Jello Biafra
10/3/2007, 10:45 PM
i have been in and out of this place for the last couple of weeks but because the major whoren players haven't been around much, i haven't bothered jumping in......
however, its wedensday evening and there is precious little time and quite frankly i haven't seen much sheite talking......time to crank up the heat.....
TEXAS FANS, suck it......
http://xenon.stanford.edu/~trj/comparing_ou_ut.html
1. Coaching
OU is coached by Bob Stoops. UT is coached by Mack Brown. Stoops has received 8 Coach of the Year honors by 7 organizations, Brown has received 1. Stoops has received AFCA, FWAA, HomeDepot, BearBryant, WalterCamp (twice), BobbyDodd, and GeorgeMunger national coach of the year honors. Brown has received BearBryant coach of year honors. [through Feb-2007]
Stoops has the third highest winning percentage among active Division 1A coaches with 5 or more years. Brown is not in the top 20 [through Feb-2007].
Through Feb-2006, Stoops' winning percentage is .824 (86-19), Brown's is .809 at UT (93-22) and .650 overall (179-96-1). [through Feb-2007]
Against teams that finish in the AP top 10, Stoops is 8-5, Brown is 5-13 [through Feb-2007].
Against bowl opponents, Stoops is 4-4, Brown is 6-3 [through Feb-2007].
In championship games, Stoops is 5-4, Brown is 2-2 [through Feb-2007].
Big-12 Championships: Stoops 4, Brown 1. [Through Feb-2007]
Both Stoops and Brown have two BCS bowl victories. [through Feb-2006].
Brown had better recruiting classes than Stoops during Stoops first 3 years according to national media pundits like Max Emfinger. Since Bob Stoops became head coach at OU, OU has steadily improved their recruiting classes (again, according to the media pundits). Both schools have fielded top 10 recruiting classes for the past four years. For three of the past 4 years, OU was ranked higher than UT. Also see the "Player Development" section below. [through Feb-2007]
OU has 3 coaches in the College Football Hall of Fame (Bennie Owen, Bud Wilkinson, and Barry Switzer), UT has 2 (Darrell Royal, Dana Bible). [through Feb-2007]
OU has 3 coaches that have coached their squads to a national championship (Wilkinson, Switzer, and Stoops). UT has two coaches that coached a national championship squad (Royal and Brown). [through Feb-2007]
Conclusion: Coaching favors OU..
2. Head-to-Head
Overall Stats: Since their first meeting in 1900, UT leads the series at 57-39-5. [through Feb-2007]
Modern Era Stats (By Decade): Most of UT's 57 victories came before 1950. In fact, UT won more games than OU in each of the five decades included in 1900s to 1940s. However, if you look at the last 5 decades, OU wins three of the last five decades: 1950s, 1970s, and 1980s. And OU leads in 2000s. [through Feb-2007]
Modern Era Stats (Since 1970):
In games since 1970 [through Feb-2007]
source: adapted from a webpost by "The Voice of Reason"
OU-18 wins, UT-15 wins, and three ties.
The average score is: OU-25, Texas-18
The average score of an OU win: 35-13
The average score of a UT win: 26-15
Wins by 10 or more points: OU-13, UT-7
Wins by 20 or more points: OU-9, UT-3
Wins by 30 or more points: OU-5, UT-2
Wins by 40 or more points: OU-2, UT-0
20 points or more scored: OU-19, UT-15
30 points or more scored: OU-10, UT-5
40 points or more scored: OU-6, UT-1
50 points or more scored: OU-3, UT-0
60 points or more scored: OU-2, UT-0
Games decided by fewer than 10 points: UT-8, OU-4, three ties
So, basically, since 1970:
OU is more likely to win a game in a blowout (nine of OU's 18 wins are by 20 or more points). UT is more likely to win a game by less than ten points (eight of UT's 14 wins).
Conclusion: the school one favors for Head-to-Head depends upon how one treats modern era wins relative to wins from leather helmet days. Does Vanderbilt have a better team than UT? Vandy leads UT in head-to-head wins based on games played before World War II. Does Bethany College have a better team than OU? Bethany leads OU in head-to-head wins based on games played before 1910. Is Harvard one of the strongest teams in NCAA division 1 football? They are if you give equal weight to championships before Harding was president. On the other hand, one shouldn't ignore early accomplishments. Given that UT has a better record stretching back to 1900, and OU has a better record in the modern era, you can make a good case for either school. Which matters most to the prospective recruit? I'm not sure -- you decide.
3. Program Trends
OU will likely be in the top-10 when they face UT next season (the consensus of all the college football magazine preseason polls have UT ranked #??? and OU #???. When OU and UT are both in the top-10, the record is 7 wins for OU, 6 wins for UT, and 1 tie. When OU and UT are both in the top-5, the record is 4 wins for OU, 3 wins for UT, and 1 tie. OU won the last meeting both teams were in the top-5.
When OU is ranked ahead of UT in the AP on game-day, OU leads the series 22-9-2. [through Feb-2007]
When UT is ranked ahead of OU in the AP on game-day, UT leads the series 18-5-1. [through Feb-2007]
UT has a 2 game winning streak (ending a 5 game streak by OU). [as of Feb-2007]
OU has won more head-to-head games during this decade. [2000s]
UT has won their last 3 bowl games.
UT has won 9 games (including bowl games) in each of the past 9 years. [through Feb-2007]
Both OU and UT have won 1 national championship during this decade. [2000s]
OU has won 4 conference championships and UT has won 1 conference championship during this decade. [2000s]
OU has appeared in more BCS Bowls during this decade (5 to 2). [2000s]
OU has ended the season with a higher rank than UT more often during this decade (6 to 1). [2000s]
OU has a better win-loss record during this decade (79-14-0 to 75-14-0). [2000s]
Conclusion: Program Trends favor OU.
4. Championships
Number of National Championships: OU has more national championships: OU has 7 national championships (1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000). UT has 4 (1963, 1969, 1970, 2005). [through Feb-2007]
Most recent National Championship: UT has won the most recent National Championship (2005). [through Feb-2007]
Conference Championships: OU has more conference championships: OU has 40 conference championships. UT has 32 conference championships. [through Feb-2007]
Most recent Conference Championship: OU is the 2006 Big12 champs. [through Feb-2007]
Conclusion: Championships favors OU.
5. Tradition (Noteworthy Achievements)
OU holds the NCAA record for longest winning streak (47 games) and has three winning streaks of 28 or more games (something unique to OU). UT's longest winning streak is 30 games. [through Feb-2007]
OU has finished in the AP top-5 more times than any other school (28 times through 2006 season). UT has finished in the AP top-5 17 times.
OU has spent more total weeks ranked #1 by the AP poll than UT (95 to 42). In fact, OU holds the current record for weeks ranked #1. OU also has more appearances in the top 10 (644 to 623).
Dr. Robert Lemieux has developed a historical ranking of college football teams based on AP ranking (which began in 1936). By dividing each team's average positions in the postseason media and coaches polls by the percentage of times it appeared in the polls, Lemieux ranked 94 current I-A teams. OU ranks #1 among all Div-1A teams; UT was not in the top 5.
OU ranks 5th and UT ranks 6th in an All-Time Team ranking developed by College Football Warehouse. [as of Feb-2007]
OU has finished the season ranked in the top-20 more times: 49 to 45 [through Feb-2007].
UT has more bowl appearances: 46 to 40 [through Feb-2007].
UT is ranked 6th all-time and OU is ranked 7th all-time by Billingsley.
UT is ranked 6th all-time and OU is ranked 25th all time by David DeLassus
OU has the #5 winning percentage for bowl games among all Div. 1 teams with 20 or more appearences: OU is .613 (24-15-1), UT is .522 (23-21-2). [through Feb-2007]
OU is ranked first in winning percentage since World War II (1946 to present). UT is ranked 8th. [through Feb-2006]
The NCAA lists OU in their list of "Famous Major-College Dynasties" (page 99). OU is included twice in the list of 12 dynasties; UT is not included in the list.
The Information Please Almanac has developed an all-time rating system based on top-20, top-10, and national championships. OU ranks higher than UT (3 to 8).
According to the QRPS ranking system of all college football programs since 1940, OU has a better football program than UT.
According to ESPN, two of the top 10 college teams of all time have been Oklahoma, UT has zero.
According to the QRPS ranking system of all college football programs since 1940, OU has more teams ranked as OU has more in ranked in the top 100 (OU has 14, UT has 7), and more ranked in the top 20 (OU has 3, UT has 0).
UT has been to a bowl game every year but 1997 since the Big 12 formed.
UT was ranked #2 most desirable place to coach college football according to a journalist for EEE Sports (see http://www.eeesports.net/TopTenschools.htm) OU was not ranked.
Conclusion: Overall Tradition favors OU.
6. Winning and Winning Percentage (All Opponents)
UT has more total victories: 810 to 765 [through Feb-2007]. (UT also has more losses -- they played more games in the early days of college football.)
OU has a longer winning streak: OU at 47 games, UT at 30 games. [through Feb-2007]
OU has won more Big-12 Championships: Ou at 4, UT at 2. [through Feb-2007]
OU has more undefeated and untied seasons: OU at 12, UT at 9. [through Feb-2007]
UT has a better all time winning percentage: .713 to .711 [through Feb-2007]
OU has a better winning percentage in Bowl games: .613 to .522 [through Feb-2007]
OU has fewer losing seasons (the Sooners have the fewest losing seasons of any major college with 11).
During the last five decades (1950 to 2000 inclusive) OU has a .742 winning percentage (420-142-12), and UT has a .698 winning percentage (398-170-9).
OU has more bowl victories: 25 to 23 [through Feb-2007].
Tie: Both UT and OU have two BCS bowl victories. [through Feb-2007].
Conclusion: Winning and Winning Percentage (All Opponents) favors OU.
7. Player Development
Ultimately, a serious football recruit should be interested in which school he will develop best. Here is an analysis of the class of 1999 by ESPN. Here's a second analysis directly comparing OU and UT. [Thanks to Sooner94 for second analysis]
Bob Stoops has coached 9 different players which have won awards. These 9 players won 16 awards with some winning multiple awards. Awards have went to various positions These awards represent Defense, Offense, Special Teams, and Overall. Mack Brown has coached 6 players which have won ten awards for Offense, Defense, and Overall awards.
Award Winners Coached by Stoops (left) and Brown (right)
Unitas: J.White
Maxwell: J.White
Outland: J.Brown
Lombardi: T.Harris
W.Camp: J.Heupel
Nagurski: D.Strait
Nagurski: R.Williams
Butkus: R.Calmus
Butkus: T.Lehman
Bednarki: T.Lehman
O'Brien: J.White (twice)
Heisman: J.White
Tatupu:J.T.Thatcher
J.Thorpe: D.Strait
J.Thorpe: R.Williams
Maxwell: V.Young
Maxwell: R.Williams
W.Camp: R.Williams
Nagurski: D.Johnson
Butkus: D.Johnson
O'Brien: V.Young
D.Walker: R.Williams
D.Walker: C.Benson
Heisman: R.Williams
Thorpe: M.Huff
Thorpe: A.Ross
UT has more first round draft picks (UT has 38, OU has 35 -- through the 2005 draft, includes #1 selections in supplemental drafts). [Source: click here for UT and click here for OU]
OU has more total players drafted into the NFL (319 to 278 -- through the 2005 draft).
OU has more active players in the NFL (29 to 28) [As of Dec-07-2006].
OU had players included in the top 10 players of 2001 (Roy Williams), and the top 10 players of 2000 (Josh Heupel). UT had a player included in top 10 players in 1998 (Ricky Williams).
OU has more Consensus All-Americans ( 66 to 47 through the 2005 season) [source: NCAA 2004 Records, pg. 225]. OU has more Unanimous All-Americans ( 31 to 20 through the 2005 season) [source: NCAA 2004 Records, pg. 225 (indicated by asterisk)].
OU has more players inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame (18 to 11) [through Sep-2007]
OU has more coaches inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame (5 to 1) [through Sep-2007]
OU has more Heisman trophy (Player of the Year) winners (4 to 2) [through Feb-2007]
OU had the most recent Heisman winner (2003).
UT has more Maxwell (Player of the Year) award winners (3 and 2) [through Feb-2007]
UT had the most recent Maxwell award winner (2005).
OU has more Walter Camp (Player of the Year) award winners (4 to 1) [through Feb-2007]
OU had the most recent Walter Camp winner (2000).
OU has had more role-specific awards than UT (24 to 12):
OU has more Outland Trophy (Interior Lineman) winners (5 to 3).
OU had the most recent Outland winner (2004).
OU has more Jim Thorpe award (Defensive Back) winners (3 to 2).
UT had the most recent Jim Thorpe winner (2006).
UT has more Doak Walker (Running Back) award winers (3 to 0).
UT had the most recent Doak Walker winner (2004).
OU has more Bronko Nagurski (Defensive Player) award winers (2 to 1).
UT had the most recent Bronko Nagurski award winner (2004)
OU has more Lombardi (Lineman) award winners (3 to 2).
OU had the most recent Lombardi winner (2003).
OU has more Butkus (Linebacker) Award winners (4 to 1).
UT had the most recent Butkus award winner (2004).
OU has more Mosi Tatupu (Special Teams) award winners (1 to 0).
OU had the most recent Mosi Tatupu award winner (2000).
Tie: Both UT and OU have the same number of Davey O'Brien (Quarterback) winners (2 and 2).
UT had the most recent Davey O'Brien award winner (2005).
OU has more Johnny Unitas (Quarterback) winners (1 to 0).
OU had the most recent Johnny Unitas award winner (2004).
OU has more Chuck Bednarik (Top Defensive) award winners (1 to 0).
OU had the most recent Chuck Bednarik award winner (2003).
Conclusion: Player Development favors OU.
CONCLUSION
UT has a good football program, but the facts show that OU has a better program. Nevertheless, it seems that hope springs eternal in the Longhorn heart and that their fans are always looking through rose colored (burnt-orange colored?) glasses. It's interesting to note that over the last 16 years, UT's pre-season rank has been over-rated 10 times, and eight of those pre-season over rankings were off by 5 or more. Maybe if someone hears enough hype about UT they begin to believe the hype. It's interesting to read the response from UT fans when they're confronted with the above facts -- click here for a list of comments and acknowledgements from both OU and UT fans (last updated Jan-30-2007). Regardless of the hype and spin coming from Austin, OU's football program is clearly superior to UT's football program when one looks at the facts.
Perhaps there is some insight in the school colors of the two universities. OU's colors are crimson and cream, and UT's color is burnt orange. Crimson and cream are the colors of blood and guts, of bone and marrow -- they represent commitment and a depth of conviction. This is in keeping with the attitudes expressed by OU's head coach Bob Stoops: no nonsense, no excuses, win by better preparation and more heart. Burnt orange is the color of the setting sun as seen through a thick haze -- it represents a time when the once bright sun has subsided over the horizon, a time when even the sun is reduced to modest heat and brightness. This is in keeping with the squandered talent and the attitudes expressed by UT's head coach Mack Brown: UT doesn't really lose games, they just "run out of time" like the last few minutes of daylight at sunset.
however, its wedensday evening and there is precious little time and quite frankly i haven't seen much sheite talking......time to crank up the heat.....
TEXAS FANS, suck it......
http://xenon.stanford.edu/~trj/comparing_ou_ut.html
1. Coaching
OU is coached by Bob Stoops. UT is coached by Mack Brown. Stoops has received 8 Coach of the Year honors by 7 organizations, Brown has received 1. Stoops has received AFCA, FWAA, HomeDepot, BearBryant, WalterCamp (twice), BobbyDodd, and GeorgeMunger national coach of the year honors. Brown has received BearBryant coach of year honors. [through Feb-2007]
Stoops has the third highest winning percentage among active Division 1A coaches with 5 or more years. Brown is not in the top 20 [through Feb-2007].
Through Feb-2006, Stoops' winning percentage is .824 (86-19), Brown's is .809 at UT (93-22) and .650 overall (179-96-1). [through Feb-2007]
Against teams that finish in the AP top 10, Stoops is 8-5, Brown is 5-13 [through Feb-2007].
Against bowl opponents, Stoops is 4-4, Brown is 6-3 [through Feb-2007].
In championship games, Stoops is 5-4, Brown is 2-2 [through Feb-2007].
Big-12 Championships: Stoops 4, Brown 1. [Through Feb-2007]
Both Stoops and Brown have two BCS bowl victories. [through Feb-2006].
Brown had better recruiting classes than Stoops during Stoops first 3 years according to national media pundits like Max Emfinger. Since Bob Stoops became head coach at OU, OU has steadily improved their recruiting classes (again, according to the media pundits). Both schools have fielded top 10 recruiting classes for the past four years. For three of the past 4 years, OU was ranked higher than UT. Also see the "Player Development" section below. [through Feb-2007]
OU has 3 coaches in the College Football Hall of Fame (Bennie Owen, Bud Wilkinson, and Barry Switzer), UT has 2 (Darrell Royal, Dana Bible). [through Feb-2007]
OU has 3 coaches that have coached their squads to a national championship (Wilkinson, Switzer, and Stoops). UT has two coaches that coached a national championship squad (Royal and Brown). [through Feb-2007]
Conclusion: Coaching favors OU..
2. Head-to-Head
Overall Stats: Since their first meeting in 1900, UT leads the series at 57-39-5. [through Feb-2007]
Modern Era Stats (By Decade): Most of UT's 57 victories came before 1950. In fact, UT won more games than OU in each of the five decades included in 1900s to 1940s. However, if you look at the last 5 decades, OU wins three of the last five decades: 1950s, 1970s, and 1980s. And OU leads in 2000s. [through Feb-2007]
Modern Era Stats (Since 1970):
In games since 1970 [through Feb-2007]
source: adapted from a webpost by "The Voice of Reason"
OU-18 wins, UT-15 wins, and three ties.
The average score is: OU-25, Texas-18
The average score of an OU win: 35-13
The average score of a UT win: 26-15
Wins by 10 or more points: OU-13, UT-7
Wins by 20 or more points: OU-9, UT-3
Wins by 30 or more points: OU-5, UT-2
Wins by 40 or more points: OU-2, UT-0
20 points or more scored: OU-19, UT-15
30 points or more scored: OU-10, UT-5
40 points or more scored: OU-6, UT-1
50 points or more scored: OU-3, UT-0
60 points or more scored: OU-2, UT-0
Games decided by fewer than 10 points: UT-8, OU-4, three ties
So, basically, since 1970:
OU is more likely to win a game in a blowout (nine of OU's 18 wins are by 20 or more points). UT is more likely to win a game by less than ten points (eight of UT's 14 wins).
Conclusion: the school one favors for Head-to-Head depends upon how one treats modern era wins relative to wins from leather helmet days. Does Vanderbilt have a better team than UT? Vandy leads UT in head-to-head wins based on games played before World War II. Does Bethany College have a better team than OU? Bethany leads OU in head-to-head wins based on games played before 1910. Is Harvard one of the strongest teams in NCAA division 1 football? They are if you give equal weight to championships before Harding was president. On the other hand, one shouldn't ignore early accomplishments. Given that UT has a better record stretching back to 1900, and OU has a better record in the modern era, you can make a good case for either school. Which matters most to the prospective recruit? I'm not sure -- you decide.
3. Program Trends
OU will likely be in the top-10 when they face UT next season (the consensus of all the college football magazine preseason polls have UT ranked #??? and OU #???. When OU and UT are both in the top-10, the record is 7 wins for OU, 6 wins for UT, and 1 tie. When OU and UT are both in the top-5, the record is 4 wins for OU, 3 wins for UT, and 1 tie. OU won the last meeting both teams were in the top-5.
When OU is ranked ahead of UT in the AP on game-day, OU leads the series 22-9-2. [through Feb-2007]
When UT is ranked ahead of OU in the AP on game-day, UT leads the series 18-5-1. [through Feb-2007]
UT has a 2 game winning streak (ending a 5 game streak by OU). [as of Feb-2007]
OU has won more head-to-head games during this decade. [2000s]
UT has won their last 3 bowl games.
UT has won 9 games (including bowl games) in each of the past 9 years. [through Feb-2007]
Both OU and UT have won 1 national championship during this decade. [2000s]
OU has won 4 conference championships and UT has won 1 conference championship during this decade. [2000s]
OU has appeared in more BCS Bowls during this decade (5 to 2). [2000s]
OU has ended the season with a higher rank than UT more often during this decade (6 to 1). [2000s]
OU has a better win-loss record during this decade (79-14-0 to 75-14-0). [2000s]
Conclusion: Program Trends favor OU.
4. Championships
Number of National Championships: OU has more national championships: OU has 7 national championships (1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000). UT has 4 (1963, 1969, 1970, 2005). [through Feb-2007]
Most recent National Championship: UT has won the most recent National Championship (2005). [through Feb-2007]
Conference Championships: OU has more conference championships: OU has 40 conference championships. UT has 32 conference championships. [through Feb-2007]
Most recent Conference Championship: OU is the 2006 Big12 champs. [through Feb-2007]
Conclusion: Championships favors OU.
5. Tradition (Noteworthy Achievements)
OU holds the NCAA record for longest winning streak (47 games) and has three winning streaks of 28 or more games (something unique to OU). UT's longest winning streak is 30 games. [through Feb-2007]
OU has finished in the AP top-5 more times than any other school (28 times through 2006 season). UT has finished in the AP top-5 17 times.
OU has spent more total weeks ranked #1 by the AP poll than UT (95 to 42). In fact, OU holds the current record for weeks ranked #1. OU also has more appearances in the top 10 (644 to 623).
Dr. Robert Lemieux has developed a historical ranking of college football teams based on AP ranking (which began in 1936). By dividing each team's average positions in the postseason media and coaches polls by the percentage of times it appeared in the polls, Lemieux ranked 94 current I-A teams. OU ranks #1 among all Div-1A teams; UT was not in the top 5.
OU ranks 5th and UT ranks 6th in an All-Time Team ranking developed by College Football Warehouse. [as of Feb-2007]
OU has finished the season ranked in the top-20 more times: 49 to 45 [through Feb-2007].
UT has more bowl appearances: 46 to 40 [through Feb-2007].
UT is ranked 6th all-time and OU is ranked 7th all-time by Billingsley.
UT is ranked 6th all-time and OU is ranked 25th all time by David DeLassus
OU has the #5 winning percentage for bowl games among all Div. 1 teams with 20 or more appearences: OU is .613 (24-15-1), UT is .522 (23-21-2). [through Feb-2007]
OU is ranked first in winning percentage since World War II (1946 to present). UT is ranked 8th. [through Feb-2006]
The NCAA lists OU in their list of "Famous Major-College Dynasties" (page 99). OU is included twice in the list of 12 dynasties; UT is not included in the list.
The Information Please Almanac has developed an all-time rating system based on top-20, top-10, and national championships. OU ranks higher than UT (3 to 8).
According to the QRPS ranking system of all college football programs since 1940, OU has a better football program than UT.
According to ESPN, two of the top 10 college teams of all time have been Oklahoma, UT has zero.
According to the QRPS ranking system of all college football programs since 1940, OU has more teams ranked as OU has more in ranked in the top 100 (OU has 14, UT has 7), and more ranked in the top 20 (OU has 3, UT has 0).
UT has been to a bowl game every year but 1997 since the Big 12 formed.
UT was ranked #2 most desirable place to coach college football according to a journalist for EEE Sports (see http://www.eeesports.net/TopTenschools.htm) OU was not ranked.
Conclusion: Overall Tradition favors OU.
6. Winning and Winning Percentage (All Opponents)
UT has more total victories: 810 to 765 [through Feb-2007]. (UT also has more losses -- they played more games in the early days of college football.)
OU has a longer winning streak: OU at 47 games, UT at 30 games. [through Feb-2007]
OU has won more Big-12 Championships: Ou at 4, UT at 2. [through Feb-2007]
OU has more undefeated and untied seasons: OU at 12, UT at 9. [through Feb-2007]
UT has a better all time winning percentage: .713 to .711 [through Feb-2007]
OU has a better winning percentage in Bowl games: .613 to .522 [through Feb-2007]
OU has fewer losing seasons (the Sooners have the fewest losing seasons of any major college with 11).
During the last five decades (1950 to 2000 inclusive) OU has a .742 winning percentage (420-142-12), and UT has a .698 winning percentage (398-170-9).
OU has more bowl victories: 25 to 23 [through Feb-2007].
Tie: Both UT and OU have two BCS bowl victories. [through Feb-2007].
Conclusion: Winning and Winning Percentage (All Opponents) favors OU.
7. Player Development
Ultimately, a serious football recruit should be interested in which school he will develop best. Here is an analysis of the class of 1999 by ESPN. Here's a second analysis directly comparing OU and UT. [Thanks to Sooner94 for second analysis]
Bob Stoops has coached 9 different players which have won awards. These 9 players won 16 awards with some winning multiple awards. Awards have went to various positions These awards represent Defense, Offense, Special Teams, and Overall. Mack Brown has coached 6 players which have won ten awards for Offense, Defense, and Overall awards.
Award Winners Coached by Stoops (left) and Brown (right)
Unitas: J.White
Maxwell: J.White
Outland: J.Brown
Lombardi: T.Harris
W.Camp: J.Heupel
Nagurski: D.Strait
Nagurski: R.Williams
Butkus: R.Calmus
Butkus: T.Lehman
Bednarki: T.Lehman
O'Brien: J.White (twice)
Heisman: J.White
Tatupu:J.T.Thatcher
J.Thorpe: D.Strait
J.Thorpe: R.Williams
Maxwell: V.Young
Maxwell: R.Williams
W.Camp: R.Williams
Nagurski: D.Johnson
Butkus: D.Johnson
O'Brien: V.Young
D.Walker: R.Williams
D.Walker: C.Benson
Heisman: R.Williams
Thorpe: M.Huff
Thorpe: A.Ross
UT has more first round draft picks (UT has 38, OU has 35 -- through the 2005 draft, includes #1 selections in supplemental drafts). [Source: click here for UT and click here for OU]
OU has more total players drafted into the NFL (319 to 278 -- through the 2005 draft).
OU has more active players in the NFL (29 to 28) [As of Dec-07-2006].
OU had players included in the top 10 players of 2001 (Roy Williams), and the top 10 players of 2000 (Josh Heupel). UT had a player included in top 10 players in 1998 (Ricky Williams).
OU has more Consensus All-Americans ( 66 to 47 through the 2005 season) [source: NCAA 2004 Records, pg. 225]. OU has more Unanimous All-Americans ( 31 to 20 through the 2005 season) [source: NCAA 2004 Records, pg. 225 (indicated by asterisk)].
OU has more players inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame (18 to 11) [through Sep-2007]
OU has more coaches inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame (5 to 1) [through Sep-2007]
OU has more Heisman trophy (Player of the Year) winners (4 to 2) [through Feb-2007]
OU had the most recent Heisman winner (2003).
UT has more Maxwell (Player of the Year) award winners (3 and 2) [through Feb-2007]
UT had the most recent Maxwell award winner (2005).
OU has more Walter Camp (Player of the Year) award winners (4 to 1) [through Feb-2007]
OU had the most recent Walter Camp winner (2000).
OU has had more role-specific awards than UT (24 to 12):
OU has more Outland Trophy (Interior Lineman) winners (5 to 3).
OU had the most recent Outland winner (2004).
OU has more Jim Thorpe award (Defensive Back) winners (3 to 2).
UT had the most recent Jim Thorpe winner (2006).
UT has more Doak Walker (Running Back) award winers (3 to 0).
UT had the most recent Doak Walker winner (2004).
OU has more Bronko Nagurski (Defensive Player) award winers (2 to 1).
UT had the most recent Bronko Nagurski award winner (2004)
OU has more Lombardi (Lineman) award winners (3 to 2).
OU had the most recent Lombardi winner (2003).
OU has more Butkus (Linebacker) Award winners (4 to 1).
UT had the most recent Butkus award winner (2004).
OU has more Mosi Tatupu (Special Teams) award winners (1 to 0).
OU had the most recent Mosi Tatupu award winner (2000).
Tie: Both UT and OU have the same number of Davey O'Brien (Quarterback) winners (2 and 2).
UT had the most recent Davey O'Brien award winner (2005).
OU has more Johnny Unitas (Quarterback) winners (1 to 0).
OU had the most recent Johnny Unitas award winner (2004).
OU has more Chuck Bednarik (Top Defensive) award winners (1 to 0).
OU had the most recent Chuck Bednarik award winner (2003).
Conclusion: Player Development favors OU.
CONCLUSION
UT has a good football program, but the facts show that OU has a better program. Nevertheless, it seems that hope springs eternal in the Longhorn heart and that their fans are always looking through rose colored (burnt-orange colored?) glasses. It's interesting to note that over the last 16 years, UT's pre-season rank has been over-rated 10 times, and eight of those pre-season over rankings were off by 5 or more. Maybe if someone hears enough hype about UT they begin to believe the hype. It's interesting to read the response from UT fans when they're confronted with the above facts -- click here for a list of comments and acknowledgements from both OU and UT fans (last updated Jan-30-2007). Regardless of the hype and spin coming from Austin, OU's football program is clearly superior to UT's football program when one looks at the facts.
Perhaps there is some insight in the school colors of the two universities. OU's colors are crimson and cream, and UT's color is burnt orange. Crimson and cream are the colors of blood and guts, of bone and marrow -- they represent commitment and a depth of conviction. This is in keeping with the attitudes expressed by OU's head coach Bob Stoops: no nonsense, no excuses, win by better preparation and more heart. Burnt orange is the color of the setting sun as seen through a thick haze -- it represents a time when the once bright sun has subsided over the horizon, a time when even the sun is reduced to modest heat and brightness. This is in keeping with the squandered talent and the attitudes expressed by UT's head coach Mack Brown: UT doesn't really lose games, they just "run out of time" like the last few minutes of daylight at sunset.