New Polls are out

[snp]

AP

1. USC (43) 3-0 1,601
2. LSU (22) 4-0 1,580
3. Oklahoma 4-0 1,456
4. Florida 4-0 1,417
5. West Virginia 4-0 1,388
6. California 4-0 1,263
7. Texas 4-0 1,196
8. Ohio State 4-0 1,193
9. Wisconsin 4-0 1,030
10. Rutgers 3-0 1,008
11. Oregon 4-0 944
12. Boston College 4-0 927
13. Clemson 4-0 807
14. Kentucky 4-0 708
15. Georgia 3-1 631
16. South Carolina 3-1 586
17. Virginia Tech 3-1 568
18. South Florida 3-0 539
19. Hawaii 4-0 471
20. Missouri 4-0 401
21. Penn State 3-1 337
22. Alabama 3-1 265
23. Arizona State 4-0 206
24. Cincinnati 4-0 164
25. Nebraska 3-1 134
Others Receiving Votes
Purdue 73, Miami (FL) 72, Michigan State 60, UCLA 27, Texas A&M 21, Michigan 21, Arkansas 10, Kansas 6, Florida State 5, UCF 4, Connecticut 3, Virginia 2, Tennessee 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Louisville 18, Texas A&M 20

Coaches Poll:

Rank Team (first-place votes) Record Points Last week
1. Southern California (44) 3-0 1,481 1
2. LSU (8) 4-0 1,438 2
3. Florida (4) 4-0 1,347 3
4. Oklahoma (4) 4-0 1,336 4
5. West Virginia 4-0 1,260 5
6. California 4-0 1,137 8
7. Texas 4-0 1,103 6
8. Ohio State 4-0 1,092 9
9. Wisconsin 4-0 1,026 7
10. Rutgers 3-0 901 11
11. Boston College 4-0 881 12
12. Oregon 4-0 878 13
13. Clemson 4-0 767 14(tie)
14. Virginia Tech 3-1 585 17
15. Kentucky 4-0 545 23
16. Georgia 3-1 516 21
17. Hawaii 4-0 479 18
18. South Florida 3-0 451 24
19. Penn State 3-1 397 10
20. Missouri 4-0 369 25
21. South Carolina 3-1 335 14 (tie)
22. Nebraska 3-1 209 22
23. Michigan State 4-0 167 NR
24. Alabama 3-1 154 20
25.(tie) Arizona State 4-0 151 NR
25.(tie) Purdue 4-0 151 NR

Dropped out

Dropped out: No.16 Texas A&M (3-1, lost to Miami, Fla. 34-17), No. 19 Louisville (2-2, lost to Syracuse 38-35)



Others receiving votes

Others receiving votes: Cincinnati (4-0) 84; UCLA (3-1) 69; Miami (Fla.) (3-1) 52; Kansas (4-0) 20; Texas A&M (3-1) 20; Boise State (2-1) 18; Louisville (2-2) 18; Michigan (2-2) 17; Georgia Tech (2-2) 10; Florida State (2-1) 8; Virginia (3-1) 7; TCU (2-2) 6; Central Florida (2-1) 5; Tennessee (2-2) 4; Iowa (2-2) 3; Air Force (3-1) 2; Mississippi State (3-1) 1.


Gained 3 #1 votes in the Coaches poll.

Harris Poll:

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[Crucifax Autumn]

Looking good, and for such a weak conference the Big 12 certainly does make a lot of appearances and near appearances here.

[Partial Qualifier]

I'm a tiny bit surprised Penn State is still in and Miami didn't make an appearance.

[SoonerBOI]

5 SEC and 4 Big 12 in the TOP 25, not bad for us.

[Octavian]

Although the AP poll is irrelevant in the BCS, it's nice to see us in the top 3 in one them.


It's all kind of trivial right now though. Unless something really unexpected happens, the LSU/Florida and OU/Texas winners will be ranked #2 and #3 regardless of current position.


After Oct. 6, the '07 season will have its structure.

[snp]

Although the AP poll is irrelevant in the BCS, it's nice to see us in the top 3 in one them.

Yup but since the Harris poll pretty much mimics the AP, it's a good gauge. I'll edit the post when the Harris comes out later today.

[SoonerEmpire]

I'm kind of disappointed that LSU didn't drop down a spot or two after only beating South Carolina by only 12 points. Granted, South Carolina is ranked in the bottom half of the rankings (regardless of which poll you look at), but I think a legitimate #2 team should have been able to do more damage than that. Keep in mind that LSU had to resort to a trick play or two in order to push it to a 12 point lead to begin with.

And how does Florida maintain a #3 ranking in the coaches poll after only beating an unranked, then 1-2, now 1-3 team by ONLY SEVEN points?!

I don't know... I suppose it will all work out soon enough. And like Octavian said, perhaps after 10/6, we'll start seeing the structure of how it will go the rest of the way.

[snp]

I'm kind of disappointed that LSU didn't drop down a spot or two after only beating South Carolina by only 12 points. Granted, South Carolina is ranked in the bottom half of the rankings (regardless of which poll you look at), but I think a legitimate #2 team should have been able to do more damage than that. Keep in mind that LSU had to resort to a trick play or two in order to push it to a 12 point lead to begin with.

I don't know... I suppose it will all work out soon enough. And like Octavian said, perhaps after 10/6, we'll start seeing the structure of how it will go the rest of the way.

LSU should be a consensus number 1. They're blowing the doors off the best competition outta the top 4 teams.

And last time I checked, a TD from a trick play is worth just as many points as a HB dive.

[OklahomaTuba]

We are in a GREAT position.

USC will lose to Oregon or Cal. And LSU will have to get by Florida twice most likely.

Its setting up very nice for a magical run this year.

[SoonerEmpire]

LSU should be a consensus number 1. They're blowing the doors off the best competition outta the top 4 teams.

And last time I checked, a TD from a trick play is worth just as many points as a HB dive.

I agree that they're playing better against better competition than the other top 4 teams. But only a 12 point win v South Carolina? Come on, man. Not to take anything away from South Carolina or disrespect Spurrier, but a #2 team should have been able to "blow the doors off" a lot harder than that, IMO.

And again, how does Florida maintain a #3 ranking after beating a then 1-2 team by ONLY SEVEN POINTS?!

[SoonerEmpire]

We are in a GREAT position.

USC will lose to Oregon or Cal. And LSU will have to get by Florida twice most likely.

Its setting up very nice for a magical run this year.

I agree completely. Everything will eventually work out. I just don't understand how a #2 team wins by only 12 and doesn't drop a spot or two. Or how a #3 team wins by only seven and doesn't drop.

[IronHorseSooner]

I know that it really doesn't matter right now, but why in God's Green Earth is UF ranked ahead of us in the Coaches' Poll? I'm not much into conspiracy theories, but I do know that Drunkenberger does have a vote. Could that have a factor?

[snp]

I agree that they're playing better against better competition than the other top 4 teams. But only a 12 point win v South Carolina? Come on, man. Not to take anything away from South Carolina or disrespect Spurrier, but a #2 team should have been able to "blow the doors off" a lot harder than that, IMO.

And again, how does Florida maintain a #3 ranking after beating a then 1-2 team by ONLY SEVEN POINTS?!

What you're advocating is an extremely fluid ranking system, something that we both know will never happen.

And it was on the road, I'll give the defending champs the benefit of the doubt.

[GottaHavePride]

I know that it really doesn't matter right now, but why in God's Green Earth is UF ranked ahead of us in the Coaches' Poll? I'm not much into conspiracy theories, but I do know that Drunkenberger does have a vote. Could that have a factor?

They're defending national champs, they haven't lost yet, and they look pretty good. I think the margin is MUCH narrower this week in the coaches' poll, though. Another week or two of us stomping holes in people and Florida being less impressive and we may jump them. Of course, if they pound LSU and we pound Texas they may pull back ahead, putting us at #3 until Florida or SOCal loses.

[snp]

They're defending national champs, they haven't lost yet, and they look pretty good. I think the margin is MUCH narrower this week in the coaches' poll, though. Another week or two of us stomping holes in people and Florida being less impressive and we may jump them. Of course, if they pound LSU and we pound Texas they may pull back ahead, putting us at #3 until Florida or SOCal loses.

Yup, there were 60 points separating UF and us in the coaches poll last week, it's down to 11 now. We're also within 150 points of USC and we started out 350 points down. (I'm discounting the preseason poll since it's a pos)

[StormySooner-IN]

Don't forget to vote us #1... (http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/rank?versionId=5&listId=22)


:D

[snp]

op is updated with Harris Poll.

[tulsaoilerfan]

Nebraska should not even be near the Top 25, let alone in it; sorry to the Nebraska fans that post here, but they have not looked good this season.

[Ash]

I agree that they're playing better against better competition than the other top 4 teams. But only a 12 point win v South Carolina? Come on, man. Not to take anything away from South Carolina or disrespect Spurrier, but a #2 team should have been able to "blow the doors off" a lot harder than that, IMO.

And again, how does Florida maintain a #3 ranking after beating a then 1-2 team by ONLY SEVEN POINTS?!

If you watched the LSU game, they dominated the entire game. The cocks points game in what essentially was garbage time.

I agree about Florida, they did not look as impressive this week.

IMHO, LSU deserves the number 1 over USC. USCs win over Nebbish looks much less impressive than it did a week ago. I'd say at this point a toss up between them and us for 2, and Florida right behind those three.

[SoonerEmpire]

If you watched the LSU game, they dominated the entire game. The cocks points game in what essentially was garbage time.

I watched parts of that game but not the entire game. Perhaps that's why I wasn't as impressed with them. I was continually flipping the channels trying to keep up to date with everything going on. I was mainly watching the slugfest between between Tech and osu. During commercial breaks, I would switch to different games, but I switched to the LSU game the most. Primarily because I was hoping for another upset in this weird season of upsets thus far. But from what I did watch, it seemed that, at times, South Carolina was able to move the ball on LSU's defense pretty good but just couldn't score. Would it be accurate to say that?

[Texas Golfer]

I have no problem with #2 LSU remaining there after a 12 point win over previously #12 South Carolina. I do have a problem with #3 Florida remaining there after beating an unranked Ole Miss team with a losing record by a mere two FGs.

I remember a #10 OU team dropping five places after a 5 point win over an unranked team.

[Ash]

I watched parts of that game but not the entire game. Perhaps that's why I wasn't as impressed with them. I was continually flipping the channels trying to keep up to date with everything going on. I was mainly watching the slugfest between between Tech and osu. During commercial breaks, I would switch to different games, but I switched to the LSU game the most. Primarily because I was hoping for another upset in this weird season of upsets thus far. But from what I did watch, it seemed that, at times, South Carolina was able to move the ball on LSU's defense pretty good but just couldn't score. Would it be accurate to say that?

SC did move the ball on them a little bit, and scored early in the game. But for most of the game, it just never seemed like they posed that much of a threat on offense. Just my impression, but although the score came out somewhat close, the game seemed decided by halftime.

[Ash]

I have no problem with #2 LSU remaining there after a 12 point win over previously #12 South Carolina. I do have a problem with #3 Florida remaining there after beating an unranked Ole Miss team with a losing record by a mere two FGs.

I remember a #10 OU team dropping five places after a 5 point win over an unranked team.

But, but it's the SEC. and even the worst SEC team is gooder than the goodest teams of other conferences. it's still a quality win.

[Texas Golfer]

I watched parts of that game but not the entire game. Perhaps that's why I wasn't as impressed with them. I was continually flipping the channels trying to keep up to date with everything going on. I was mainly watching the slugfest between between Tech and osu. During commercial breaks, I would switch to different games, but I switched to the LSU game the most. Primarily because I was hoping for another upset in this weird season of upsets thus far. But from what I did watch, it seemed that, at times, South Carolina was able to move the ball on LSU's defense pretty good but just couldn't score. Would it be accurate to say that?

That's fairly accurate but you have to remember that South Carolina was the #12 team in the country. LSU's victory was impressive considering everything.

[Texas Golfer]

But, but it's the SEC. and even the worst SEC team is gooder than the goodest teams of other conferences. it's still a quality win.

I disagree about it being a quality win. Ole Miss was 1-2 against non-SEC foes.

[Ash]

I disagree about it being a quality win. Ole Miss was 1-2 against non-SEC foes.

Obviously, someone has their sarcasm radar turned off.

[Texas Golfer]

But, but it's the SEC. and even the worst SEC team is gooder than the goodest teams of other conferences. it's still a quality win.

I got the sarcasm about "even the worst SEC team is gooder than the goodest teams of other conferences" but I missed the sarcasm about the "quality win".

[Ash]

I got the sarcasm about "even the worst SEC team is gooder than the goodest teams of other conferences" but I missed the sarcasm about the "quality win".

Maybe I should've put in the smilies, but I figured it was obvious the whole thing was ;) :twinkies:

[snp]

Are you going to overlook UF's spanking of Tennesse as well?

[Texas Golfer]

Are you going to overlook UF's spanking of Tennesse as well?

I'm not overlooking Florida's win over a Tennessee team that isn't even in the Top 35.

[snp]

Tennesse has played 2 top-6 teams, of course they won't be ranked. Even if it is a Fulmer led squad, they'd beat any of our ooc opponents, imo.

And it's way too early to worry being slighted 1 spot in the polls. Especially since the Harris poll (which matters) has us above Florida, the defending champs. If we were fresh off a NC, we'd probably be up in arms over this.

[The Maestro]

It will all shake itself out. But I am suddenly more interested in LSU's game at Kentucky then I was when the season started.

Maybe Early Doucette is that great, but LSU's running backs are very average...I'd be more than happy to put our defense against their offense. As far as our offense against their defense, I think we have enough talent to at least score 20 on them.

The SEC is loaded...I think LSU and Florida are going to fall along the way.

[Texas Golfer]

Tennesse has played 2 top-6 teams, of course they won't be ranked. Even if it is a Fulmer led squad, they'd beat any of our ooc opponents, imo.

And it's way too early to worry being slighted 1 spot in the polls. Especially since the Harris poll (which matters) has us above Florida, the defending champs. If we were fresh off a NC, we'd probably be up in arms over this.

I'm not particularly concerned with the polls. It's still early in the season.

[sooneron]

How in hades does atm get ANY votes? Further proof that no one watches the games. They looked clueless against scUM.

[josh09]

Im surprised miami didnt get in....

but #3 again, sweet!

[josh09]

By the way, I also noticed how closely Michigan and A&M are in rankings.

And Michigan would be the stuffing out of A&M.

Isnt that just funny?

[Crucifax Autumn]

I'm gonna be pulling for some strange teams this coming Saturday.

[stoopified]

I know that it really doesn't matter right now, but why in God's Green Earth is UF ranked ahead of us in the Coaches' Poll? I'm not much into conspiracy theories, but I do know that Drunkenberger does have a vote. Could that have a factor?
I HAVEVE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR SOMETIME.Last year in the final coaches poll (which was published)Drunkenberger had us ranked #18 going into the Fiesta Bowl,would not surprise me if he had us rated lower before the published vote.I also would not be surprised in the least if he has us unranked or near the bottom of the TOP 25 this year.
IMHO Drunkenberger has ZERO credibility and an axe to grind.

[soonerhubs]

I HAVEVE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR SOMETIME.Last year in the final coaches poll (which was published)Drunkenberger had us ranked #18 going into the Fiesta Bowl,would not surprise me if he had us rated lower before the published vote.I also would not be surprised in the least if he has us unranked or near the bottom of the TOP 25 this year.
IMHO Drunkenberger has ZERO credibility and an axe to grind.
I was shocked by how off the mark his rank was versus everyone else's. It goes to show you how "objective" the poll really is.

[snp]

A lot of coaches don't fill out their own polls, they leave it to the SID or someone else.