We were outgained yardage wise 504 to 439, and we didn't attempt a single pass. All 439 yards came on the ground. Wow.

We had a 27-10 lead going into the 4th quarter and Missouri rallied to score ten points. A late turnover saved us. Mizzou had four fumbles and one interception, which really was the difference. (We had three fumbles.)

Then over Thanksgiving weekend, we had the ol' hook and lateral against Nebraska in an unbelievable come-from-behind-win, and wound up going to the Fiesta Bowl, where we trounced Wyoming.

[Blitzkrieg]

Funny, I posted on here that CU was better defense than they were given credit prior to the game and all I heard was "bad matchup" for CU, and "no chance". The north is making great strides and might win the series this year. That's great for the old big 8.

I am a lifelong sooner fan and I tell you that MU can beat OU saturday. Can doesn't mean they will, but they can win this game. Make no mistake, it will take a great game by our defense to keep us out of an early hole. We need to play with the lead and score every chance we get. Mu has scored on their first drive in 10 of their last 13 games or some such crazy number.

If you remember last year, their TE Coffman broke wide open by 15 yards and Daniel hit him with a perfect strike, and he dropped it. Had they taken that lead at home, that game could have easily taken a much different turn. Our defense is not a clear cut advantage over their offense. Luckily, our offense has a huge advanatge over their defense.

[Crucifax Autumn]

I think they are great, they are talented, they are undefeated, they are driven, they are likely to be in the running for the north, and they ARE GOING TO LOSE SATURDAY!

And after that, they'll win the rest...or lose to Colorado. Don't really care which as long as we get the highest ranked North team in the championship.

[hOlden caUlfield...]

That said, we have not just beaten the competition, we have demolished them.

we've done our fair share of demolishing sh*tty and good defenses this year. i'm nervous about this game, but we SHOULD win. there is no reason why we shouldn't. if we lose, then it was meant to be and it will tell us what kind of team we really are. buuuut.....let's kill them anyway!

[Stoop Dawg]

Those are all valid criticisms. The defenses we have played have not all been top defenses like we will face at OU, and this will be our chance to show that we can replicate the results against a top defense. That said, we have not just beaten the competition, we have demolished them. Illinois (which has a pretty good defense, especially given their tough schedule) is the only one that remotely came close to slowing our offense down, and we still scored and moved the ball on them, and it would seem we've gotten better since then.

You sound like a Sooner fan the week before the CU game.


Only the game on the field will say, but I do think Missouri is an opponent to be taken seriously.

No doubt.

[adoniijahsooner]

I dont understand why all the talk surrounds Mizzou offense against our defense. if our offense gets rolling this game is over quickly; because I dont think that there defense is legit. We need to look at the other matchups, its a reason why Mizzou, Tech, Hawaii and other offense focused teams dont win big games or championships, because they dont balanced the team out, and try to win all facets of the game. Nebraska's offense was a piece of crap saturday, and it had nothing to do with the Mizzou defense; they got down by 14 points and forgot left their gameplan at the door. Oklahoma probably loves the fact that everyone is talking about mizzou and how wonderful their offense is, because it takes the pressure off of them. Truly, I was concerned about Colorado because i watched them play three times prior to us and i was impressed with their defense, so mizzou better bring a little more than a explosive offense when they arrive to norman.

[Miko]

Brad Edwards, a guy who studies the BCS computer rankings, reports:
Please note, before you call the guy a tool, that he is only reporting what the BCS 'puters are saying; he ain't giving his opinion.


TOOL

















computers :D

[stoopified]

Overrated

[GoTigers]

I dont understand why all the talk surrounds Mizzou offense against our defense. if our offense gets rolling this game is over quickly; because I dont think that there defense is legit. We need to look at the other matchups, its a reason why Mizzou, Tech, Hawaii and other offense focused teams dont win big games or championships, because they dont balanced the team out, and try to win all facets of the game. Nebraska's offense was a piece of crap saturday, and it had nothing to do with the Mizzou defense; they got down by 14 points and forgot left their gameplan at the door. Oklahoma probably loves the fact that everyone is talking about mizzou and how wonderful their offense is, because it takes the pressure off of them. Truly, I was concerned about Colorado because i watched them play three times prior to us and i was impressed with their defense, so mizzou better bring a little more than a explosive offense when they arrive to norman.

You're right, your offense is better than our defense. But the defense isn't that bad. We've taken it against the run pretty hard because we don't have very many big guys on the offensive side of the ball. We're starting to compensate for that, and we've done pretty good against the run this year. If our defense plays well, we have a shot. That said, I'm not feeling a Tiger win this week.

[Lott's Bandana]

[QUOTE=Blitzkrieg]
*Don't think this is Mike Leach's freakshow offense, MU has a set of WRs that Leach could only dream about.

**Punt them deep and win the field possession battle.

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* You mean like Crabtree? The Pirate only needs one.

** Mizz punting ranked 115 of 119. What battle?







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