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Widescreen
10/3/2007, 12:38 PM
They need to sit him down for at least a week if not more. We're talking about a kid's life here. If he was puking on the sideline the other day, it wasn't a good situation. From a fan perspective, I think he provides us with a better chance to win because running QB's at times have been kryptonite for our defense but I don't want to see any player's health endangered.

MextheBulldog
10/3/2007, 01:10 PM
Trainer cleared him, but i'm predicting we see Chiles at some point. One good hit and he's seeing stars/little birdies.

Rhino
10/3/2007, 01:14 PM
Oh, they'll play him.

I'll be surprised if he's there in the second half though.

Flagstaffsooner
10/3/2007, 01:26 PM
Hope he doent get a Chrissy hangnail.

fadada1
10/3/2007, 01:28 PM
Hope he doent get a Chrissy hangnail.
you're on the list now, buddy.

yermom
10/3/2007, 01:30 PM
Oh, they'll play him.

I'll be surprised if he's there in the second half though.

that's what i'm afraid of... ala Reggie McNeal in 2002

nice AV by the way ;)

douxpaysan
10/3/2007, 01:32 PM
Hope the kid is ok. Whether he plays or not ....muh....whoever plays is gonna get a dose. BTHOT

colleyvillesooner
10/3/2007, 01:33 PM
Then we should make sure we're up 5 TD's before he leaves then. :D

Boomer.....
10/3/2007, 01:33 PM
As long as they get all that sand out, he'll be fine.

douxpaysan
10/3/2007, 01:35 PM
Hope he doent get a Chrissy hangnail.
You mean baby horse hoof? :D BTHOT

CitySooner
10/3/2007, 02:20 PM
Let's just hope we go after him on every play UNLIKE we did against Hawkins.......geeeez

Readyfor8
10/3/2007, 03:18 PM
After all the times I have heard Texans call out Bob Stoops for "throwing a player under the bus" to win, I can't believe they are going to start Colt after the beating he has taken in thier last 3 BigXII losses.

BillyBall
10/3/2007, 03:28 PM
that's what i'm afraid of... ala Reggie McNeal in 2002

nice AV by the way ;)

Me too, spread option qbs have had success against us.

yermom
10/3/2007, 03:30 PM
i'm just hoping we are prepared for how he plays

colleyvillesooner
10/3/2007, 03:33 PM
Besides Reggie McNeal, what Freshman Dual Threat QB had success against us?

rhombic21
10/3/2007, 03:36 PM
Brad Smith.

colleyvillesooner
10/3/2007, 03:38 PM
Brad Smith.

And we won. Close, but we won. And our "O" this year is WAY better than 2002.

rhombic21
10/3/2007, 03:44 PM
We won, but he moved the ball all over us.

colleyvillesooner
10/3/2007, 03:48 PM
As long as we beat Texas, I couldn't care less what Chiles stats are.

GrapevineSooner
10/3/2007, 03:56 PM
And we won. Close, but we won. And our "O" this year is WAY better than 2002.

Yeah, Bradford's much better than Hybl ever was.





;)

colleyvillesooner
10/3/2007, 04:09 PM
:les: YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!!!!

NormanPride
10/3/2007, 04:31 PM
How about McGee? Yeah, we haven't lost to one besides McNeal on the road, but every one I can think of has given us fits. And it is the whorns.

colleyvillesooner
10/3/2007, 04:38 PM
How about McGee? Yeah, we haven't lost to one besides McNeal on the road, but every one I can think of has given us fits. And it is the whorns.

McGee
Freshman - 2006 - 8/18 63 yds passing, 28 rushing, 0 TD's
Sophomore - 2005 - 0/6 0 yds passing, 67 rushing, 0 TD's

B Smith (torched us his Fres. year (2002), but we won)
Sophomore 2003 - 180 yds passing, 50 rushing.

D. Dixon (Holiday Bowl)
Sophomore - 2005 - 11/19 107 yds passing, 5 yds rushing on 9 attempts.

I understand certain dual threats have given us trouble, but they were almost always upperclassmen, been in the system for a while: VY, Dennis Dixon

birddog
10/3/2007, 04:39 PM
with that offensive line, throwing mccoy out there is very irresponsible. he has the classic symptoms of a concussion and this is his second one. of course colt wants to play but at some point they have to step in because another hit could cause permanent damage.

do the right thing mack.

GrapevineSooner
10/3/2007, 04:39 PM
Getting back to the topic at hand, I do think it would be in Colt's best longterm interests for Mack to put a short leash on him on Saturday.

The kid's got talent and the kid's got guts. And I'd hate to see that wasted away because of a concussion.

Nevermind the effects that a concussion can have on life away from the football field.

aero
10/3/2007, 04:59 PM
I would be semi surprised if colt sees action on Saturday and real surprised if he makes it through the 1st quarter. I can see him starting the first series just so mack can say he is still the starter. Unless I missed a different report, the only thing I've seen is he was cleared by "the trainer" which, concerning a concussion is like being cleared by bevo. Until I see a report that he has been cleared by a doctor, my belief is he won't play. My guess is the word out of austin is solely to keep OU guessing who to prep for, most likely Chiles.

Leroy Lizard
10/4/2007, 12:35 AM
If a freshman steps in, he will have the game of his life. Mark it!

We might still win, but these replacement QBs always seems to fire offenses up and play above their abilities. Why, I don't know.

I would rather face Colt. Bad karma.

GottaHavePride
10/4/2007, 12:42 AM
you're on the list now, buddy.

http://reich.morpheus.net/pics/simmshelmet.jpg

utex74
10/4/2007, 12:47 AM
Oh, they'll play him.

I'll be surprised if he's there in the second half though.

If the OL doesn't give him enough time to go through is reads and you guys hit him like he has been hit I also think he will be done by half time. No one can take the beating he is taking and stay upright for long. (see Troy Aikman his first year with the Cowboys) This game will turn on our OL and our linebackers, both who better step up.

goingoneight
10/4/2007, 12:48 AM
Let's just hope we take care of the football on offense, that way our defense won't look so human and will look like the badazzes they are.
FIFY.

utex74
10/4/2007, 12:50 AM
I would be semi surprised if colt sees action on Saturday and real surprised if he makes it through the 1st quarter. I can see him starting the first series just so mack can say he is still the starter. Unless I missed a different report, the only thing I've seen is he was cleared by "the trainer" which, concerning a concussion is like being cleared by bevo. Until I see a report that he has been cleared by a doctor, my belief is he won't play. My guess is the word out of austin is solely to keep OU guessing who to prep for, most likely Chiles.

Not that I doubt our folks, but if Colt was my kid I would want him evaluated by a specialist who doesn't work for UT. (I'd say the same about any program)

goingoneight
10/4/2007, 01:02 AM
Doc: "So Colt, how many fingers am I holding up?"
Colt: "BARF!!!"
:mack: "Let me answer that one for Colt..."

westcoast_sooner
10/4/2007, 01:02 AM
If Colt's been cleared, I'd expect him to play. And if I were BV, my defensive game plan would be to put as much pressure on him as possible, figuring I'd get a couple of turnovers out of a rattled QB. While I don't want to see a kid hurt, if he's out there, I have to figure he's healthy enough to play.

If Chiles plays on Saturday, I'd pressure him as well, figuring a rookie would be a little easier to rattle than a veteran QB.

Either way, the game plan should include a lot of pressure. My prediction is that they won't be able to move much, and we'll have plenty of opportunities.

Crucifax Autumn
10/4/2007, 01:12 AM
I'd say the real question is "Will Colt be heterosexual Saturday?"

Redgiant2
10/4/2007, 01:56 AM
Who do you think has the more athletic O-line, the buffs or horns? Colorado was getting out to the LB's in the second-half and I haven't seen much of Texas at all so who knows what they'll do. Hopefully OU will come out AGGRESSIVE this week and the D-line will handle whoever's in there so the secondary won't have to. It's all up in the air right now. They didn't handle the physical play of CU very well so how will they handle the loss? How will this team handle a mobile QB if Colt doesn't play? Who knows.

Octavian
10/4/2007, 03:02 AM
Who do you think has the more athletic O-line, the buffs or horns?


Texas.


But their OL schemes are designed to slide horizontally and secure lanes for the RB (also moving sideways) at the appropriate time....the RB is then supposed to pick the available opening and turn on the jets. It's a finesse offense. Texas hasn't shown a consistent ability to line up in the I and punish teams with a straight-ahead running game.




Colorado was getting out to the LB's in the second-half...


that's true.


But that only happened after they were on the field for 2 straight hours. Through 4.5 games, the D stopped the run very well. Conditioning is a strength of ours, but the D got gassed late in the 3rd. They were just on the field a ridiculous amount of time. The D could've made more stops in the secondary, but the O must do better.

Octavian
10/4/2007, 03:06 AM
and Colt seems like a good guy, I hope they don't let him get his brains scrambled for this game or any other.


But if he plays....he's a football player on a football field and I wanna see his facemask in the grass as much possible.

TheHumanAlphabet
10/4/2007, 04:08 AM
Oh, Mack'll play him.

I'll be surprised if he's lasts through the season though.

Fixed it for ya...

aero
10/4/2007, 07:03 AM
Not that I doubt our folks, but if Colt was my kid I would want him evaluated by a specialist who doesn't work for UT. (I'd say the same about any program)

Exactly my point, utex. I doubt most of the people around Colt, namely his family, would take that chance. I wouldn't with my kid. I also don't think most legitimate doctors would o.k. a kid to play a week after even a mild concussion. Hence the "cleared by trainer" report. He's not playing or there should be some serious evaluation of the program down there.

colleyvillesooner
10/4/2007, 07:49 AM
If a freshman steps in, he will have the game of his life. Mark it!

We might still win, but these replacement QBs always seems to fire offenses up and play above their abilities. Why, I don't know.

I would rather face Colt. Bad karma.

Besides Reggie McNeal, what young backup came in against us mid game, and won?

Redgiant2
10/4/2007, 02:18 PM
Texas.


But their OL schemes are designed to slide horizontally and secure lanes for the RB (also moving sideways) at the appropriate time....the RB is then supposed to pick the available opening and turn on the jets. It's a finesse offense. Texas hasn't shown a consistent ability to line up in the I and punish teams with a straight-ahead running game.


that's true.

But that only happened after they were on the field for 2 straight hours. Through 4.5 games, the D stopped the run very well. Conditioning is a strength of ours, but the D got gassed late in the 3rd. They were just on the field a ridiculous amount of time. The D could've made more stops in the secondary, but the O must do better.

Yeah I didn't think about the O-line playing sideways. That should give the game a completely different complexion around the line of scrimmage. The speed of the LB's should pay off IF they can stay free. The big question will be whether or not the secondary can hold up or can the D-line be fast enough to disrupt the QB before the play develops.

I still disagree completely with the whole "they were gassed" theory. The landslide began WAY before they should've been getting gassed. Colorado saw what they were doing, they knew the LB's were reacting to outside movement slowly and adjusted the play calling accordingly. The LB's simply got sealed to the inside which left the stove pipe completely open. They never adjusted to it. The corners were brought into run support which accounts for the huge cushion on second and shorts. The cushion gave them more time to peak inside for run/pass without getting left behind. This also, coincidentally, opened up the passing game for the outs and crossing patterns even more. Add to that they continually bail late and get run by anyway and you've got a 3 point loss after a 17 point lead.

r5TPsooner
10/4/2007, 03:57 PM
Call me a jerk but if an OU player knocks the puke out of him on Saturday... I'll be grinning.

footballfanatic
10/4/2007, 04:19 PM
As a Horn fan, i have to say that it's wrong to play him. Well, the trainers cleared him--there's a big surprise. There is little or no research on concussions--no one really knows how dangerous they are, and how lasting the effects are. All it takes is to watch John Mackey, former great NFL tight end being led around like a zombie to know how messed up the situation is. Did you know that one of the greatest Steeler lineman died in the streets last year, his mind completely shot? Players will ALWAYS claim they are okay--they play in such a competitive world, and they will never say no, but frankly, they are unqualified and too biased to make an objective opinion. In fact, the NFL SURPRESSED reserach on concussions for years, and it is only this year that the players union, led by Ditka, is making them answer to their conduct. WRONG.

Blue
10/4/2007, 04:54 PM
He'll be ok. He's got this guy blocking for him...

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